Ryu Posted March 23, 2008 Posted March 23, 2008 Just started using an arcade controller for GG a few weeks ago. (only played with it about 2 or 3 sittings) I have the Tekken 5 controller. I recommend it because the buttons are set curved so it is natural to set 4 fingers on 4 buttons at a time. The way i hold my controller is standard i guess. thumb in front, index on top, and palm behind; with loose grip. For guilty gear's standard arcade setting my fingers usually rest on the buttons P, K, S, HS. My pinkly finger shifts between HS and D. The hardest motions for me are 44 and 623. I also rarely use my pinkly finger for anything so its a little weird. everything else seems natural. RC and FRC are easier, way easier. No more button mapping. So far I dont see the advantage of using a stick. (well other than I can own at the arcades now.) RC and FRC's are easier. Every thing else seems about the same. To me the precision seems to be the same as analogue for a PS2 controller.
EndScape Posted March 25, 2008 Posted March 25, 2008 I have a question about swtiching from pad to stick. Sorry if this sounds dumb but for learning purposes should I use my stick all the time now (like during causuals with my friends) or should I only practice with it in training mode until it feels more natural? I know this may just be about preference but I want to know how others went about it. Right now I have a bit of trouble with IAD and half circle motions and my overall reaction time is bit slower trying to control the stick but it's not too bad. I use a sanwa jlf balltop and sanwa buttons btw.
Ryu Posted March 25, 2008 Posted March 25, 2008 The best way to get good with it is to use it in real matches. Doesnt matter if you suck with it at first. Personally I use mine all the time. When it comes down to it you need to know your controller like the back of your hand. In a fighting game hand motions come by practice and instinct. You don't want to be relying on reaction time at the end of a match because you pressed the wrong button thinking it was some other controller.
SugataDesigns Posted March 25, 2008 Posted March 25, 2008 I have a question about swtiching from pad to stick. Sorry if this sounds dumb but for learning purposes should I use my stick all the time now (like during causuals with my friends) or should I only practice with it in training mode until it feels more natural? I know this may just be about preference but I want to know how others went about it. Right now I have a bit of trouble with IAD and half circle motions and my overall reaction time is bit slower trying to control the stick but it's not too bad. I use a sanwa jlf balltop and sanwa buttons btw. When I first got my stick, I started playing only with it. After a few weeks I felt comfortable with it and after a month and a half or so, it had actually improved my playing. I had probs with both IAD-ing and half-circles as well. You'll grow accustomed to it
EndScape Posted March 25, 2008 Posted March 25, 2008 Thanks for the input guys, and now that I think about it, I guess that would be the fastest way to improve. I'll just have to endure the beastings until I can adapt I guess.
Digital Watches Posted March 25, 2008 Posted March 25, 2008 Just started using an arcade controller for GG a few weeks ago. (only played with it about 2 or 3 sittings) I have the Tekken 5 controller. I recommend it because the buttons are set curved so it is natural to set 4 fingers on 4 buttons at a time. The way i hold my controller is standard i guess. thumb in front, index on top, and palm behind; with loose grip. For guilty gear's standard arcade setting my fingers usually rest on the buttons P, K, S, HS. My pinkly finger shifts between HS and D. The hardest motions for me are 44 and 623. I also rarely use my pinkly finger for anything so its a little weird. everything else seems natural. RC and FRC are easier, way easier. No more button mapping. So far I dont see the advantage of using a stick. (well other than I can own at the arcades now.) RC and FRC's are easier. Every thing else seems about the same. To me the precision seems to be the same as analogue for a PS2 controller. Money match? Also: The HRAP has the same layout and is more moddable than the Tekken stick (Well, they're basically identical, but the moddable thing is something I've heard). Also, I would claim that anyone who doesn't think that stick helps either hasn't gotten used to it or doesn't do anything that hard in the first place.
faultydefense Posted March 25, 2008 Posted March 25, 2008 just checkin around, but was looking for somethin cheap. Anyone got a hori 2, tekken 5 stick, or even a cheap(er) custom stick for sale. I'm tryin to keep this around 70$ shipping included if at all possible.
lymevirus Posted March 29, 2008 Posted March 29, 2008 i would have to recomend finding one of the SF anniversary stick and moding that. i have one with Horey(im sure i spealt that wrong) buttons and stick parts. i think the stick was $60 and the parts added up to i think 30$. controllers are for noobs
Digital Watches Posted March 30, 2008 Posted March 30, 2008 Isn't the SF anniversary stick a bit... Big? It seems like one of those would be a bitch to lug around.
