NecroTheReaper

Oh its great when you have a hitbox when you can just hold down to constantly charge DP. When you know that overhead after an air attack is coming, switch low for the tiniest millisecond before switching high, and still getting hit overhead.

Indeed. I didn't know I'd start some shit when I said "Relius has the same issue as Tsubaki confirming into a combo from a max range 5B without ignis".

I'm just answering your question why everyone plays him xD everyone's opinion on Az seems to change with who their main is

I think its partially coincidence, since these characters have large fan bases. Now, if you see someone's card reading Koko/Haz/Valk/Tao all down the line, they may be tier whoring, but since Az and Jin are A tier and still have problem matchups, I feel its coincidence. A lot of people have been begging for Kokonoe for a long time, so you'll see a lot of people who love usin her regardless of where she was placed in tiers.

Once again comparing Relius, who needs no buffs, who Tsubaki, who needs some help. Doesn't work out that great with such a huge gap. Anyway, how am I suppose to tell you who has a 5B since what makes a 5B good is how well it compliments the playstyle. Hell I could just throw out Hazama/Terumi for its great stagger potential.

See, that's where you wweren't paying attention. I wasn't complaining about anything, all I said is that ignis normals are good because Relius normals suck by themselves. Then you kept saying "it doesnt matter if his normals arent good, he can get pressure with ignis" which is EXACTLY WHAT I WAS SAYING. If he couldn't convert a max range blocked 5B into his pressure game with ignis 6D, he'd be awful. Yet you keep bringing up "well Tsubaki cant do it". Errol was talking about Lanto hitboxes and how Relius had big normals, I said "of course its got a good hitbox, its what makes Relius good because 5B by itself isn't that great". Relius himself, without ignis, is probably just under Arakune without the threat of ever getting curse. So bringing up ignis, the thing that makes him not F tier, is kinda irrelevant since I already said she is what makes Relius good.

Some DD enders ruin your momentum by allowing them to escape your pressure after using them. The reason you see Tao players use her air DD is because it gives knockdown after a more damaging air ender that normally wouldn't give knockdown. Also, because meter is a valuable and more difficult to obtain resource in BB rather than other fighters imo, using it for just raw damage isn't a great idea if it won't kill. Its usually better saved for rapid cancels and counter assaults which can give you good mixup options or save your ass when you really need it. Terumi players that hoard meter are wantin it stockpiled so they can have a 7-8k kill combo ready once they get you into the blast zone lol. So essentiallym you just have to realize that distortions arent the only things that require meter in this game.

You know, gonna keep it simple. People who use low tier characters to complain about high tier characters. No one is saying your low tier character doesn't need a buff.

Just use 2A? I mean, if you're referring to Haku 5A, of you look at what it already has: air unblockable, 5f startup, +3 on block... its already a really good tool if not one of the better5As lol. But it is annoying when your 5A is faster than uyour 2A for poking out of pressure. If that's where it comes from I get it lol

Thats not one of Relius' normals, which was what I was talking about.

I thought he was RCing the 3C with how things sounded, my bad lol.

If 3C cancels into stomps anyway, couldn't you just delay the cancel instead of RCing? Amyway, I really need to learn my low tier matchups. Tsubaki, with how hard she is to find, I have no clue how to fight against. It was to the point that I didn't even know how to punish her wiffed DP

That's unsettling... I'm a redhead. Honestly I feel like Errol just has a personal distaste for relius players, which I would be fine with. I have my own distaste in characters xD. But yeah, Tsubaki really needs thrm buffs

Relius has 5B. Thats it lol, and it suffers from the same issue as Tsubaki with not doing anything at max range. And lanto isn't spammable. Its also has a bigger gap than using HF or ice car from further ranges. Though I will say, if it hits or is blocked, Relius is safe. If he wasn't, ignis would be worthless for getting in. Man, peoples rage at Relius is amusing.

I said it was annoying, jeebus, no need for an.attack xP. And I never said Tsubaki didnt need some hitbox buffs either xD Edit:: actually i never said anything about terumi or ragna. And you make it sound like Relius would even be a threat if ignis didn't have hitboxes like that

I will say, seeing foot hitboxes going straight through lanto is annoyiny, but there's a lot of projectiles that have screwed up hitboxes this game from what I've seen.

Wait wait wait... all the new characters EXCEPT Azrael are way too strong? I can accept Kokonoe, but I just... what? All the other new characters are no where near as good as Az.

Yeah, I can only imagine how hard it is for the Tsubaki players. For some reason I'm still bad that MU though.

But the person I used those on was a Noel player... Errol just doesn't understamd -cry- xD. No way to keep pressure up on a barrier blocking Noel when she can 4D ignis pressure resets @.@. Granted 4D does nothing to j.xD.

Why do scrubs spam Jin ice car or Plat heart car? Same concept with Terumi 6C. Big hitbox, fast, and does damage. If a noob find himself able to beat other noobs like this, he doesn't havr much incentive do do anything else xD. Though, as someone pointed out earlier, the hell is with barrier pushback? Gimme Ex pushback back.

See, its the fact that you just said 4-5k xD. "50 meter, wonder what I'm gonna do with it, OH WAIT, I can use it to give my high damage combos even MORE damage AND knockdown". I will say though that I know all too well how hard it is to play as tao in lag. Really bad in Ex. Give her DD ender like... 400 min damage xD

That may be true, but I dont think ragna is meant to mash 24/7 with his 10k hp. And the guy I fought may have been pretty cool all around, but man his playstyle pissed me off -_- noel has never been that aggrivating to me

I know watcha mean on that last part. I just IB'd Noel's assault through, tried.to 5B, and somehow got CH'd And same guy, people who play to win so hard they would keep playing if their opponent just got all their fingers cut off and were blinded. This guy would see lag, BAM, pink grab. why did arksys even make grabs available during hitstun? I can understand blockstun, but hitstun is the modt 200% retarded bullshit concept.

Well, first thing to know is you can delay that string a lot. If they're too high, delay 6C slightly, still a bit high? Delay 41236B slightly. Even further back in the combo, you can delay the j.B after 3C>6D by a bit. And it solves a few problems, but the 2nd hit -can- still wiff if you aren't careful. It.doesnt happen alot, but it can happen in 1.1

I keep getting 4D like 80-90% of the time. Its really only while airborne that it refuses to come out. I keep tryin to do crossup allecan>5B>2B>5C>6D>j.C>5B>5C>46D>IAD j.AAAA>j.2C>j.AAB+3D and 4D ruins my UB