Myoro

So Ignis died on ya, well that's the problem, otherwise there's a billion ways to take care of an OD happy Plat. I've confirmed we can ley through every single missile if we aren't forced to do wake up ley on the first one. If you ley through one the next will be the same distance from you the previous one was before you used ley ley.

OOOH can I help!? Heck it'd be amazing if we could get all the Dustloop Relius players in on this!

Necro, If you go on the BBCP board on gamefaqs and search Relius, there is scarcely a topic that I haven't put 2-4 walls of text into.

If you can get the wife in front of you using 214A, 6D, j.2D or some combination of the 3 you can use Tus to intercept all the missiles while Platinum has to look on in horror as she plugs ineffectual nuke after nuke into an uncaring, unfeeling death machine. Also Duo Bios is a thing. It's worth the half a hour in training mode to find out how to do this.

It's prolly old. It mentions primers early on. I could post some huge walls of text I put up for beginners on Game FAQs if you'd like.

Bats are the easiest Ley bait I think I've ever had, I've ley'd through all three in a row before for some hardcore counter trolling. Ignis can eat missiles pretty well, not so much with bombs. If she casts all three missiles you can ley the first two and 3C/2C punish as the third flies over. If she tries to do that stoopid new catch move of hers just start throwing out Tus because it'll tank the counter and punish her for great justice, teach her only real men play with dolls. She's rushdown just like us but with different gimmicks and a worse neutral. get her blocking or hit and you can just finish her like that.

S'more Combos for you lovely people Standard air hit confirm: 5B>2C>6C>41236B>5B>5C>sj>j.B>j.C>j.236C>j.214B The bestest Ignisless Grab RC combo I know: B+C>236C>Rapid>TKj.236C>2C>6C>41236B>3C [3174DMG/-43HT/+full IG] A wonderful midscreen to corner link: 5B>5C>6D>j.C>665B>3C>6D>j.B>2C>236C>214A>665B>2C>6C>4D>3C [3508DMG/25HT/4600IG] (The basic Idea is to cancel into 236C as early as you think you can while still getting 665B to connect, This version goes the furthest I think, but you can get more damage and save more Ignis by 3C>236Cing after any 5B and adding in a 41236B after 6C) Other versions: 5B>3C>236C~214A>665B>2C>6C>41236B>5B>5C>4D>3C [3872DMG/+27HT/-2000IG] 5B>5C>6D>j.C>665B>3C>236C~214A>665B>2C>6C>41236B>665B>5C>4D>3C [3801DMG/+HT27/3300IG] There's another solo in the works but I can't get the 3C at the end to connect (I think I'm just being derpy) 5B>3C>236C>Rapid>5B>2C>6C>41236B>6B>TKj.236C>3C [????DMG/??HT/+full Ignis] Back to the corner: 4B+C>41236B>6B>TKj.236C>2C>6C>236C This corner combo is weird, it only works with 5A on Relius, (Normally I use 5B and get more damage) and I can't get it to work on Jin: CH3C>j.C>2C>236C>5A>6B>TKj.236C>2C>6C>41236B>3C [3054DMG/+21HT/+full Ignis] It does an extra 200ish damage with the 5B and gets like 4 more heat. This one is gonna be so rare I might as well not put it in, It's standing only, and might be limited to tall characters. CH5C>TKj.236C>5B>2C>6C>41236B>3C>236C [3308DMG/+23HT/+A lot of Ignis] 5B>6B>TKj.236C>5B>2C>6C>41236B>3C>236C [3052DMG/+21HT/+a lot of IG] Someone cool should do OD stuff and Fatal j.B>j.C loops and other cool fatal stuff because I suck. Here's my notes on what connects in Fatal that doesn't normally: 5B->6C, 5C->6C, 5C->TKj.236C, 5C>214A. Go nutz guys.

I have many combos to add. (And I think we should label no Ignis combos in some way) Midscreen: (Short) 2A>5B>3C>6D>j.B>2C>6C>41236B>3C [2233DMG/+16HT/-1300IG] (3C oki option) 5B>3C>5A+B>6D>(5A+B hits)>665B>2C>6C>41236B>5B>5C(2)>sj>j.B>j.C>j.236C>j.214B>airdash [4172DMG/-9HT/-2300IG] Ground hit FC2C>5A+B>>665B>6B>j.B>j.C>2C>6C>41236B>5B>5C(2)>sj>j.B>j.C>j.236C>j.214B>airdash [3655DMG/-10HT/-1000IG] CH3C>5A+B>5B>2C>6C>41236B>5B>5C(2)>sj>j.B>j.C>j.236C>j.214B>airdash [4131DMG/-9HT/-1000IG] CH3C->forward jump>falling j.C>2C>6C>41236B>5B>5C(2)>sj>j.B>j.C>j.236C>j.214B>airdash [3363DMG/+24HT/-1000IG] 5B>3C>6D>j.B>662C>6C>214C>41236B>5C(2)>632146D [4117DMG/-28HT/3800IG] 5B>[5C>6D>j.C>665B]x3>5C>3C>632146D [4354DMG/-27HT/-4900IG] air to air CH or falling j.B>5B>2C>6C>41236B>5B>5C(2)>sj>j.B>j.C>j.236C>j.214B>airdash [2787DMG/+19HT/-1000IG] More later

