brilliant green Posted October 29, 2009 Posted October 29, 2009 Fun fact- if your going to use 41236]D[ , please watch out for 720. I can't tell you how many carls i beat just because of this...
brilliant green Posted October 29, 2009 Posted October 29, 2009 You're the guy I fought last night! GGs! You're the only Tager that takes the loop like a man. I need to fix my stick soooooooo bad, though. Down stopped working like... a billion times. That's why you'd see me start moving forward, then crouch, then just stand in place for like... 5 seconds. But yeah, niiiiiiiice stuff. I think you also IBed the 3c and 720'ed me before I could do my gear unblockable set-up. Niiiiiiiiiice. when you were doing the throw loop, i got myself some ice tea. not even joking. And just be glad you have a stick. too poor atm to buy one, so ib 720 is hard as hell for me. i also can't block low with pad for some reason. use more lows! but this is getting a bit off-topic i think. time to talk about how this match-up is ass now!
Zoogstin Posted October 30, 2009 Posted October 30, 2009 I hate fighting Tager, because its so bad for Tager. And then there are other times where for some reason I will goof up, and die a horrible death. Its like I rape, or do something stupid. I'm never satisfied. =( By the way something to keep in mind if you're being juggled and the Tager wants you to tech so he can collider you, there's a good chance that if you tech and mash j.A you knock him out of it. Especially if you're not magnetized.
brilliant green Posted October 30, 2009 Posted October 30, 2009 Be careful about your backdashes, btw! I was hoping to play you one more time on ranked so I could getcha for them. i have a habit of tapping the stick back twice when i want to ib. somehow the habit transferred to pad, but now i get all these backdashes for no apparent reason when i try to ib. 360 pad is garbage.
ShinsoBEAM Posted October 30, 2009 Posted October 30, 2009 I hate fighting Tager, because its so bad for Tager. And then there are other times where for some reason I will goof up, and die a horrible death. Its like I rape, or do something stupid. I'm never satisfied. =( By the way something to keep in mind if you're being juggled and the Tager wants you to tech so he can collider you, there's a good chance that if you tech and mash j.A you knock him out of it. Especially if you're not magnetized. Yeah this we have to let go of collider at just the right time offline this is totally doable online it can be a pain.
Kyle Posted October 30, 2009 Posted October 30, 2009 I've revived this fight guys. When you play Tager, "Don't throw loop him!". This fight is soooooo much more fun this way. Seriously, give it a try people.
4Corners Posted October 30, 2009 Posted October 30, 2009 Man, I did that like... 5 years ago. Instead of that, why not just fight him with Solo Carl? That's why mine is so beastly, mhmm. He normally wins, though. 14 combos vs 2 = no bueno. =( Still, BEST SOLO CARL EVER?!?
A.X.I.S. Posted November 2, 2009 Posted November 2, 2009 Man, I did that like... 5 years ago. Instead of that, why not just fight him with Solo Carl? That's why mine is so beastly, mhmm. He normally wins, though. 14 combos vs 2 = no bueno. =( Still, BEST SOLO CARL EVER?!? until J.2C magically lands on you then i take 60% of your life. need to play you again izzy.
Kyle Posted November 2, 2009 Posted November 2, 2009 Kk. I might be on a little bit tonight. I have the Melee fever BAAAAAAD, tho. Messages like these should be via PM. SolBadass : AxisTheBeast Is the strongest Tager I've sparred with on X-box Live. I legitimately feel guilty doing throw loops om him... but know I can't win without it.
4Corners Posted November 2, 2009 Posted November 2, 2009 Alrighty. Fight McSoap. He's pretty good, and goes to make tea when you loop him. He does IB>720 on the most random shit. I thought 3c xx gear was completely safe, till he 720'ed it. D: Axis is tight, though. One of my favourite Tagers to fight. He bends my solo Carl over, though. =(
A.X.I.S. Posted November 3, 2009 Posted November 3, 2009 Messages like these should be via PM. SolBadass : AxisTheBeast Is the strongest Tager I've sparred with on X-box Live. I legitimately feel guilty doing throw loops om him... but know I can't win without it. i'm scarred to be near carl when the doll is near me, it screams for claps. kyle if you want to spar i'm normally online alot just hit me up.
