kylehyde Posted November 21, 2013 Posted November 21, 2013 I don't think she said anything like that... I thought I read somewhere here that she used the Tsukiyomi Unit to protect Amaterasu from Takemikazuchi. Because so long as Amaterasu is ok, the world can be restored. Now I don't know if that's her end game. I feel like Rachel is still a mystery and we still don't know what the hell she really wants. And what Ragna's role in her plans are. She needs him to die that's for certain. Because she is one who suggested the idea to Tsubaki, and we all know Tsubaki wants Ragna's blood. Probably the last person you want to give the go ahead to kill Ragna to.
Alpha to Omega Posted November 21, 2013 Posted November 21, 2013 I don't think she said anything like that... According to Zedar's translation she did: I tried to translate the dialog in the end between Izanami and Rachel: Izanami: Master unit Amaterasu, How many times do you have to repeat this stupid dream(nightmare) until you are satisfied... It's to bad that your destruction could not be made. The entertainment is over. Lets start the ceremony. Full fill your true roll ”Giant” The ”sin” that man created... make the giant that should be avoided into a yorishiro, and collect the old seithr(world), an become a vessel that give birth to the new seithr(world), Embryo(embryo of azure) Destructionday became God Return. Only the ”qualified ones” that was chosen by the Azure may stay. ”Tsukiyomi”, It is time for the decision. Full fill your roll. Rachel: Tsukiyomi Unit. Protect Master Unit. Izanami: Is that your decision Rachel: Isn't if obvious? As long as ”she” remains. The world can be reconstructed from her memories. To save ”her”, is the only left ”hope” for ”us” in this mad world. Izanami: Haven't given up even tough it have been repeated for so many times. Rachel: Even tough it is so boring and so very ugly, I ”love” this world. Izanami: An ”existence” like you to talking about ”love”... I cant even find the words to say. Well than, you can seek it as well, The embryo, the thing that give birth to Azure, The true Blazblue! Rachel: Don't worry, I will defeat you and get hold of it, Meiou Izanami. Izanami: Even I cant touch Amaterasu who is protected by Tsukiyomi. However if all the ”Qualified ones” disappears, It is my ”victory”. The Black Beast will consume all, and the world will return to nothingness. That is my desire, ”Nothingness” that will end all. Rachel Alucard, I will for sure give you ”death” Rachel: And i will give you ”life” as a present. And you will end. Izanami: Is that so, I look forward to it. Well then, lets start the demise.
Shinhwa Posted November 21, 2013 Posted November 21, 2013 I thought I read somewhere here that she used the Tsukiyomi Unit to protect Amaterasu from Takemikazuchi. Because so long as Amaterasu is ok, the world can be restored. Now I don't know if that's her end game. I feel like Rachel is still a mystery and we still don't know what the hell she really wants. And what Ragna's role in her plans are. She needs him to die that's for certain. Because she is one who suggested the idea to Tsubaki, and we all know Tsubaki wants Ragna's blood. Probably the last person you want to give the go ahead to kill Ragna to. I seriously don't get her. In CS she told Ragna he is needed in this world to break the law of the current world and such. Now she needs him to die? Really wut the hell... According to Zedar's translation she did: Oh that part. I didn't really pay attention to the part after she protected Amaterasu with Tsukuyomi and had a talk with Izanami, so I forgot. My bad.
Shinhwa Posted November 21, 2013 Posted November 21, 2013 I think she wants him to die as a mercy kill sort of thing, before he's completely consumed by whatever is inside of him. You know, I hate how we can't really speculate in this thread and it's separated but that's the rule here... Anyhow, Noel seems to act more like Saya during CP more than before no matter how much I see. Even the lost memory that Nu had gotten access to after she synchronized with Noel explained that Noel did not want to fuse with the man who ripped apart her family and peace. For Nu, the memories that she had gotten from Saya was really vague, but for Noel she seems to have had way more except majority of them were lost after.
Zedar90 Posted November 21, 2013 Posted November 21, 2013 (edited) So wait, destroying all the seithr started killing people off for reasons I don't understand yet, and Izanami sends Ragna out to start making more seithr? What the hell did Bang accomplish then, besides AOE killing most of the world with his anti-seithr nail punch of doom? They aren't dying because of the Lynch pin, they are becoming seithr because the DestructionDay(滅日, horobi) have started and the world is getting Formatted(初期化, shokika). The souls are returning to the "source of the Azure"(蒼の根源, ao no kongen) or at least they are supposed to. The DestructionDay isn't like it is supposed to be like this time, since the "Qualifed Ones" aren't even supposed to exist. Edited November 21, 2013 by Zedar90
cr1ms0n Posted November 22, 2013 Posted November 22, 2013 When does Rachel say her quote from the Kagura and Terumi trailer?
Shinhwa Posted November 22, 2013 Posted November 22, 2013 So am I correct that Izayoi and Mu-12 might be the only ones who can actually kill Izanami due to their ability's nature or is that false?
Zedar90 Posted November 22, 2013 Posted November 22, 2013 (edited) So am I correct that Izayoi and Mu-12 might be the only ones who can actually kill Izanami due to their ability's nature or is that false? Nothing can Kill Izanami as far what is told. Mu-12 is called god killer because she is immune to the power of god, "Phenomenon Intervention" and can find Amaterasu in the boundary. The Immortal Breaker can kill observer because it forces the observer to recognize themselves as dead. Edited November 22, 2013 by Zedar90
BlackYakuzu94 Posted November 22, 2013 Posted November 22, 2013 I didn't know Mu was immune to phenomenon intervention, I thought that was something exclusive to the Power of Order.
