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so assuming they block hotaru you land and hit 5D and it kills their 5/2A 6f max 5f min this has to mean hotaru is at least +2-3. if 5D has 5f start up he has to be at the advantage to land then hit 5D. if he IBs it its now at minus 1. but if his 2A hits too that has to be minus 2. IB reduces 3 frames of block stun so hotaru must be +1
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when god gets his command grab. you'll all see. YOU WILL ALL SEE. I CAN LAUGH AT YOU BEFORE YOU CAN LAUGHT AT ME! BECAUSE YOUR PENNYS-
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yea-NO. i want a command grab as fast as hazamas or tagers, not a 50f start up. -GIMME MAH COMMAND GRAB
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are your pressing 2A as soon as you land or mashing the 2A? same with hazama are you pressing it as soon as you IB? theres still some delay. try tapping it as soon as he stops grabbing the hat.
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why cant i have a command grab? why wont they give god a command grab. the hells wrong with the creators? -haters.
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possibility tk tsubaki, is +2-3 hotaru iirc was +2 from a discussion awhile ago.
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you all suck, i get viruses almost everyday and i get rid of them 10 minutes or less on windows. also some anti virus programs actually install viruses into your computer. also windows may send you a virus as well. i had the FBI virus, browser hijacker like 6-8 times, hundreds of trojans, malware, adware, something called moboGhv (slows your comp to hell). you are all soft.
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ggs to me gracing shyns room with gods (hakumens) presence. shoutouts to Lieutenant, i dont like getting close to ragna bad shit happens. shoutouts to IB drive saving my life. ggs shin its been forever. ggs to p4uplayer, ggs to uh...that really good carl player, ggs mucky i had to run it back then lose, so gods vengence struck you down a second time. ggs all AND BE GREATFUL FOR MY BEING THERE.
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drop it drop it drop it drop it drop it drop it drop it drop it drop it drop it drop it drop it drop it drop it drop it drop it drop it drop it drop it drop it drop it drop it drop it drop it drop it drop it drop it drop it drop it drop it drop it drop it drop it drop it drop it drop it drop it drop it drop it drop it drop it drop it drop it drop it drop it drop it drop it drop it drop it ggs to me today! landed my corner reversal combo like a baws. and FFXI gettin so dull.
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you can lol ive had that virus 6 times...google, youtube and just typing in a web adress would get me sent to other much worse sites. you can get rid of browser hijacks. it has to be done in safe mode though
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its better to just kishuu-gurren/renka/3C. 6D can work if they are at max range and your other options wont reward you much. 6D should work vs B/C itsuu.
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most smart litchis wont do that. its too much of a dumb risk to even factor into intelligence. its reactable yes but that requires you to sit there and wait for her to do it, when at the start of the match (again its playstyle dependant) to many things could happen at once, that can stop you from conditioning yourself to wait for a itsuu. usually backdashes, jump attacks, iads etc. now if you know she'll do it go ahead and kill her for it, but vs someone with a smig of intellect, i doubt youd ever see that often, its too much of a risk. now in the event that shes does itsuu, kill her for it, murder her for being dumb.
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this is going to get complicated but what is it doing exactly? i get quite a few viruses frequently and i can get rid of them without virus blockers (they are all shitty anyway) explain what all it does and i can try to walk you through it, oh also tell me what pc you are using.
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its a weird thing but oh well. but to be honest for a starting haku the best idea would be to make some space. this matchup takes time to get used to and the player themself as well. 3C is a viable tool vs someone who rushes but vs someone who fishes and turtles as hard as you it can mean a serious punishment.
