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Alright guys, imma have to ask y'all to take all discussion to the general thread. This goes for everyone; from now on this thread is reserved for video posts only. If you wish to discuss a video, copy pasta the video link and post it in the general thread.
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I think the anima ground bounce might have been a change from a loc test that didn't make it to the final cut. Since you mentioned it, I updated Carl's change log in the general discussion, thanks for bringing it up.
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Excerpts from the latest a-cho vid. The Carl in these matches is Itoh, who is currently the #3 Carl in the Dan rankings. This is definitely some of the strongest, if not the strongest CP Carl play we've seen so far. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0G_DGQzbn4M#t=1h05m (Valk v. Itoh (CA)) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0G_DGQzbn4M#t=1h16m45s (Itoh (CA) v. Litchi) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0G_DGQzbn4M#t=1h19m35s (Itoh (CA) v. Litchi) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0G_DGQzbn4M#t=1h23m50s (Itoh (CA) v. Bang) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0G_DGQzbn4M#t=1h34m44s (Valk v. Itoh (CA)) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0G_DGQzbn4M#t=1h56m07s (Haku v. Itoh (CA)) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0G_DGQzbn4M#t=2h01m47s (Bullet v. Itoh (CA)) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0G_DGQzbn4M#t=2h06m32s (Bang v. Itoh (CA)) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0G_DGQzbn4M#t=2h15m34s (Valk v. Itoh (CA)) Rin Rin 24 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3MmPiivsLPA#t=1m27s (Secchan (CA) vs Kanjiru Mango (BA)) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNy0y_vM9nE#t=5m20s (Secchan (CA) v Keba (MU)) Gamechariot http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rBX4GtCzd6c#t=2m42s (Roi (CA) v Yumura (TG)) (Roi gets blown up) And with this update, we finally have at least one video for each of our matchups
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What I like to do in that combo is that I actually put a slight delay on the j.C instead of j.B. Works 100% of the time for me, try it out to see if it works for you.
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[CP] Carl Clover Gameplay Discussion (Changelog in OP)
Psykotik replied to Akira-Shiro's topic in Carl Clover
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDDGhrAgfwk#t=17s Dat reach :O This Carl player has some really interesting tricks. Dunno who he is but he's pretty fun to watch. -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S-4AUqu6MSA#t=4m49s (Carl v K-OMATSU (LI)) Gamechariot http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-4c_d86Zvc#t=1m50s (Kaqn (RA) v Roi (CA)) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6JPnIwOrvYI#t=4m08s (Teruwo (HZ) v Roi (CA)) Hyougo Koube Ranbat http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nOS6tUnKmGQ#t=6m08s (Shounen (NO) v. Kichiku Megane (CA)) Spica Oomiya http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDDGhrAgfwk (Babi (JI) v Carl) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDDGhrAgfwk#t=3m22s (Sonya-chan (AM) v Carl)
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GGs to Foreverwandering.
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Ah, another recruit for the Carl army :D Carl has a lot of variations for his combos to the point where I can't list them all... so I'll drop these links instead. The tutorials are in Japanese but the important stuff is there. Feel free to ask any questions regarding anything in these videos. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_vhVFDqiYZo http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kXI7nNMpLYs http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RCnpWS5H_xw (This one's a bit more advanced) For blockstrings, Carl can do a lot of things but the most basic blockstrings are basically a sequence of alternating attacks from Carl and Nirvana. Some example blockstrings: - 2A, 5A, 2A, 5A, 5B, 6B, 6D, 2A, 5A... - 2A, 5A, 2A, 5A, 5B, 6B, 6D, 6C... - 2A, 5B, 2B, 5C, 236A, 6D, 2A, 5A... I do apologize for the lack of resources though, it's something that's plagued the Carl boards for a while now. Hopefully we can fix this by the time CP comes out on consoles.
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This isn't exactly new but 22B can be used as a throw bait. Mind you, there are a lot of things that it'll lose to but if the opponent falls for it, you can punish their throw whiff for 4-5k. It's not the most stable option but it's something Aigis can use when she's not in Orgia mode or overheat.
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Carl tutorial: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iOjyT0JuYPE
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I'm not completely sure about how the inputs work out for your combos so feel free to correct on this. With that said, there are a few things about your combos that I want to point out. I'm assuming that this would result in a j.2C input for Carl. If that's the case, 623D would come out before j.C since 623D comes out so fast. I'd recommend changing it to 5C, sj.B, j.2C, j.6236CD. IMO, 5C, sj.B, dj.B, j.2C, j.4214CD is easier 5C doesn't work in the combo. Did you mean j.C? Other than that, I think this is pretty good. This is especially helpful for beginner pad Carls.