Heroic_Legacy Posted November 4, 2009 Posted November 4, 2009 Is it possible for Carl to win this matchup WITHOUT clap looping? I want to see it if so.
Kyle Posted November 4, 2009 Posted November 4, 2009 Is it possible for Carl to win this matchup WITHOUT clap looping? I want to see it if so. I've been doing this for two weeks now. I plan on uploading vids soon enough.
Eshi Posted November 4, 2009 Posted November 4, 2009 Is it possible for Carl to win this matchup WITHOUT clap looping? I want to see it if so.It's not as free when Carl has the offense but it's still pretty deeply in his favor. Huge hitbox and little mobility makes it easy to keep him sandwiched. It's much more fun though.
A.X.I.S. Posted November 4, 2009 Posted November 4, 2009 Is it possible for Carl to win this matchup WITHOUT clap looping? I want to see it if so. of course he can, he can still do over 3k with just us being sandwiched...*drools* sandwich.
ShinsoBEAM Posted November 5, 2009 Posted November 5, 2009 of course he can, he can still do over 3k with just us being sandwiched...*drools* sandwich. yeah p. much, but still carl has to be careful 720s are free if he gets predictable, but if you can mangage to not get sandwitched the match really isn't too bad, unfortunatly against good carls if I block 6D and don't IB it im instantly sandwitched for the most part.
A.X.I.S. Posted November 6, 2009 Posted November 6, 2009 yeah p. much, but still carl has to be careful 720s are free if he gets predictable, but if you can mangage to not get sandwitched the match really isn't too bad, unfortunatly against good carls if I block 6D and don't IB it im instantly sandwitched for the most part. you let 6D hit you? i take it as note unless its 41236D i don't let the doll hit me, or try not to, if you do then carl might as well set you up for clap and kill you. also i wanted to say xcammy your carl is pretty sick, sometimes i thought i had you other times i didn't either way your carl is rough and proof that clap loop isn't imperative to hit to kill tager. if it wasn't for clap loop it probably would be 6.5-3.5 in carls favor.
Mascarpone Posted November 6, 2009 Posted November 6, 2009 My favorite way to do this fight is to be as annoying as possible. 5C and a very quick 623]D[ at the beginning of the match basically gives tager no offensive options.. he can either back dash or eat a wimpy poke. If he tries to jump or super jump he eats brio. And from there i just irritate the living day lights out of him until my opponent breaks their controller/stcik against their skull. I'll throw loop if they make me grumpy, but generally i just keep Ada in the middle of the screen and Poke him with 5C if he attempts to advance from the ground, Brio if he comes in from the air since his air movement is actually slow enough to Brio -almost- on reaction. CH5C as Kyle said opens the floor for ripping them a shiny new sphincter, but especially if u are online be careful with loops because one accidental reset has a high probability of getting you grabbed. And yes if all else fails and you just want to end it all, throw loop to your hearts content. it's practicely button mashing against tager ; - ; P.S. if you want to look fancy and do absolutely no damage, end a sandwich combo with 4]D[ and then air combo off the wall bounce. It accomplishes nothing but looks cool and you feel like Siegfried and Roy. only less gay.