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[CP] Litchi Faye Ling - Gameplay Discussion (Read first post!)
psycofang2 replied to Lord Knight's topic in Archive
not really no, the rule is as long as the attack recovers before his grab comes out or they are out of range (despite being right next to him) it will miss or get blocked. an Azreal player abused this mid match, his 6C cannot be 5D'd by hakumen. the only drive thats a sure fire grab is JD since it has true hitstop capabilities. 6D used to be used for killing anything with invicibility since idk the specifics but it was the only drive that could. now it cant. 5D has an autoguard + catch but doesnt trap you in hitstop as hard as people think. 2Ds the same just faster and has longer reach. TL;DR: hakumens drives not a super duper catch you move anymore, it now has an even more complicated formula for escaping the catch which is speed of the attack- recovery of the attack-trajectory of the attack-vs specific Zanshin. tager escaped 6D despite being right in its range by simply being in the air. -
its -4 iirc, problem is litchis 6B and 3C can reach you off a blocked or IBed at haku 3Cs max range. it CAN reach her at the start of the round but this now depends on if she uses itsuu for the CH, if not you are allowing her to get in. unless this player just doesnt know what blocking is, theres also the possibilty that she will jump. im talking from experience, this is not fun.
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i think he ment off mid screen blocked itsuu. 3C at the start of the round is pretty dangerous. the recovery on its pretty bad so you better know the player before attempting it.
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most litchis dont know what they are doing. they are at a subpar level where they use there tools as a means with no end or proper planning. thats why alot of players with alot of characters do things at an unoptimal range or situation. now when this person ends up fighting a good litchi itll come down to another answer for another time. also itsuu block kishuu 3C can still kill itsuu even at max comboable range from litchi.
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isnt litchis 5A STILL +3? remember when hakus was +6 and still whiffed on crouchers. why cant i have my cake and eat it too? -big brother always keepin a god down man.
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theres lot of steps to approaching this matchup depending on your playstyle. litchis ground game is something to be respected as she has greater (and safer) range than you. Its better to play the footsie games until you can either land a hit or make her block. do not go to her unless you are clearly in the advantage, this is not really advised. i fought lord knight enough to learn this the hard way. you have got to be patient, and play the fight slow until you can get in safely. with her staff be mostly aware of her 6B, 3C, itsuu, jC, staff charge, and D staff placements and launches. with her staff you need to respect her, her pokes are longer than yours and almost without risk. refrain from using 4C too much here. vs a staff litchi itll hurt you more than it will help. itsuu can be beaten cleanly with any low, preferably 3C or renka if you can. do not challenge her ground game unless you are at least 5Cs length away. staffless litchi is when you should treat her with a bit less respect and try to get in, this is when shes practically defenseless, if you can get in and establish some presence before the staff returns and she regains her dp, you can put the match in your favor. pressuring her takes some practice and patience as they are prone to mashing DP, its decent with 2 hit boxes, if you manage to bait it block the 1st blow then hop forward and attack her so as the staff doesnt hit you on decent. itsuu A and B can be kishuud after blocking the 1st hit. tick throws, light pressure and conditioning really work well in this match up and is a must stay on the ground more often than in the air as her ja can lock you until you both land. try to create a wall and watch her as well as yourself. defesive wise is where litchi will rule you, instant blocking will save your life. instant block 2a or IB 5A can really save your ass and get you out of the corner or mid screen situations as well as interrupt her pressure and reduce morale, they should be more careful and pressure you less blatanly. i wouldnt advise trying to hit her staff on return to create a void but if you know you can, go ahead. up close your tools of the trade are 2A, 2B, 5A/6A (to stop jump outs), tk tsubaki or renka to get the meta flowing. 1s and overhead with awesome return the others a low with awesome return. donot try to outplay or out speed a litchi, youll lose more often than win. you play the most powerful character in the game, but his power comes from patience. thats all i got for now, im too tired to think straight any further hoped that helps.
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they hit D more than our SSSSSSSSS+++++ teir god hakumen
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once you play a god of all matchups theres no other reasoning needed.
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you are so wrong its almost funny.
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king hakumen the dumb is superior to all of you. i mean look at all that damage. dont even gotta oki or space or properly place anything. just hit them and watch them die. everyone will hate azreal anyway.
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bet you your character cant get 13k off an obviously unblockable spinny copter overhead in 4 hits because hakumen. hahahahaeatiiiiitttttt