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Taito Station Machida http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZVUYMyIcaOo#t=2m15s (Carl v Gaoo (BA)) Hyougo Koube Ranbat http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aMhLy7G5QkY#t=22m50s (Q (AZ) v Kichiku Megane (CA)) Kohatsu 2 v 2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUxACwQr42A#t=31m33s (Carl v. Tager) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUxACwQr42A#t=46m50s (Carl v. Litchi)
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UB Setups Midscreen - 2A, 5B, 2B, 5C, 46D, jump, AD, j.ABA, j.2C, j.AA, [j.B+3D] - rising j.A, j.2C~j.214C, 2B, 5B, 5C, 46D, jump, AD, j.ABA, j.2C, j.AA, [j.B+3D] - 2B, 5B, 6B, 6D, 6C, 5AA, 5B, 5C, 46D, jump, AD, j.ABA, j.2C, j.AA, [j.B+3D] - 2B, 5B, 5C, 46D, jump, AD, j.B, j.2C, j.B, j.C, 2B, 5B, 5C, 8D, jump, j.B, j.2C, j.A, [j.C+3D] (character specific) - 2B, 5B, 5C, 6D, j.B/C, 5AA, 2B, 5B, 5C, 46D, jump, AD, j.AAAA, j.2C, j.A, [j.C+3D] - 6C, 5A, 5B, 5C, 6D, jump, j.B, j.2C, j.B, j.C, 5AA, 5B, 5C, 46D, jump, AD, j.ABA, j.2C, j.AA, [j.B+3D] - j.2C~214C, (2B), 5B, 6B, 6D, 6C, 5AA, 5B, 5C, 46D, jump, AD, j.ABA, j.2C, j.AA, [j.B+3D] - j.B/C, 2B, 5B, 5C, 6D, j.B, 5AA, 5B, 5C, 46D, jump, AD, j.AAAA, j.2C, j.AA, [j.B+3D] - AD, j.B, j.C, 2B, 5B, 5C, 6D, j.C, 2AA, 2B, 5B, 5C, 46D, jump, AD, j.AAAA, j.2C, j.AA, [j.B+3D] - 6D, 5A, 5B, 2B, 5C, 46D, jump, AD, j.B, j.2C, j.B, j.C, 2A, 2B, 5B, 5C, 8D, jump, j.B, j.2C, j.AA, [j.B+3D] (character specific) - 46D, 2AA, 5B, 2B, 6B, 6D, 6C, 5AA, 2B, 5B, 5C, 8D, jump, j.B, j.2C, j.AA, [j.B+3D] - 46D, 2AA, 5B, 2B, 5C, 63214D, *move to other side*, j.2C~214C, 2AA, 2B, 5B, 5C, 8D, jump, j.B, j.2C, j.AA, [j.B+3D] (untested) Corner - 2A, 5B, 2B, 5C, 46D, neutral jump, AD, j.ABA, j.2C, j.AA, [j.B+3D] - rising j.A, j.2C~j.214C, 2B, 5B, 5C, 46D, neutral jump, AD, j.ABA, j.2C, j.AA, [j.B+3D] - 2B, 5B, 6B, 6D, 6C, 5AA, 5B, 5C, 46D, neutral jump, AD, j.AAAA, j.2C, j.AA, [j.B+3D] - 2B, 5B, 5C, 46D, neutral jump, j.C, 5A, 5B, 2B, 6B, 6A, rising j.B, 6D, AD, j.ABA, j.2C, j.AA, [j.B+3D] UB followups These assume that your opponent just got hit by the j.B + 3D unblockable. Additional resources (meter and burst/OD) are required for Fermata/OD super enders. - 5A+B, (start charging 6C), 46D, Lv2 6C, 5C, 623D, sj.B, dj.B, j.C, 421D, 5C, j.B, j.2C, j.B, dj.B, j.C, 8D, ender (25 heat required, does not work on Amane) - 5A+B, backdash, 5C, 623D, sj.B, dj.B, j.C, 421D, 5C, j.B, j.C, 46D, 6A, sj.B, j.2C, j.B, dj.B, j.C, 8D, ender (25 heat required) - 5C, sj.B, j.2C, j.B, dj.B, j.C, 46D, j.2C~allecan, sj.B, j.2C, j.B, dj.B, j.C, 6D, 6B, 6A, j.B, j.C Corner followups - j.2C~Allecan, j.2C~Allecan, j.B, j.C, 623]D[,(land), j2.C~Allecan, j.B, j.C, 46]D[, 5C, sj.B, j2.C, j.B, j.B, j.C, 8D, ender - 5A+B, 6B, 6]C[, 623D, 6C (lv2), 421D, 5C, j.B, j.C, 46D, 5C, sj.B, j.2C, 214C, 8D, ender - OD, 5A+B, 6B, 6]C[, 623D, 6C (lv2), 421D, 5C, 46]D[, 5C, sj.B, j.2C, j.B, j.B, j.C, 8D, eder (25 meter + OD required while >40% health)
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[CP] Carl Clover Gameplay Discussion (Changelog in OP)
Psykotik replied to Akira-Shiro's topic in Carl Clover
^That would be Kichiku Megane. IMO the most solid Carl in the CP vids I've seen so far that's not Ryuusei is Nisshi. IIRC, he actually beat Ronitta in some 3v3 tournament. Fun fact: Kichiku Megane is also the name of a BL game. The more you know! -
[CP] Carl Clover Gameplay Discussion (Changelog in OP)
Psykotik replied to Akira-Shiro's topic in Carl Clover
Ryuusei's been playing Jin in tourneys recently, I wonder if that's going to stick... well, there's other good Carls out there that we can watch. Hope we get vids of Kyaku at some point. In other news, the video thread and combo thread has been updated. Any suggestions for the combo thread are appreciated. -
[CP] Carl Clover Gameplay Discussion (Changelog in OP)
