Star-Demon Posted December 4, 2011 Posted December 4, 2011 @Star-Demon Well, aside from just combo practice, the main thing that I see is that you really don't seem comfortable with the movement mechanics in this game. You really need to get your hopping and jumping (and their super forms) down, otherwise your options get much more limited. Super jump is hop in this game - it's so strange. I don't understand what the point is.
Vulcan422 Posted December 4, 2011 Posted December 4, 2011 Adel, Heidern, and Shion might possibly be future DLC. It's amazing what people can find by looking on the disc nowadays. It isn't.
Bolverk-GTM Posted December 4, 2011 Posted December 4, 2011 Super jump is hop in this game - it's so strange. I don't understand what the point is. Hops are used to maintain pressure and they're one of the most godlike answers to people that mash crouching pokes to get out of pressure. Say you run in and do a string of 3 cr.Bs, this puts you too far away to connect with a fourth one so you can either run back in or hop in with an air normal. Some players like to lay on cr.B mash or hit cr.D whenever they see an opening in pressure because they expect the other person to run back in. If you do a jump in, you're either going to overshoot them or you're just going to be a really easy anti-air, so instead you want to hop in to maintain your offense while beating their poke or sweep mashing. When you get them to stop poking or sweeping at openings, this lets you maintain offense by running back in so that you don't get too predictable with hop ins (they CAN be shut down by well timed fast anti-airs). It's really important to learn hopping and hyper hopping in KoF for this reason.
Chazmobile Posted December 4, 2011 Posted December 4, 2011 Adel, Heidern, and Shion might possibly be future DLC. [ATTACH=CONFIG]1218[/ATTACH] It's amazing what people can find by looking on the disc nowadays. It isn't. Dude if that's true then 'Fuck yes!'
Star-Demon Posted December 4, 2011 Posted December 4, 2011 Hops are used to maintain pressure and they're one of the most godlike answers to people that mash crouching pokes to get out of pressure. Say you run in and do a string of 3 cr.Bs, this puts you too far away to connect with a fourth one so you can either run back in or hop in with an air normal. Some players like to lay on cr.B mash or hit cr.D whenever they see an opening in pressure because they expect the other person to run back in. If you do a jump in, you're either going to overshoot them or you're just going to be a really easy anti-air, so instead you want to hop in to maintain your offense while beating their poke or sweep mashing. When you get them to stop poking or sweeping at openings, this lets you maintain offense by running back in so that you don't get too predictable with hop ins (they CAN be shut down by well timed fast anti-airs). It's really important to learn hopping and hyper hopping in KoF for this reason. Cool - Thanks! I wonder if there's a video that illustrates this? Maybe we should make some videos of it?
furix Posted December 4, 2011 Posted December 4, 2011 Sadly, in KoFXIII, the characters are too small so sometimes your hops will go over your opponent(Sometimes this causes unintentional cross ups lol). So you have to be more on point with the way you hop/hyper hop.
kazukifafner Posted December 4, 2011 Posted December 4, 2011 Cool - Thanks! I wonder if there's a video that illustrates this? Maybe we should make some videos of it? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r75Lz1Drp8g It uses KOF2002 as a basis, but the concepts are virtually identical in KOFXIII, so it should work.
BladeDiva Posted December 4, 2011 Posted December 4, 2011 Adel, Heidern, and Shion might possibly be future DLC. ...I just want Whip, so I can bust a cap in some of these characters. But that's incredibly unlikely given that the entire Ikari Warriors subplot is just an excuse to not let us have Whip and Leona in the same game. SNK are such teases!
Mightfo Posted December 4, 2011 Posted December 4, 2011 NEC KOF13 finals were awesome. It uses KOF2002 as a basis, but the concepts are virtually identical in KOFXIII, so it should work. pretty sure he's using 98, not 2002
Vulcan422 Posted December 4, 2011 Posted December 4, 2011 ...I just want Whip, so I can bust a cap in some of these characters. But that's incredibly unlikely given that the entire Ikari Warriors subplot is just an excuse to not let us have Whip and Leona in the same game. SNK are such teases! Whip is basically just Billy with a gun and Spider-Man's Web Swing, though. Her normals go a ridiculously long range, have wonky hitboxes, and above all else when she does the one attack that Billy has (where he goes up into the air and comes down from offscreen), she does this inhuman, siren-like scream that makes people deaf just by hearing it.
