Sadeyo Posted June 26, 2010 Posted June 26, 2010 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tSvcN2Z95_0 I make an awesome Noel if I ever decided to practice with her again. She's not as easy as she looks. That's the major problem. I don't know which part is A as starter to make it towards B....Do I mash drive? Been a Ragna and Rachel player for the longest and Ragna is still improving but my Rachel is at a wall and it's odd that she hasn't surpassed it. So I was looking into a new sub and Noel as my starter may be worth picking up again. (Upload was a failure so I have to change the setting to match my old uploads. Can't waste the 720 output.)
DC Posted June 26, 2010 Posted June 26, 2010 Yes you mash drive, learn how to mixup without mashing overhead every blockstring, that only works online, stop pink grabbing. Learn the combos in training mode.
Sadeyo Posted June 26, 2010 Posted June 26, 2010 I only did one pink grab D: Everyone can eat overheads online or offline. Just depends how well someone defends or if anyone can notice a pattern. Don't get me wrong. Not being rude here but I would like to practice with her again. That was third fight with her for the night since the day I started. In the end I will practice with her more unless someone else becomes more appealing. I look forward to more advice.
DC Posted June 27, 2010 Posted June 27, 2010 One too many. There's a difference between mixup and mashing overhead every chance you get. You have less time to react to overheads online, it doesn't work offline against people who aren't idiots, especially Noel's slow ass overhead.
mooyang90 Posted June 27, 2010 Posted June 27, 2010 Your Noel is godlike man. Teach me how to play Noel. Also teach me how to make the combo counter go transparent, that looks badass.
Nas Posted July 6, 2010 Posted July 6, 2010 yo try saying that to a really good player ( i.e Lord Knight that i get play with on a daily basis) on how slow Noel overheads are.. i maybe get like one a match... if that... and noel is very linear, so your it's not like you have like tons of tools to work with...you don't have safe stuff that you can bust out over and over ( i.e Noel 5A in CT), Noel vs any of the top 5 in this game is gonna be such uphill battles. pretty much to play noel you have to have very good yomi (no lie, like we talking like breaking down the whole character and player) and captialize on open gaps that people give you.. cuse it's not that often that you get chances with noel against any good player... and you don't have safe shit you can abuse till they crack... you have to expose gaps and take risks Noel is Take Risks or Die imo.. which i like neways sorry if it sounds basic but it's true ON TOPIC: so i take they haven't been any noel vids lately.. since i heard R-1 R.I.P, im hoping LIME didn't suffer the same fate i.e quit/change character
Mizzet Posted July 6, 2010 Posted July 6, 2010 R-1's still playing Noel if his D-card on PSN isn't lying, though he's subbing Bang it seems LOL.
Ichipoo Posted July 6, 2010 Posted July 6, 2010 R-1 plays BB online? Anyway I find it hard that players who frequently play fighting games in the arcades, especially well known players, play it online at home since they can just play at their arcade which is a better setting, I dunno that's just me. And wow, Bang? Well if you can't beat 'em, you sub 'em? XD
Aginor Posted July 6, 2010 Posted July 6, 2010 Very true. Noel is like a bag of gimmicks. Like you can't just rely on one thing otherwise you'll lose. Oh yea....once you get that hit, you have to make sure you don't drop your combo either. Though the only thing really going for Noel nowadays is damage. Nas, there hasn't really been any noel vids. I think Gucci switched to Arakune. I saw in that SBO thread that he qualified with Arakune if it's the same Gucci I think it is. But yea....
WayINside Posted July 6, 2010 Posted July 6, 2010 not only he qualifiled with arakuna, the other player in his team play noel, the shame...
ItzxJustxNano Posted July 6, 2010 Posted July 6, 2010 Noel VS Rachel Check it out? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=05XX9UoA71M
Mizzet Posted July 6, 2010 Posted July 6, 2010 R-1 plays BB online? There a R-1_ryuhua or something at the top of the Noel leaderboards, 75%ish win ratio, I figure it's probably him. Yeah, his Bang has a 92% win ratio lol.
Halcyone3 Posted July 6, 2010 Posted July 6, 2010 There a R-1_ryuhua or something at the top of the Noel leaderboards, 75%ish win ratio, I figure it's probably him. Yeah, his Bang has a 92% win ratio lol. he was in CT too, i remember the name...... and the masive win%
Mizzet Posted July 7, 2010 Posted July 7, 2010 0:28 of http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rhIuuyD1mpQ j.4d has invincibility frames on startup? Noel seemed to dodge Mu's ginormous j.c.
DC Posted July 7, 2010 Posted July 7, 2010 MORE IMPORTANTLY did 5d just render her DP completely useless? Hell yeah. Also I see drive spamming Noels are going to be even more rampant on XBL.
Mizzet Posted July 7, 2010 Posted July 7, 2010 Yeah that Noel was pretty good at 5d'ing through Mu's dp, 3 times in total lol.
Nas Posted July 7, 2010 Posted July 7, 2010 0:28 of http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rhIuuyD1mpQ j.4d has invincibility frames on startup? Noel seemed to dodge Mu's ginormous j.c. yes j4d has invul on startup.. i think it lasts until you land... iirc
Mizzet Posted July 7, 2010 Posted July 7, 2010 Hm until you land? That seems a little excessive, but I don't know myself, never had anyone try to hit me out of the air while j.4d'ing (they just wait till I land LOL j.4d). I'll test it out later. Might be useful for air-to-air situations then, but I'm thinking even if you use it to dodge something, both of you will land and your opponent will have recovered already - might take out a primer I guess.
archling Posted July 7, 2010 Posted July 7, 2010 yeah.. j.4d is definitely punishable. Lots of things to do. They can wait for you to land then hit you, or simply just grab. Even if it was air to air, they can land and grab or fall and hit you.
mooyang90 Posted July 7, 2010 Posted July 7, 2010 The minute your feet touch the ground from j. 4d you will be eating shit. You better have trained your opponent to block and not mash if you want to use it that bad. R-1 having a 75% ratio doesn't surprise me. Noel is a different beast online with the lag factor.
Nas Posted July 8, 2010 Posted July 8, 2010 i would imagine it would have that much invul in the air.. cuse it's terrible when you land it comes out so slow... but i'm most certain that it has a shit ton of invul on startup and for good amount of time... but how long i dunno... i do use it that much cuse it's ass
Halcyone3 Posted July 8, 2010 Posted July 8, 2010 R-1 having a 75% ratio doesn't surprise me. Noel is a different beast online with the lag factor. that online R-1 had over 90% on CT, around 98 even if i remember right. it dropped from "nigh undefeatable thing" to "looses from time to time". Seems like the lag factor can't help a character that was just screwed over too badly =x as for j.4D invincibility, can't some1 with console test it? a couple test runs on training mode vs a character with a real qick j.A should give a pretty good idea
Mizzet Posted July 8, 2010 Posted July 8, 2010 It seems it has invulnerability, I went and tested it, perhaps someone else can double confirm. Doesn't really matter though because j.4d is still crap. Lolol perhaps if one day you get caught in the air without barrier and Jin is about to ice arrow super you, you can blow his mind by dodging it with j.4d.
FunkyP Posted July 8, 2010 Posted July 8, 2010 lol, yea i like the discussion on j.4d and its invincibility when most of us know first hand that its garbage and we'll rarely use it.
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