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Erm... pretty much what someone said... Slower j2c+allecan=j2c>allegretto instead of j2c~allecan. So you'd have to do j2c as low to the ground as humanly possible.

Possibly, I haven't checked it extensively. The timing is kinda tricky. Buuuuuuut what I'm saying is you should make them too afraid to tech. Force them to guess, and make them realize that every mistake = 6k right back into loop. 2 wrong guesses, and GGs. Best part is that it takes next-to-no Nirvana meter to do the 6k reset, aaaaaaaand they can't do srk>rc>escape if you're doing the reset combo. So yeah... put the fear of god into them.

Do it faster, lololol. Or mix it up. Grab quick, then IAD basketball, then whiff it, etc etc. Ragna breaks the throw wrong once, you just won. GGs, next round.

Still, isn't carl fast enough to beat the upper that has no invul? We could also used allegretto, I suppose. Buuuuuut yeah. Also, dunno if this was mentioned before, but how does rolling through 2d work out for us? Not that Jin uses it regularly, buuuuuut I'd still like to know.

Just don't drop your loops like a retard. Stupid Kyaku trying to be fancy. D:<

Thank god. Okay, first thing to remember with BB combos: SLOW DOWN! Seriously, I can play Melee at ridiculous speeds without dropping combos, but when it comes time to do Carl's loop and I'm pumped up, the #1 reason I drop it is because I get too excited and do things a little too fast. Slow down with everything. Even allecan is really slow, once you get used to it. Once you acknowledge just how slowly you input things in this game vs GG, SSBM, or even SF4, you'll find that you're hitting combos a lot more. Aside from that, practice practice practice. My trick for doing srks is to press forward, return the stick to neutral, and then do a fireball motion. Works every time.

I'm pretty sure he meant that you need to stick with him until you learn your bad match-ups better, or to just give up on Carl. Rachel is pretty much penance for what we do to almost every other character. Own up or go home. He's not personally attacking anyone. Just telling people to stop bitching about the match-up and learn it. Example - Without wasting a LOT of wind and a pole nearby/super meter, Rachel isn't going to be doing over 3k per combo. Learn to block, respect the pumpkin, and frustrate her until she does wind mix-ups. Like zoogs said, if your blocking isn't up to par, GGs, but if it is, you might be facing a Rach with only 1 wind stock left. Combo into loop ASAP, make her burn the wind to get out, and loop that hoe. Also, my ground loop is the shit, guize. Start using it vs her fat ass.

Search for a nicovideo redirector. Lately, it's been weird about my account, so I just used that, and it works fine. Seriously, I'm surprised this isn't the first thing everyone noticed.

Someone could correct me, but hasn't Chaz given us a few universal loops?

I'm more happy about daigo-parrying 5d. That's going in my video, for sure.

ITT: Bitches have no respekt

Heyyyyyyyy Nice to see a new face! Fred+Me were rockin' the BB set-up. Expect it to be even better next year. Maybe we can even have a BB tourney or sumdat.

Taosu, do you have XBL? Or XDest, or whoever is good with Tao? I neeeeeeeed exp in this match-up.

I know that. We're gonna have to play without overheads, and just xup on the x axis. Unless 6c gets buffed. Seriously, that move is garbage. Though I might have a use for it. I'll letcha guys know in a day or two if it works.

Nah. When I lose to Jin, it's because I hold up+back to block vs him, and I either forget to fd the 5d, or I forget to block low. Autopiloting defense with Carl is baaaaaad. The character I lose to most often when played by scrubs is Ragna. I just fall for stupid things sometimes, lolol. HIS STANDING OVERHEAD REACHES INTO FOREVER!

That would be anyone that plays Carl. You always have to be on point. I've lost matches to terrible players just because I got lazy for a little bit.

Are you playing on stick or pad? Carl's a bit more costly to play as, since you pretty much have to get a stick And you WILL be losing a lot at first, unless you play absolute scrubs.

We dunno just how slow it is. That's why I said it may be just as easy to block as anything that nonFRKZ Bang can throw at you. 50/50 is a situation where they have a 50% chance of guessing wrong. Anywhere in a blockstring where you can go between a low and an overhead with them having to guess, rather than react, is a 50/50. 5a>2b/j2c will be our new 50/50. Either that, or we're gonna have to get really creative/good and just bust out unblocks all day long. I guess I should work on that anyway. Blegh.

I have a friend with that gun. It's tight. I wanna get the shotgun. You load it the same way and everything. Buuuuuut anyway Good news that I remembered! We still can do iad j2c off a lot of things. Our new 50/50 will have less range, of course (will prolly have to do it off 5a), buuut at least we'll have it. Though really, if it's not an overhead, it'll be just as easy to block as Bang's mix-ups. Boooo.

Vs kune, just hide behind nirvana and do SRK when you think he's gonna be in range, then set up sandwich crap. No joke, it works wonders. Vs bad kune, jump at near-max shark range, and then block it. GGs, bad kune players around the world. Also, vs j.b spam, you can either try to get above him and hit with j.c/2c, orrrrrr you can be all risky and try to grab him in between those and dives. Is fun!

Here's hoping his solo damage buff is a considerable one. I want 3k offa 2a without Nirvana. D:< Hazama, I may just abandon Carl for you.

Look for an update to this thread + all other directories I'm in charge of by Wednesday. Been too busy to do it lately, sorry. D:

Maaaaaaaaaan... No jcable 5b on block? Slower j2c? Carl better get some SERIOUS buffs. FUUUUUUUUUCK I just got down 2a,5a,5b summon iad j.2c, 5b, 5c, 6d>whatever Oh well, prolly gonna be a year, so I'll enjoy broken Carl nao, kthnx. Kune is starting to sound madd good to play as, though. Clouds no longer have hitboxes, so I dunno if Nirvana can absorb them anymore. Fever mode ~kinda~ sucks for Kune, but it sounds more like the way he works curse is that he'll just have to avoid maxing out the curse meter. So gay.

Time to get miles better than my local Rachels.

I dun have a way to record, but I have a LOOOOOOOOOT of replays. I'd prolly actually upload matches where I lose rather than win, since I neeeeed to learn. Or you could send me a capture card, and I could just record every match of mine EVAR and you guys can see how brokeN I am.