Starlight777 Posted December 4, 2011 Posted December 4, 2011 Uh sorry to burst your bubble, but I think those files are either for story mode text or trophy images. As much as I want Shion and Adel I don't think we're gonna get them.
Mightfo Posted December 4, 2011 Posted December 4, 2011 Uh sorry to burst your bubble, but I think those files are either for story mode text or trophy images. As much as I want Shion and Adel I don't think we're gonna get them. i thought this too but iirc on dreamcancel or srk someone posted a piece of uncolored art(from the disc?) of adelheld's victory screen pose, it seemed much like other victory screen art
Chazmobile Posted December 5, 2011 Posted December 5, 2011 i thought this too but iirc on dreamcancel or srk someone posted a piece of uncolored art(from the disc?) of adelheld's victory screen pose, it seemed much like other victory screen art I can confirm this, the art CD contains both his win pose art as well as what looks suspiciously like a character portrait.
Star-Demon Posted December 5, 2011 Posted December 5, 2011 I managed to do Vice's second trial... My thumbs are sore. I can't do the others...Jesus.
Starlight777 Posted December 5, 2011 Posted December 5, 2011 I can confirm this, the art CD contains both his win pose art as well as what looks suspiciously like a character portrait. I've just seen them too. Here's a fun fact, go look on the other win pose arts in the gallery and you'll see that they are drawn from the top half only just like his one. If anything he was planned to be in this game, but probably was cut due to either time constraints or other problems. I hope he's announced after these EX characters, I really could have done without one of them.
Vulcan422 Posted December 5, 2011 Posted December 5, 2011 Just curious, was there art like that on the disc for anybody else besides Adel and/or possibly Heidern/Shion?
Mightfo Posted December 5, 2011 Posted December 5, 2011 but probably was cut due to either time constraints or other problems. similar case with billy etc before iirc I hope he's announced after these EX characters, I really could have done without one of them. classic iori and "NESTS" kyo are gdlk, stay bald
Starlight777 Posted December 5, 2011 Posted December 5, 2011 similar case with billy etc before iirc classic iori and "NESTS" kyo are gdlk, stay bald Stay bald? But I am hairy as fuck! Anyway I meant Mr.Karate. I'm buying EX Iori and I'm beginning to hate EX Kyo less and less as time goes on. Mr.Karate just looks redundant to me despite the gameplay change.
Bolverk-GTM Posted December 5, 2011 Posted December 5, 2011 Cool - Thanks! I wonder if there's a video that illustrates this? Maybe we should make some videos of it? I could do it pretty easily, I guess. It'll have to wait until tomorrow though.
BladeDiva Posted December 5, 2011 Posted December 5, 2011 she does this inhuman, siren-like scream that makes people deaf just by hearing it. You say that like it's not mind-blowingly hot.
Vulcan422 Posted December 5, 2011 Posted December 5, 2011 It's not. In 2002 onward it got better but it's still unattractive. C. Viper's death scream in SF4, now that's hot.
Starlight777 Posted December 5, 2011 Posted December 5, 2011 Eww, Viper's is just bad. That sound Whip makes can't be as glass breaking as Viper can it? I got my first hatemail and ragequit today, I feel wonderful.
Bolverk-GTM Posted December 5, 2011 Posted December 5, 2011 Eww, Viper's is just bad. That sound Whip makes can't be as glass breaking as Viper can it? You'd be surprised. But you know who's death scream is more glass breaking than both of them? Akiha Vermillion. I feel like I lose every time I beat a V.Akiha because I have to hear that fucking death scream of hers.
Starlight777 Posted December 5, 2011 Posted December 5, 2011 You'd be surprised. But you know who's death scream is more glass breaking than both of them? Akiha Vermillion. I feel like I lose every time I beat a V.Akiha because I have to hear that fucking death scream of hers. Jesus, that's approaching "Bloody Roar 4 Alice" levels of deafening.
Chris Chaos Posted December 5, 2011 Posted December 5, 2011 Hey guys, just decided to post up a video I made. My first combo video ever.
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