[CP] Ragna Gameplay Discussion

[MashThat5A]

TK GH > 5A/2A is gone. I don't know about CH GH

[Gramas]

I have seen ch gh 5b not connecting :/ cant remember the video

[WolfCrimson]

So, have any interesting/good Ragna players showed up lately? I'm noticing most ragna's in vids/streams seem subpar (even though it's just been a bit more than a week), they're still using that shitty normal jD in combos, and D ID > Straight early in corner combos.

[STenSatsu]

The shadow vs kaqn matches are pretty good. He was doing a lot more sj.c instead of the j.d>dj.d.

[Sadeyo]

So, have any interesting/good Ragna players showed up lately? I'm noticing most ragna's in vids/streams seem subpar (even though it's just been a bit more than a week), they're still using that shitty normal jD in combos, and D ID > Straight early in corner combos.

It's still too soon to be requesting any good Ragna matches since there's no base but only instinct to work off of. In the end everyone is going to keep requesting kaqn, I watched a few other Ragna videos and nothing too solid, keep on waiting or give it at least a month.

[Fistmaster049]

I've seen a few matches with Yutta, always fun to watch

[SolheartStud]

@ 19:25 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92xnA2N1UQs&feature=youtu.be

Wait...Does CS travel full screen now or was that a result of Relius' hitbox? I know CS travels far but maybe now it travels to the end of the screen?

[KayEff]

it always travelled that certain distance, and it seemed to hit relius at the tip of the sword, so it may be fullscreen depending on the hitbox

[Tong]

Oh, look at that sweet stagger...

[Sadeyo]

@ 19:25 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92xnA2N1UQs&feature=youtu.be

Wait...Does CS travel full screen now or was that a result of Relius' hitbox? I know CS travels far but maybe now it travels to the end of the screen?

I still doubt that it's full screen but I'll admit that it may have gotten an extension to the sword. Koji has a nice Ragna to keep up with.

[LuminAbyss]

I hope it's invuln got better man. Maybe it'll be a better anti-projectile/full screen punish tool? A man can dream.

[Fluck]

If you guys didn't watch Kirisame's matches, or plan to watch them in the future, you're fucking up. That guy is GODLIKE.

[xlolxlolx]

it always travelled that certain distance, and it seemed to hit relius at the tip of the sword, so it may be fullscreen depending on the hitbox

dirty furion picker

[ADS627]

I hope it's invuln got better man. Maybe it'll be a better anti-projectile/full screen punish tool? A man can dream.

might be able to cancel it with OD which could lead to some neat combo movie stuff.

[KayEff]

i'm fairly sure you can't cancel distortions into OD. could be wrong, but i haven't seen anyone do it yet.

[Moy_X7]

From what we've seen, you can only OD cancel moves that can be special canceled. So you can't OD cancel specials or DDs.

[TITANIUM BEAST!!!]

If you guys didn't watch Kirisame's matches, or plan to watch them in the future, you're fucking up. That guy is GODLIKE.

Links? Can't find these.

[Fluck]

They're not up on Youtube yet, but I'm sure they'll be uploaded eventually. In the mean time I think you can try the stream archive?

[TITANIUM BEAST!!!]

Which stream? There's a couple in the video thread.

[ADS627]

aww sorta guessed that was the case but still had some hope. oh well.

kirisame @ 3:02:00~ http://www.twitch.tv/st1ckbug/b/344791334 and probably throughout the stream

[LuminAbyss]

From what we've seen, you can only OD cancel moves that can be special canceled. So you can't OD cancel specials or DDs.

Oooh, so that's how it works.

In that case, 22C would be the only special Ragna can OD Cancel. Which will still be pretty godlike.

[skd]

i remember seeing a change in one of the old loketests that GH was neutral or + on block or something silly, is it back to punishable?

[Fistmaster049]

is it me or does 6D into BS look like it has potential?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=HLxHR1l1vc4#t=133s

[Tong]

i remember seeing a change in one of the old loketests that GH was neutral or + on block or something silly, is it back to punishable?

Not on loketest, but Hazama couldn't quite punish Keri Age with 2A.

[WolfCrimson]

i remember seeing a change in one of the old loketests that GH was neutral or + on block or something silly, is it back to punishable?

Well, according to the first post, it's even more unsafe now, but somehow I doubt it. In the vids I see of Ragna getting his GH blocked, they don't really punish it. I could be wrong though.

EDIT: OK just saw Nu's 2B hit Ragna after GH was blocked, but it wasn't CH. Maybe the Ragna didn't block?

EDIT 2: OK just realised that if GH is unsafe on block, then Ragna's overhead options are complete shit. 6B was nerfed because of no C follow-ups, so damage off of 6B isn't good unless rapid. GH, while unsafe on block, has better follow-up options than 6B, but yeah unsafelol. BS is just BS. Slow-ass overhead that can be blocked really easily, and on normal hit cannot be followed up.

But that's OK, that means that Ragna is now the zoner character he was supposed to be

Edited December 4, 2012 by WolfCrimson