eirei Posted November 19, 2010 Posted November 19, 2010 Ragna no longer being able to do anything with 6A Dr. eirei diagnoses a critical lack of jump cancels in this combo.
Blade Posted November 19, 2010 Posted November 19, 2010 If he could land GH>5B>5D or GH>5B>5C after Throw, it wouldn't bother me so much.
RadRed Posted November 19, 2010 Posted November 19, 2010 if we can get a few MORE damage nerfs, redo noel's drive from the ground up, remove arakune and tech rolls from the game, and by god we'll have ourselves a new toy to play with! I have to admit. I laughed at the boldface portion.
A.X.I.S. Posted November 19, 2010 Posted November 19, 2010 remove arakune and tech rolls from the game LOL remove arakune...I like this guy. I agree with tech roll removal, shit is dumb.
Butters Posted November 19, 2010 Posted November 19, 2010 If he could land GH>5B>5D or GH>5B>5C after Throw, it wouldn't bother me so much. ... He can land GH > 5B > 6A. Like he ALWAYS could. And he can still jump cancel 6A. So there is ABSOLUTELY NO PROBLEM.
Remiri Posted November 19, 2010 Posted November 19, 2010 Guard crush 720 Guard crush 720 everywhere. I hate to say it but I am slightly hype for this game, Trolling is gonna be way easier than ever before and the best part is everyone will go back to hating tager again. People stopped hating tager?
Blade Posted November 19, 2010 Posted November 19, 2010 ... He can land GH > 5B > 6A. Like he ALWAYS could. And he can still jump cancel 6A. So there is ABSOLUTELY NO PROBLEM. Mind clarifying this, then: "- 6A cannot gatling into anything anymore" I misunderstood it to mean all its good for is anti-air>jump cancel. If it can be cancelled IN TO (i.e. 5B>6A), but no normals can cancel FROM it (i.e. 6A>3C on block)...that'd help clarify.
eirei Posted November 19, 2010 Posted November 19, 2010 Gatling into Gatling into Gatling into I hope I've clarified it.
KayEff Posted November 19, 2010 Posted November 19, 2010 6A can't gatling into anything. But from what I know that doesn't mean anything can't gatling into 6A. If I recall correctly, they still kept the 5B > 6A gatling. Edit: ninja'd
Blade Posted November 19, 2010 Posted November 19, 2010 Well, IIRC 6A>6B was pretty useless outside of blockstrings.
mAc Chaos Posted November 19, 2010 Posted November 19, 2010 I like the tech roll system of the game. It makes it have a different feel than other fighters. There are already a ton of ways to punish rolls anyway. That's why you have to neutral tech most of the time.
eirei Posted November 19, 2010 Posted November 19, 2010 There should be a dizzy meter in the game. It starts out empty and drains slowly. Every time you tech roll, it fills up, and the drain speed decreases for a while. When it fills up completely, you become dizzy and your controls are inverted. Man, ASW should totally hire me. I'll go mail my ideas to Mori right now.
faultydefense Posted November 19, 2010 Posted November 19, 2010 I feel the game NEEDED damage nerfs, i hope that's not contested. The game as a whole though really favored the defensive for the longest time, I can't say for sure if ti'll be like that after these balance patches, but if it is we're gonna be dealing with a lot of time-outs for a lot of match-ups. Give characters true-oki instead of turning most wake-ups into guessing games, and you'll allow the game to be more offense oriented without rolling over people's defense. At the moment, a lot of characters just have to sit and watch to see what the person on the ground is going to do. Sure they can follow a roll in an attempt to get the wake-up pressure they earned, but a lot of them deserve to be able to set-up some kind of meaty. I miss being able to do overheads on some1's wake-up you know? As opposed to just chasing down fuckers with 2A, or trying to figure out if they neutral teched, or quick teched. You're taking away waaay too much power from the person on offense, while arbitraily giving it to characters like ragna or litchi who just have all encompasing moves that will eat any tech. Even that though is removing the thought process just to get someone to block.
eirei Posted November 19, 2010 Posted November 19, 2010 If you continue rolling after getting dizzy the bar goes up to eleven and you start vomiting, I guess.
LuminAbyss Posted November 19, 2010 Posted November 19, 2010 There should be random tripping too. lolsmashbrawl
A.X.I.S. Posted November 19, 2010 Posted November 19, 2010 Snip. I completely and wholeheartedly agree with you. I hope BB turns into this, lord knows how many years it would take for me to be decent at GG.
RadRed Posted November 19, 2010 Posted November 19, 2010 There should be random tripping too. Hahahahaha. I really don't get the thought process behind that decision for Smash Bros. at all.
A.X.I.S. Posted November 19, 2010 Posted November 19, 2010 They were trying to keep Brawl from being competitive. moving on, I am digging the system changes, tager will actually start being decent, IB nerf won't hurt his IB 720 game too much and finally something new to bitch at when a top tier shows up. Brand new game, brand new things for DL to whine about.
Remiri Posted November 19, 2010 Posted November 19, 2010 There should be random tripping too. GRAAAAAAH
Kuuhaku Posted November 19, 2010 Posted November 19, 2010 At least the stuff CS2 is bringing sounds pretty interesting. I wonder what other surprises Mori has. He's also somewhere in Japan sitting in an office chair, his hands folded Gendo Ikari style and only one thought on his mind- KEIKAKU DOORI. I'm also still hoping that they make Rachel's 5CC a corner bound thing, but... her throw is fine. I'll actually have to learn tick throw setups now.
Remiri Posted November 19, 2010 Posted November 19, 2010 There should be a dizzy meter in the game. It starts out empty and drains slowly. Every time you tech roll, it fills up, and the drain speed decreases for a while. When it fills up completely, you become dizzy and your controls are inverted. Man, ASW should totally hire me. I'll go mail my ideas to Mori right now. If you tech roll, you lose a primer. Real talk
Tachyons Posted November 19, 2010 Posted November 19, 2010 With this many changes in gameplay, I HIGHLY doubt console gets a patch let alone a free update.
Andarel Posted November 19, 2010 Posted November 19, 2010 With this many changes in gameplay, I HIGHLY doubt console gets a patch let alone a free update. Still a balance patch. Just some pretty hardcore balance changes. We didn't know what to expect anyways, they had talked a lot about a (originally presumably free) patch, and they can't make the game different from the arcade version. So...
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