A.X.I.S. Posted November 6, 2009 Posted November 6, 2009 My favorite way to do this fight is to be as annoying as possible. 5C and a very quick 623]D[ at the beginning of the match basically gives tager no offensive options.. he can either back dash or eat a wimpy poke. If he tries to jump or super jump he eats brio. And from there i just irritate the living day lights out of him until my opponent breaks their controller/stcik against their skull. I'll throw loop if they make me grumpy, but generally i just keep Ada in the middle of the screen and Poke him with 5C if he attempts to advance from the ground, Brio if he comes in from the air since his air movement is actually slow enough to Brio -almost- on reaction. CH5C as Kyle said opens the floor for ripping them a shiny new sphincter, but especially if u are online be careful with loops because one accidental reset has a high probability of getting you grabbed. And yes if all else fails and you just want to end it all, throw loop to your hearts content. it's practicely button mashing against tager ; - ; P.S. if you want to look fancy and do absolutely no damage, end a sandwich combo with 4]D[ and then air combo off the wall bounce. It accomplishes nothing but looks cool and you feel like Siegfried and Roy. only less gay. i never to this day see tager do the smartest option in the start of this match. get back! safest option and works on all carls seeing how nirvana is too slow, if he uses flueco then thats IB'd and gives us meter hell i jumped and IB'd carls rush too, but if tager isn't trying to avoid being near you until your A. being stupid or B. poked you out of it then he deserves a clap, i'm to the point that carl can't get a CH 5C on me I'd rather get hit, block then let that ch roll in, and don't think we can't annoy you too. we can poke the doll, it stuffs every move she has except for 4D, we can pop you out the air and we can run like hell away from you, we can gain ground fast in this matchup, long as we don't get caught between you and the doll its anyones game, i beat lots of carls trying to be slick with the doll but the tagers you got, damn they are stupid. T_T
ShinsoBEAM Posted November 6, 2009 Posted November 6, 2009 you let 6D hit you? i take it as note unless its 41236D i don't let the doll hit me, or try not to, if you do then carl might as well set you up for clap and kill you. also i wanted to say xcammy your carl is pretty sick, sometimes i thought i had you other times i didn't either way your carl is rough and proof that clap loop isn't imperative to hit to kill tager. if it wasn't for clap loop it probably would be 6.5-3.5 in carls favor. Sometimes carls, p. fast man and can punish a backdash with iad p. well. Also in response to xcammy yeah your p. good, I don't remember playing you for a while but you knew your pressure decently well, and to do 2a,5a,5b,5c instead of 6b finisher in order to keep us from IB, 360A grabbing.
A.X.I.S. Posted November 7, 2009 Posted November 7, 2009 Sometimes carls, p. fast man and can punish a backdash with iad p. well. Also in response to xcammy yeah your p. good, I don't remember playing you for a while but you knew your pressure decently well, and to do 2a,5a,5b,5c instead of 6b finisher in order to keep us from IB, 360A grabbing. no lie, while playing carl i had to sub backdash for 2C or colider, and when he starts using J.A he started double jumping i'm not sure but i might be able to IB tech wheel the J.A's but will it help? doubt it. xcammy almost lost to me last night, carl is too much for old tager to handle.
Mascarpone Posted November 7, 2009 Posted November 7, 2009 I never underestimate anyone's ability to be completely annoying lol. And yes, many many tager players i come across do not seem to have a clue what they are doing. ... many players in general are that way. I can be plenty meat-headed myself though so i certainly dont try to pass myself off as superior. But hey it's a competitive game, you monopolize off people's carelessness :3
ShinsoBEAM Posted November 7, 2009 Posted November 7, 2009 I never underestimate anyone's ability to be completely annoying lol. And yes, many many tager players i come across do not seem to have a clue what they are doing. ... many players in general are that way. I can be plenty meat-headed myself though so i certainly dont try to pass myself off as superior. But hey it's a competitive game, you monopolize off people's carelessness :3 Yeah seriously carls I recommend you take us seriously, I mean not doing the clap loop is fine if you want, but at least like fight us seriously other than that, cause ya might feel sorry for tager but in all honesty I beat more carls than I lose too, about 1/2 of those wins are pure over confidence faults, and them getting gimmick killed another round. Also I have no idea how many carls try to bait my A on nirvana and 5C counter hit, I just normally 6C pressure when they start doing that(aka when the doll is already whiffing an attack) Im sure their is an easy way to counter it but these carls sure don't do it.
A.X.I.S. Posted November 7, 2009 Posted November 7, 2009 I never underestimate anyone's ability to be completely annoying lol. And yes, many many tager players i come across do not seem to have a clue what they are doing. ... many players in general are that way. I can be plenty meat-headed myself though so i certainly dont try to pass myself off as superior. But hey it's a competitive game, you monopolize off people's carelessness :3 total population of carls that in BB 400. population of skilled carls, 12. so most tagers don't know how gay he is.
Kyle Posted November 7, 2009 Posted November 7, 2009 I bait Magnetic whirl/720 by Jump+Barrier as he wakes up. Magnetic whirl comes out, I IB in the air for tension, good good. I KNOW that while air guarding this the last hit crosses-up. I proceed to IB the cross-up. Good good. Time to guard the Overhead he will do after an RC. Tricky tricky... Oh SHIT. He RC into 360... I neglect to break purple throw. He wins the set. FUCK. That was seriously the most enjoyable set I've played. Great matches Axis BadAss! THX for the compliments. =)
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