Zedar90 Posted November 22, 2013 Posted November 22, 2013 I didn't know Mu was immune to phenomenon intervention, I thought that was something exclusive to the Power of Order. Celica and everyone around her that heavily interacts with her is immune to phenomenon Intervention since she isn't a observing target for the system. Rachel is Immune to phenomenon Intervention from other observers, but I dodn't know if that includes Amaterasu's. I'm sure I read somewhere that all Murakumo Unit's are immune to Phenomenon Intervention but can't remember where so I might be wrong. But I do know that Kusanagi was called god slaying sword in XBLAZE because of the fact that it was immune to Phenomenon Intervention.
Shinhwa Posted November 22, 2013 Posted November 22, 2013 I don't know, I mean when Noel transforms into Mu-12, Izanami said "Ohh~ God slayer Kusanagi eh? Then I should become serious as well...", and I thought Izanami was Goddess of Death in the first place. Also to add to that, it seems Celica can also affect Izanami negatively as well?
Zedar90 Posted November 22, 2013 Posted November 22, 2013 I don't know, I mean when Noel transforms into Mu-12, Izanami said "Ohh~ God slayer Kusanagi eh? Then I should become serious as well...", and I thought Izanami was Goddess of Death in the first place. Also to add to that, it seems Celica can also affect Izanami negatively as well? Izanami didn't sound on bit worried, It was more like she mocked Noel for using Murakumo. The only one that could give Izanami problem would be Tao, since Tao could sense Izanami while even Rachel couldn't.
heavymetalmixer Posted November 22, 2013 Posted November 22, 2013 Izanami didn't sound on bit worried, It was more like she mocked Noel for using Murakumo. The only one that could give Izanami problem would be Tao, since Tao could sense Izanami while even Rachel couldn't. Wait a minute, Tao?!
Shinhwa Posted November 22, 2013 Posted November 22, 2013 Wait a minute, Tao?! Yes. Episode 1 of Chronophantasma showed that Tao was able to sense Izanami (except her explanation about the feeling when she sensed Izanami did not make any sense lol)
Shinhwa Posted November 22, 2013 Posted November 22, 2013 Ragna in Episode 8 after his Blazblue, eye and right arm are sealed is so crazy. ANGER MANAGEMENT XD
Diveman Posted November 22, 2013 Posted November 22, 2013 What did Amane do during story mode? anything significant?
Zedar90 Posted November 22, 2013 Posted November 22, 2013 What did Amane do during story mode? anything significant? The biggest thing Amane did was to tell Valkenhayn where Rachel was after she got weaker, and tell Bullet she should take the action that comes first in her mind when she is in hesitation. Other then that, Only saying cryptic things. Best guess is that he is trying to get the girl inside the Amaterasu Unit out of it. He doesn't like Hikikomoris after all and was called Uzume(dance god) by Rachel.
Shinhwa Posted November 22, 2013 Posted November 22, 2013 Just to reconfirm, Amane is also another "bystander" like Rachel and also has some sort of power that relates to time right? (well his Astral Finish pretty much is self explanatory for that... but) And I read that he is going to succeed Rachel's role since she had to use Tsukuyomi Unit to protect Amaterasu, where she lost her position as a Bystander.
Zedar90 Posted November 22, 2013 Posted November 22, 2013 Just to reconfirm, Amane is also another "bystander" like Rachel and also has some sort of power that relates to time right? (well his Astral Finish pretty much is self explanatory for that... but) And I read that he is going to succeed Rachel's role since she had to use Tsukuyomi Unit to protect Amaterasu, where she lost her position as a Bystander. She didn't lose her power for using the Tsukuyomi, it was because she got to "involved". And so in the end she decided to stop being an "Bystander" and got up on the "stage" and became an "actor". It's not 100% confirmed to be a Bystander(傍観者) but he used the word spectate(傍観) which got a reaction from Rachel. According to Izanami this is what Rachel did: Izanami: ... Rachel Alucard... so she made a heavy intervention to the phenomenon. What a foolish thing to do. This is... She made a "One who should exist" to her own observing target and sent him into the past, and made the phenomenon and time loop fixed. However... With this all "phenomenon" is decided, and the world have started walking towards "DestructionDay".
Shinhwa Posted November 22, 2013 Posted November 22, 2013 No matter how much I look at it, Celica is like the total heroine of CP lol
Koopa_Klawz Posted November 22, 2013 Posted November 22, 2013 No matter how much I look at it, Celica is like the total heroine of CP lol I expect many badass things to happen in story mode. Instead, all I got was fucking Celica. -_-
Shinhwa Posted November 22, 2013 Posted November 22, 2013 I expect many badass things to happen in story mode. Instead, all I got was fucking Celica. -_- No. Badass stuff DID happen in the story mode. It focused on Noel's evolution, accepting Mu-12 as herself. Ragna got more character development compared to CT and CS. Also, one of the factors that helped Ragna move onto a new stage was Celica.
Shinhwa Posted November 22, 2013 Posted November 22, 2013 I don't think Azrael ever appeared again after he was captured after the fight between Kagura and Azrael was he?
Kriegdrache Posted November 22, 2013 Posted November 22, 2013 Man, the final episode was so good. Hakumen doing what he did was so rad.
Shinhwa Posted November 22, 2013 Posted November 22, 2013 Man, the final episode was so good. Hakumen doing what he did was so rad. You mean killing Terumi? o3o
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