excelence Posted June 23, 2008 Posted June 23, 2008 well then i wouldn't say the 2hs was actualy a bad thing in that vid (;^_^)a... i believe it's just a reflex and wrong guess in anticipating his option, if u guessing right... it'll be a nice ch combos, looking at that Jo dropping his combos after 6p ch on your 2hs is quite funny lol
woki Posted July 1, 2008 Posted July 1, 2008 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4hNGUYl-gto I wonder what happened at the end of the vid...
excelence Posted July 2, 2008 Posted July 2, 2008 Testament do 2hs> super freeze air pike hit> overdrives connect ?? but i didn't see any counter on that vid (>_>)
Saros Posted July 2, 2008 Posted July 2, 2008 Little known fact, the fuzzy guard actually doesn't work. I didn't realize this until I played AC but one of the main reasons why I gave up on those air spike pressure loops is that a popped bubble does not necessarily keep the opponent in fuzzy guard. All the opponent has to do is block high on your j.K, then immediately switch to low block against the bubble. Now he is crouching, and your 421S will whiff, and your opponent will get a free combo/throw. Eh? What if you used the bubble as a meaty? As in, whiff the jK. Would that work?
bizarro Posted July 2, 2008 Posted July 2, 2008 Yeah, if you whiff the j.K and your opponent blocked high on the bubble, then it works 100%
Stag.S Posted July 4, 2008 Posted July 4, 2008 Posted this pretty late, cause I wasn't 100% sure it was me at first haha. Was labelled as many other people, but it's none of their colours and I remember playing a blue PO, but I know I lost all my tourney matches so it's probably randomly recorded. http://youtube.com/watch?v=7VeC2g2JQHU This was quite awhile ago, the general consensus in the local group is that I've improved a lot, but in that video I can see a lot of mistakes I made. I tend to tech without FD, I'm lucky he didn't take advantage of it.
excelence Posted July 4, 2008 Posted July 4, 2008 it's good... better than my Dizzy lol, at first i thought you're crazy puting mid air pressure on that pot, but knowing when to back off on your pressure was two thumbs up... on the second match i can see a whiffed 5hs twice... i assume u're trying to summon fish (;^_^)a... if it's an old record i believe u already worked on summoning timming lol
bizarro Posted July 4, 2008 Posted July 4, 2008 Nice video, reminds me of the makoto match I saw on youtube where he keeps doing the airdashes against potemkin, and also because of the color (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GiVAiD07sog). Be careful though, although it seems like this potemkin isn't used to it, people will catch on sooner or later Pretty solid play, can't say much without being picky... maybe get down the timing between fish summons? (2:34) BTW glad you posted your vid, even if it was old, we need more uploads here And also, when I mentioned a few weeks back when I posted those links that we did have more matches recorded, but they weren't uploaded? Well my friend just uploaded another one, he said it takes 6 hours to upload http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ST1m9s-8DW8 Enjoy
excelence Posted July 4, 2008 Posted July 4, 2008 awesome aggro Dizzy XD... i need to work out with my iad j.2s to be able to do cross up games that fast
Zazz Posted July 4, 2008 Posted July 4, 2008 This was quite awhile ago, the general consensus in the local group is that I've improved a lot, but in that video I can see a lot of mistakes I made. I tend to tech without FD, I'm lucky he didn't take advantage of it. i like it whenever someone uses the coffin waking up against slide head lol
Stag.S Posted July 4, 2008 Posted July 4, 2008 Nice video, reminds me of the makoto match I saw on youtube where he keeps doing the airdashes against potemkin, and also because of the color (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GiVAiD07sog). Be careful though, although it seems like this potemkin isn't used to it, people will catch on sooner or later Pretty solid play, can't say much without being picky... maybe get down the timing between fish summons? (2:34) Ehehe, yeah, I think I only did so well because the PO wasn't used to the aerial pressure. Lately I've been working on the IAD 2S, HS, | c.S HS 236HS, and my FRCs are slowly getting there. I'll have matches of me recorded in about 2 weeks time, after our local tourney. as Yaozzer
Stag.S Posted August 4, 2008 Posted August 4, 2008 So far only one video of me from our "Stampede Sucks" tourney is up, from the Calgary 23 vs Vancouver 23. Calgary got rocked =/ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iDQi6OE35O8 I notice I tend to really crack under pressure for the most part, though there's times in casuals where it's the opposite. That and if I didn't mess up my Dust Combo I might've had a round =.= Commentator was Yaozzer
bizarro Posted August 4, 2008 Posted August 4, 2008 Holy shit, you guys had a 23 v 23? There are actually that many players up in Canada? Daaaaamn... Sucks about potemkin, I know how easy it is for him to turn the tide with one knockdown. Try to condition yourself to watch for his slidehead, and use it as an opportunity to punish him. Use K~K fish summon to bait his flicks. And yes, tourney environment is totally different from casual environment. Don't worry about it though, it should fix over time ...I think...
