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Don't punish. IB and roll, or IB, SJ, and get out, or IB and summon. Against Nu, you can't just spam rolls. You have to use them intelligently. Mix them in with dj, sdj, and karacan iad, and you'll do better.

This is why I say Carl is a charge character. 8d=nirvana raises the roof Buffering is like guy said. You input a move while another move is out. So for Tager, he does 5b (while 5b is still showing, input 720), super. It doesn't combo, buuuuuut it's a good way to get the 720 out without jumping. Most people can't do standing 720s, so it's pretty common practice.

Kinda. You do the 8d early, and it misses, causing them to bounce. Land, turn nirvana off/move her forward, and repeat.

I wouldn't worry about getting too off topic here in the Carl boards. Kyle sets things straight when he needs to, but he doesn't really need to all that often.

Chaz's Universal Loop. ...J.bc+8d (hit), A.D., J.bc+8d(whiff) It's a pretty cool trick for new Carl's to learn, but bad to rely on if your comp isn't retarded. Fortunately for me, one of the people I play IS retarded, and would rather eat 0-death than learn how to properly tech the combo. Whatever, free matches for me.

Lololol Sorry, I do the scrub loop to see who can get outta it. I recall you eating a full-life scrub loop. >_> Buuuuuuut, you're right. I also need to learn the teleport combo vs Carl, and to IB>viva. GGs. I'll put some matches up today or tomorrow, I think. I'm really saaaaaaad. I did a retarded combo to Slayer last night (airgrab, super, fueco, airgrab, super, fueco, airgrab) and didn't get it saved. Boooooooooooo. Thanks for forcing me to approach differently, btw. I've started doing a lot more safe jumps now. :D

^Can we? GGs, Kyle. j.a is goooood BUT I'M BETTER! lolol No, srsly, ggs

I could be wrong, but velocity is prolly pos y, whereas gravity is neg y.

6a

Jin has like... 1 overhead, and you can reaction block it once you get used to it. His lows are quicker and more common, so I just block low. Plus, you don't accidentally dash backwards by holding 1 instead of 4.

When you do learn how to wiggle out, I'd suggest learning to do it DIO style and end in a crouch block.

I can try it vs iad j.b I dunno though, the Jin I fight regularly in tournament does something like 2a(1-3)*, 5b (2 hits), 5c, jc falling j.b/j.d>ex air fireball I know his pressure patterns pretty well, buuuut I have no idea what to do about it. I let him keep it going because rolling and having momentum reset pisses me off, esp with how hard it can be to get in on Jin sometimes. Good CH combo off 6a 6a, jc j.b, jc j.b, 214c, 8]d[>loop If you don't have the situation as N-O-C vs Jin, I feel like you're already doing something wrong, but that's just how I play Carl.

6a can beat j.b? What's the situation? My 6a always gets stuffed, so I just started doing vivace. Problem being that everything goes back to neutral, and nuetral vs jin=jin's advantage, I feel. maybe I should do summon>viva>pressure.

^that buuuuuuuuuut Final Round Be there, Zoogs. Then you, me, and Kyle can get drunk and whine about how bad Carl is in the new iteration. Or we can just place top 3. :D

I still dunno what to do about his "pressure". It's not even good pressure, but I dunno what to beat with what. In particular, I have problems with his j.b. =(

If I have the free time, it's no problem! Buuuuuuut we'll see. School>>> me, and I need to go donate tomorrow. I'll post here to letcha know, though.

I'm worried, but I'm sure I'll find someone else to play if Carl's gay. If not, back to Melee, I guess. =( It's moreover the flashing black crap. Makes it annoying. D:< D:< D:<

omfg Carl's so fucking funny to watch now. BZZT! Allecan still looks good. Karacan looks good. Nirvana regenerates retarded fast now, wtf? BZZT!

Practice, practice, practice. I still mess up on stick sometimes, but it's ME messing up, not the controller. Carl's a very technical character, so don't be discouraged by messing up "simple" combos. The biggest problem with the roll combo is you kinda have to do the 3c deep. With the allecan, as long as 3c/2a/whatever connects, you got yourself a loop.