Shazay Posted March 31, 2008 Author Posted March 31, 2008 Isn't the SF anniversary stick a bit... Big? It seems like one of those would be a bitch to lug around. Yeah its huge :x I used to have one but if you want American parts its probably one of the best (especially the pcb), cheapest, and easiest to mod.
DJ Xero Posted April 9, 2008 Posted April 9, 2008 Did the HRAP2 go back out of production, or is Play-Asia just sold out?
DandyStepper Posted April 9, 2008 Posted April 9, 2008 I have a HRAP. Its wire(The black wire connecting the stick to the system) is ripped and its showing the inside stuff(red,blue,white,yellow wires etc) The stick works fine right now(since i put some ghetto electrical tape on it) but this is just patching up the issue. Is there a way to fix this? I was thinking i do have an extra ps2 controller(which buttons suck but wires and pcb are intacted) maybe i can switch the HRAP's p2s pcb for the extra one i got. But i dunno how to do it. Many thanks in advance, and after.
Digital Watches Posted April 9, 2008 Posted April 9, 2008 I have a HRAP. Its wire(The black wire connecting the stick to the system) is ripped and its showing the inside stuff(red,blue,white,yellow wires etc) The stick works fine right now(since i put some ghetto electrical tape on it) but this is just patching up the issue. Is there a way to fix this? I was thinking i do have an extra ps2 controller(which buttons suck but wires and pcb are intacted) maybe i can switch the HRAP's p2s pcb for the extra one i got. But i dunno how to do it. Many thanks in advance, and after. Yeah, cords are allegedly the worst thing to break on a stick. In all honesty, it might be better to try to find someone's HRAP that's broken/not in use and just take the cord from that, since there's a quick-disconnect with which you can take the HRAP's cord off and swap another one in. If you have to change the PCB, you'll have to get into the black box under the levers (Dunno how to do that), and then solder the PCB. In my experience, third-party controller PCBs are easier to solder.
Senkei Posted April 9, 2008 Posted April 9, 2008 yeah had a huge problem with my 2/6switchs on my HRAP....i couldn't block on the right side (while i was playing tourney matches at final round) supposedly they were running at like half speed...every once and awhile it would start working again but i actually fixed it last night, i have a ps3HRAP and just switched that shit out......now it works like a charm
DJ Xero Posted April 9, 2008 Posted April 9, 2008 http://www.play-asia.com/paOS-13-71-m-49-en-70-2nut.html Is that price right? The HRAP2 was only $49.99, and they're doubling the price for the re-release?
4r5 Posted April 9, 2008 Posted April 9, 2008 that's the new Special Addition hrap2 with all sanwa parts the hrap2 you're referring to is out of production and only has a sanwa stick with hori buttons that fall apart under the mighty strikes of my johnny. and last I checked, they were still in the three digit range, unless you were really lucky
DJ Xero Posted April 10, 2008 Posted April 10, 2008 It was listed as $49.99 when it was on their site. I shouldn't have waited on it.
bucklemyshoe Posted April 13, 2008 Posted April 13, 2008 Im so buying that stick the day it's available. I'm see the 100.00 figure online but does anyone know what shipping will run?
SonOfHeaven Posted April 16, 2008 Posted April 16, 2008 I highly recommend buying an Byrdo stick if you got the cash. Mine just came in and it feels and plays real good. You have to go to his website byrdo.org to contact him.
bucklemyshoe Posted April 18, 2008 Posted April 18, 2008 http://www.play-asia.com/paOS-13-71-e-49-en-70-2nut-4-6.html is available now for about 245.00 with shipping. I was only planning 150.00 for this. Need to wait on my taxes, bahumbug.
Shazay Posted April 18, 2008 Author Posted April 18, 2008 http://www.play-asia.com/paOS-13-71-e-49-en-70-2nut-4-6.html is available now for about 245.00 with shipping. I was only planning 150.00 for this. Need to wait on my taxes, bahumbug. You know you could spend less for a BETTER custom stick right?
Gunraidan Posted April 18, 2008 Posted April 18, 2008 I want a stick to play Melty Blood, but it would even better if I could use it for my PS2 too. How does this fair you think? or this?
Shazay Posted April 18, 2008 Author Posted April 18, 2008 Neither of those are good but the best-cheapest Japanese one you could get is probably the Tekken 5 stick. I'm not sure how it fares with converters though (ps2 -> usb).
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