Stag.S Posted August 4, 2008 Posted August 4, 2008 Haha, it was really like 11v6, multiple characters per person and I was Calgary's Dizzy
zaeris Posted August 4, 2008 Posted August 4, 2008 Yeah, Pot isn't a favourable match up for anyone once you hit the floor. Haven't been posting for a while since its depressing when you feel dizzy is alot weaker compare to the other cast but winning shouldn't be the reason that we play GG using Dizzy, now is it Matches of me getting crushed by pot. CWr5 - Armies - CK (PO) vs Lucia (DI) CWr4 - CK (PO) vs Lucia (DI) CWr3- CK (PO) vs Lucia (DI) but just to be fair, here are matches of me winning, lol. CWr5 - Casuals - CK (PO) vs Lucia (DI) 1/5 CWr5 - Casuals - CK (PO) vs Lucia (DI) 2/5 CWr5 - Casuals - CK (PO) vs Lucia (DI) 3/5 so yeah I understand how you feel Stag.S, I always crack under tourny pressure, about dust combo? I still don't understand them sometime it works sometime it doesn't. P.S thnx javi for uploading the vids
Stag.S Posted August 4, 2008 Posted August 4, 2008 Well Woki actually taught me a pretty basic Dizzy Dust combo that deals about as much damage as the ice spike combo. it's D j.HS when the screen is changing, 214K j.HS | j.K j.S jd.S j.D. I get it all the time in casuals so that people actually burst out of my dusts now instead of taking the hit, but I just failed at it during the match haha. Speaking about dust, I noticed you messed it up in CWr4, while I buffered the input way too fast (read, before my J.HS. Don't ask how..) I noticed you hit PO too early in the Dust with j.HS that's why it didn't work. and zaeris you just reminded me of what one of the local players said to me during a game of Mahjong. I'm new at it so I was drawing tiles before it was his turn, he told me to slow down. I replied that I wanted to win, so he said 'Then stop playing Dizzy!' He still loves saying that to me haha
zaeris Posted August 4, 2008 Posted August 4, 2008 Yeah that could by my issue with timing hitting J.hs too early. I should time my dust combo like I do with millia AD cancel combo. and also the J.D dust set up is that character specific?
excelence Posted August 5, 2008 Posted August 5, 2008 on that, dust combo setup, did you throw the bubble with canceling the 1st j.hs into it, or do the impossible dust? by landing and dashing? tkbubble? ... sry i haven't see the vid, i got problem with streaming here
zaeris Posted August 5, 2008 Posted August 5, 2008 on that, dust combo setup, did you throw the bubble with canceling the 1st j.hs into it, or do the impossible dust? by landing and dashing? tkbubble? ... sry i haven't see the vid, i got problem with streaming here Basic FD break dust combo... into Jhs and k bubble.
bizarro Posted August 5, 2008 Posted August 5, 2008 Yeah, I like using the FD break impossible dust every single time. If they burst after your dust hits, you're j.H will go under their burst (or if they burst right when your dust hits, you'll have time before the FD > j.H to see if they'll burst or not). Also, for most characters who aren't light, an FD > j.H midscreen will give you time to land and use f.S > icespike for a knockdown dust. Otherwise, for the corner, you can do bubble loop dust combos
bizarro Posted August 6, 2008 Posted August 6, 2008 Oh ya stag and zaeris, thanks for posting the vids. Gotta instant block pot's 6H, but I'm sure you already knew that Less airdashing backwards. Not only are you cooling down tension gain, but it also invites your opponent to advance. I also recommend on round start, open with foward jump > j.P. It beats out heatfist as well as potemkin jump > j.P. As of yet have never been punished by a pot with this opener. [EDIT: good thing they don't know about delayed heatfist :p] I saw some cool stuff in those matches, keep doing that hot Dizzy dominatrix lovin'
bizarro Posted August 6, 2008 Posted August 6, 2008 Haven't been posting for a while since its depressing when you feel dizzy is alot weaker compare to the other cast but winning shouldn't be the reason that we play GG using Dizzy, now is it Endure it comrade!! But hey, Dizzy imo got huge potential. She may be weak but she still has a huge arsenal of power. It's probably the way the designers wanted Dizzy to be. Her defense is noticeably weak, so try learning slashback timings on obvious moves (such as venom's Dubious Curve, or 6P > 6H combo, or most character's 6H for that matter. Especially useful against air dash-ins, where they usually do 2-4 hit lockdown strings). Learn the slashback, and you've just become a jedi. Use the slashback.
stinkymonz Posted August 6, 2008 Posted August 6, 2008 If the Pot is expecting it, he can just wait and do nothing and heat you after the j.P recovers. Case in point, SBO arcade qualifer vids of H.H's team vs. some Pot idunnohisname. I'm trying to find the link the Video Posting thread but I can't seem to find it. :/
bizarro Posted August 6, 2008 Posted August 6, 2008 Oh ya forgot to thank you for pointing that out, haven't seen it but sounds like a reasonable counter.
Killerwatt Posted August 6, 2008 Posted August 6, 2008 It's funny that you guys are talking about Dizzy being weak; I got a friend of mine mad at me because he thinks Dizzy's mid-range game is bullshit (gatling combos into untechable Icespike). I know that she can't take a hit, but against my friends I do pretty well with her. And AC is the first time I'm taking her up as my second main. What do you guys think? Is untechable Icespike fair? Or should I stop using it so much as a combo finisher?
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