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Hama combos http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm23945879 Now on Youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPUOpOH0U5E&feature=youtu.be

Do you mean combos like xx>sb maragi>dia>5A>stuff? I don't believe those are possible anymore due to the changes that Maragi got. Not 100% though, but i believe that's the case. I would say that Hama is more viable in this version if only because you don't need OMB for most confirms.

6/13 TRF: Elizabeth vs. Shadow Labrys Yosuke vs. Elizabeth 6/29 Arc Revo qualifier: Raitsu (NAR) vs. Damosu (EL) Hoko uta (EL) vs. Tsujikawa (CH) Shi-chan (EL) vs Aria (CH) Damosu (EL) vs Robo (AI) Shi-chan (EL) vs Ajisho (LA) Damosu (EL) vs Moja (TE) Ushidoro (NA) vs Shi-chan (EL) 6/28 urban square 3on3: Masa (EL) vs Kippei (YU) Hiuyki (EL) vs Chie DMS (EL) vs Narukami Satou (MI) vs Elizabeth Kanji vs Hiyuki (EL) Hiyuki (EL) vs. S.Chie Damosu (EL) vs Rori (AI) Damosu (EL) vs YMST (MI) Damosu (EL) vs Secchan (AI)

My stick has been giving me extra directional inputs. Like, for example, if I press 9, sometimes it'll register as 98. It's not a big deal but it can be annoying and I'm looking to fix it. How would I go about fixing this?

At 3H35M on this one http://www.twitch.tv/team_exe2/b/542488682 Also here from the beginning http://www.twitch.tv/team_exe/b/542488806

Dunno if anyone watched Damosu's reign of destruction on stream, but here're some random things I noticed: If Liz A blocks Liz B's awakened 236A, she can punish with 236A. Awakened 236AB gets bopped by 236A if 236A hits between awakened 236AB's first & second shot. jC on reaction to BD is hilarious; I guess it's the best option if you're really close to the other Liz? You can also do awakened 214AB > 236 for a left/right-high/low mix up near/in the corner. Everyone was getting bopped by 214A > 66 5A; I suppose because you can't block for the first 5~ airborne frames? I don't think anyone blocked this. Also, for some reason, Shadow Labrys jB never triggered Randomizer. Anyone know why that might've happened? I've seen Randomizer catch Akihiko jB, so that's kinda weird.

GGs to my lobby. We gotta play again some time, Devkit!

I'm 100% down for this. Sucks that I saw this post like a week late.

6/21 ARC REVO qualifier Minazuki vs Damosu (EL) Kirisame (CH) vs. Damosu (EL)

I would say it's worth playing. Everything that you learn in P4U will carry over to P4U2. You'll just be adjusting to the changes like everyone else. If you need/want learning resources, check out the Dustloop Wiki. Don't forget to ask questions in your character's subforum either. Sent from my SCH-I535 using Tapatalk

Comparatively, you're not really getting into anything different IMO. Liz is pretty much still Liz. However, if we're to examine Liz by herself, I would argue that she's a better character in P4U2(1.1). Her neutral game is better (faster agidyne, empire state building sized maziodyne, multi shot maziodyne, chargeable(!!!) maziodyne, fullscreen bufu, etc), she has a better reversal now in the form of Randomizer (you can combo off of this anywhere on the screen too unlike BD!!!) and to some extent her pressure is better (5a>5aa>5b>5bb stagger, 5c dash cancel, 2c buff on block, etc). I suppose you can write all of this stuff off as being "quality of life" buffs, but I think they make her better. Oh yeah, 5D is pretty bad in this version. I hope you didn't get into the habit of using it a lot.

I'll participate in this if I can. King of the Hill is always cool.

I'm totally subbing this character. All he needs to be perfect is a manaical laughter winquote. Sent from my SCH-I535 using Tapatalk

I should also mention that under each character's name, there is a list of players who, iirc, gave their opinions to create this list. I believe that most people would say that they're top players (ie Die-chan Mitsuru, Okusan Nikuya Elizabeth, torowa Yosuke, etc), and their opinions on the subject are valid. With that being said, that's why the numbers on this chart aren't exactly congruent with each other. You could argue that the chart could be read as Elizabeth vs Narukami feels like it is 3.5-6.5 to Elizabeth players, whereas Narukami players feel that the matchup is 4-6 in Narukami's favor. Though the differences aren't that major, they are interesting nonetheless.

Hi, welcome to the forums! If you want to get acquainted with the terminology that we use here on Dustloop (and that players use in other avenues of communication) I suggest that you check out this page. It contains pretty much everything you need to know regarding fighting game terms. Using a fight stick is a preference. I would suggest trying a stick, and then buying one if you like the feel of it. I will admit that it takes a lot of getting used to, but ever since I made the transition to stick, I feel no desire to go back. I like the "feel" of it better than pad. In terms of sticks, I don't believe that you could go wrong with a Qanba (which I would suggest because it's dual modded right out of the box) or a Madcatz TE. Learning FGs in general just takes some practice and seeking help when you get stuck. Expect to lose a lot; with that being said, you shouldn't let losses discourage you. Losing doesn't really matter as long as you're learning or improving your game. Feel free to ask questions in the appropriate forum or what have you, most of the members here are very helpful. Here's the last P4U tier list from Arcadia. I would suggest that you play whatever character you like, regardless of whether they're top tier or low tier. However, if you're just playing to win and solely for that reason, then picking a top tier just for the sake of them being top tier is fine I guess. You were mostly right in your supposition though, and Elizabeth isn't the strongest character in this game; Shadow Labrys is pretty good though. Again, just pick whichever character you like/feel comfortable with. I've pretty much played Elizabeth exclusively since day 1, and I've no qualms. I hope this post somewhat helped you in some way. If you have further questions, feel free to ask them.

Kohatsu Intrasquad Elizabeth vs Sho Elizabeth vs Sho Elizabeth vs Minazuki Yukari vs Elizabeth

I think the default button layout for P4U works extremely well for it; everything is organized. A/C are at the top so you can easily do evasive action, just as B/D are at the bottom so you can easily DP. I suppose it might be kind of jarring if you're switching between BB & P4U, though I never really had a problem with it (and I play GG too). If it means anything, I use the default layout on stick for any game I play.

GGs to everyone who fought the Terumi mash .

I think P4U has enough life on PSN at present. I haven't played the 360 version since I lost Live a while ago, so I can't really say for that version. People here are usually willing to play if you just ask (in the P4U netplay thread). I'd also like to offer my own answers to your OP: 1. Play whichever game you want to learn/take seriously. I don't really believe in learning x to learn y; while fundamentals and things like that carry over from game to game (or character to character), there're mutually exclusive things as well. Just play what you want. 2. I agree here, P4U is a great starting point if you want to play Ultimax. 3. This is preference, so use whatever you want. I would recommend stick if it's comfortable to you though. Btw, have you checked the match finder thread? Perhaps there's a scene near you that you're not aware of.

GGs to my lobby.

Hopping on, let's go lol woops didn't realize this was 6pm tomorrow and not today .

Is this part of your diabolical plan to land AOA 100% of the time ?

The combo doc is 100% done now. Thanks once again to Luminous. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1WvCrScNd_E2JF3kqdzZZZEaqq9o18QjvVV49vkiwnQk/edit?usp=sharing

This guy is such a villain and I LOVE it.

I got all of these listed, please do not trouble yourself again lol. One thing I'm wondering though is if I should include the added damage from poison in the damage value section. I mean, the combo technically doesn't do that damage I guess? I dunno, it's kinda weird.