Jin has a weird exception to corner CH3C->j.C->2C->236C =( I really need to test my combos on everyone...

Got the J.C version to work, but the j.B version whiffs on Jin. O_o In other news because of our new Gad Leis buff we can exchange our 3C->6D->j.Bs for 3C->6D->j.Cs and Gad leis will still work. It gets like 100 more damage so don't roll out the ticker tape yet.

Tested it on Relius, I forgot to mention I replaced sj.j.C with sj.j.B to keep them lower to the ground. I'll update the combo. Tell me if it works for you, I'mma try it too.

Keep the burst and embrace the YOLO DP.Astral. Our's is actually our best defensive tool.

You'll understand once you come back from a would-be-perfect by using a burst like that. While it's not a good idea in general, if you do make that comeback, the feeling is monumental.

Well the instant J.A would start up is generally the cue I use. Different jump cancelable moves have different timings about them, so keep experimenting and you'll get it down. If you're talking about what time you jump from the normal then you gotta wait until the end of the hitstop then you're golden I think.

You could think of it as walking forward then 23 button. Just the change in mentality has helped me when I play characters with DPs, but my main is Relius and my sub is Tao, and they don't got DPs, so I'm not an expert on the problem.

If we're talking back to the corner, wouldn't 5B->3C->sj + 6D->j.b->8D->2C->236C->214A->665B->2C->6C->41236B->3C work fine and use less Ignis? We might be able to trade the 3C out for a 5B->(Maybe 5C(2))->4D->3C Just a hypothetical, can't test right now EDIT: it works! Does about the same damage tho, so take yer pick. EDIT2: Updated.

I'll only really pester a person to fight if they're the only free person left in the room, but I'll generally give up after they say "I don't wanna fight you." A couple hours later if I still can't get a match and I see that they can't ether I might ask if they'd reconsider. Stalkerish online male players? What are they trying to accomplish even? Proving how creepy they can be? I really don't see how it could possibly benefit anyone to flirt online in such an environment. Even if the other party was into it for whatever reason (Which I would imagine would be incredibly rare normally and downright impossible when you have to STALK them to talk to them) you're prolly hundreds upon hundreds of miles away and could do nothing but awkwardly flirt through PSN... Did someone actually use the term "sugar cups" tho~? That phrase is objectively hilarious because of how bad it is. Some real "A" tier material there. Well anyway I've got a peeve to drop off now. My own connection as of late. It runs fine and then randomly blips out. I'd be more okay with it if I was winning every time it happened, but at times it happens when I'm losing and it ends up making me look like a rage quitter. I stress about those kinds of things.

Draygon's alive!! Also lol

2363214C is easier for me though, I dont like having to cross from 4->6 under pressure, I always used to end up doing 63214136C and everything would go up in flames.

You should try falling j.C->665B->6A sometime. It's fantastic. Falling j.B->double jump immediate j.C->j.2D->falling j.B is another fun one. Also yolo 5B/3C->236D->forward jump j.C unblockable is amazing even on block.

Do it Bruh! I dare you! Yeah, I realized that soon after posting... to good to be true. Have a 4B+C corner combo instead guyz 4B+C->41236B->5B->6B->TKj.236C->5B->2C->6C->236C->3C (3210 damage + 23 heat + Full Ignis prolly.)

Thanks Krieg! Guyz new Gad leis has mad reset potential. I just did (Back to corner) 4B+C->41236B->5B->2C->6C->41236B->RC->dashgrab. It looks dirty as sin, y'all need to weaponize it

I think he got 36000 as hit astral damage because he's the last character that's gonna appear on the 360.

So if it's true that astral damage reflects power level, then Relius' Kinky torture chamber i only a little weaker than Mu's god killing attack?

You use 6D as you jump cancel from 3C. The input looks like 3C->9D->falling j.B. You should use each move as late as possible, so 6D hits the opponent right before they touch the ground and you use j.B at the end of 6D's hitstun so that you can touch the ground in time for you 2C to hit.