Psykotik replied to Akira-Shiro's topic in Carl Clover
8D's been air-(barrier-)blockable since CS2. The cantata nerf isn't a huge problem since 3C now combos into Fermata. Carl's changes are pretty interesting overall. Although he did get a meterless damage nerf, he has a few new things to play with in the form of jump cancelable 5C and his buffed (dash) Allegretto, both of which are useful at neutral. I think Carl will be fine, it's only a matter of time before someone finds something that makes Carl broken again. -
GGs to everyone in my room. Zeron, come to offline casuals dammit :<
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Sure, I'll keep my room open so just join whenever Says the guy who never shows up to casuals :3
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Anyone wanna play right now?
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[CP] Carl Clover Gameplay Discussion (Changelog in OP)
Psykotik replied to Akira-Shiro's topic in Carl Clover
Carl's damage off most hits is relatively low at midscreen without meter. In the corner, he can get better damage but it's nothing too big. Carl needs to go for resets and setups to get damage. That's the Carl v Tager matchup in a nutshell; it might start out in Carl's favor but if Tager gets in, he's done. -
[CP] Carl Clover Gameplay Discussion (Changelog in OP)
Psykotik replied to Akira-Shiro's topic in Carl Clover
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhlBeEot8zk&feature=youtu.be#t=8m55s It seems that La Tenerezza has some potential as oki. 5C + 46D = midscreen oki setup? -
Taito Station 3v3 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWjK0eBWZKo&feature=youtu.be#t=2m48s (Ren (JI) v Shitaka (CA)) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kH6YbJafsn4&feature=youtu.be (Zantetsu (HA) v Nisshi (CA)) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kH6YbJafsn4&feature=youtu.be#t=4m02s (Sosomi-chan (RE) v Nisshi (CA)) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kH6YbJafsn4&feature=youtu.be#t=7m (Hoppu Saitou (PL) v Nisshi (CA)) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rcOTvW3McoQ&feature=youtu.be#t=5m25s (Yoshiki (NU) v Nisshi (CA)) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhlBeEot8zk&feature=youtu.be#t=7m48s (Ronitta (JI) v Nisshi (CA)) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhlBeEot8zk&feature=youtu.be#t=10m30s (Momo (HZ) v Nisshi (CA)) A re-posting of the most recent combo video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJKV-USrX0o
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Mirai Yume Tournament Casuals http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZxBTIDBc8U (Tomoyuki (AR) v U p shu (CA)) Hyougo Koube Random 2v2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1rY5z9JQajQ (Kichiku Megane (CA) v Seioka (TG)) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tlUInLE3rJQ#t=8m20s (Q (AZ) v. Kichiku Megane)) Kohatsu vids http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QkCsSL7G47A#t=10m50s (Carl v. Hazama) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QkCsSL7G47A#t=24m30s (Carl v. Izayoi)
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[CP] Carl Clover Gameplay Discussion (Changelog in OP)
Psykotik replied to Akira-Shiro's topic in Carl Clover
Can't forget colours 1-6 :P http://kurushii.tv/Dustloop/BBCP/Graphics/Carl/BBCP_Carl_Palettes_1-6.png I'm digging the blue color. -
Central Hachiouji vs Circus http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KL66EHAHUWk&feature=youtu.be#t=3m13s (Hama (JI) v. Tsuba (CA)) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KL66EHAHUWk&feature=youtu.be#t=16m52s (Kuma (MA) v. Shitaka (CA)) Casuals http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kbl-112PVCQ#t=89m16s (nao (BU) v. Tsuba (CA)) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kbl-112PVCQ#t=100m43s (nao (BU) v. Tsuba (CA))