LK's GAMEPLAY RELATED QUESTIONS ONLY cs2

[A.X.I.S.]

Taicho is like a less solid LK.

[MrViceTaicho]

Taicho is like a less solid LK.

True that.need to learn the game cuz now im just copying and pasting good litchi' player of japan.lol

[zeth07]

LK, do you think characters that have "Mode" Distortions are meant to be played with that as a basis or goal of their match strategy?

Obviously there are individual player styles and maybe match-ups that make them ineffective, but if we just look at the character's tools and gameplay mechanics by design, do you think that's how they were intended to be played or should be played?

And regarding that, do you think they should make changes to put more emphasis on using the mode playstyles? I guess more so in the ones we don't see often ( Hakumen / Tsubaki ) since Bang, Ragna, and Taokaka actually put theirs to use from time to time and I guess Platinum kinda does as well every once in a while.

Or do you think it's better to just have them as an alternative playstyle and less like Arakune needing Curse?

Reposting cause I'd like to hear your opinion about this topic since I guess you missed it. Unless you didn't feel like answering it which is ok, lol.

[André]

I have 2 questions about your Tier List...why is Bang listed above the mentioned characters and why is Mu so low?

[Lord Knight]

Reposting cause I'd like to hear your opinion about this topic since I guess you missed it. Unless you didn't feel like answering it which is ok, lol.

Oh sorry, I thought I answered this.

Anyway, I like characters with some sort of alternate mode because it gives them much more options. More options = more ways that they can be played, and more strategy to be developed. It is pretty dependent on what kind of mechanic they have - like with Arakune it's pretty obvious that his goal is only to go into curse (ie, the goal of his match strategy), but take a character like Litchi, you can choose to hold her staff or set it and use it as a projectile + gain access to a different set or moves, or Hazama who can vary his movement quite drastically with chains (and they way they move definitely varies from player to player) - I feel like these characters still have a way to be played, but each player can put a much different spin on it. But even characters that are simpler and linear can be played differently, just because they are simple doesn't mean everyone will use the same set of tools the same way.

I have 2 questions about your Tier List...why is Bang listed above the mentioned characters and why is Mu so low?

Bang has been explored a lot and he's actually pretty good, he has high corner damage, good nearish corner > corner carry, strong mixup and pretty good neutral (despite some problems against certain characters). However there's a dead zone midscreen where he has problems carrying to the corner, which hurts, and his damage can be pretty low there. I also think Bang does exceptionally well against Valk compared to the rest of the cast, and does well against everyone listed below him. Most of the characters above him are his traditional bad matchups.

Mu has pretty good damage, high max damage and pretty decent corner carry, but most of the top characters are good at shutting down her game plan before it starts, or are able to fend her off even when she has zoning set up. I wouldn't say Mu is "low", the cast is very strong this time and even the lower ranked ones are threatening.

[superscience890]

When is your next vlog? I began watching it like a couple days ago and it's pretty interesting.

[Nemesis]

Hey LK we played a bit the other night, if you can shed some light on perhaps some bad habits or a few words of improvement I would appreciate it. At your convience of course

[NeoGio0o]

This will probably be the best question on the thread...

LK do you have a mic? And why are all BB players so bad at starting conversation?

[Star-Demon]

And why are all BB players so bad at starting conversation?

Talk to casuals like me. We actually talk and stuff.

[superscience890]

So I had a interview with LK on Friday for a class of mine. Thought I would put it up here. It was mainly for class, but there are some stuff that other people may find interesting. The first 30-40 minutes are about Japan and arcade and then it moves to Blazblue, and other fighitng games, and then at about an hour in, it derails hard. Keep in mind it's a very casual interview so it's not very formal, but it's there.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5g32qYhunCI

[E3vE3 WAZ HEA]

And why are all BB players so bad at starting conversation?

imo its about how many people are there, if theres only two ppl, its going to die down really quick, if theres at least three or more then its a party start with hi how are you, it usually esculates from there

Edited December 12, 2011 by E3vE3 WAZ HEA

[A.X.I.S.]

And why are all BB players so bad at starting conversation?

I never met any BB players that are bad at conversation except for mutes.

[KayEff]

I never met any BB players that are bad at conversation except for mutes.

come talk to me, i'm actually incredibly terrible at conversation

[LuminAbyss]

come talk to me, i'm actually incredibly terrible at conversation

Don't worry, I'll carry the conversation for you.

[BeaverDeity]

This will probably be the best question on the thread...

LK do you have a mic? And why are all BB players so bad at starting conversation?

BB players are bad at starting conversations? Never met anyone that was like that, lol

[Lord Knight]

When is your next vlog? I began watching it like a couple days ago and it's pretty interesting.

I've started back up, practicing/irl stuff kept me from doing it. As usual, it's here.

Hey LK we played a bit the other night, if you can shed some light on perhaps some bad habits or a few words of improvement I would appreciate it. At your convience of course

Way too abare in my opinion, if you're going to play like that you should try mashing 2A occasionally, because midlevel players will just try to bait your dp's and stuff. Dash DP is only good vs Valkenhayn in my opinion. It's really risky, but if you mixed in normal DP more then it'd work. Also, I think you buckle under pressure too much, 2A > 2C was beating your jump outs a lot. Overall just try calming down a bit on defense - you just want them off you, you don't necessarily want to hit them.

This will probably be the best question on the thread...

LK do you have a mic? And why are all BB players so bad at starting conversation?

I have one, but I leave it off most of the time.

A good chunk of BB players are otaku I guess? I don't know, most players I've met at tourneys are rather socialable.

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That's more or less it for the CS2 thread. I'm going to open an EX thread relatively soon.

[gli]

Unexpected, but thanks for exposing me via match analysis.

I honestly wouldn't know a lot of the mistakes I made watching a match replay by myself.

[Lord Knight]

Yeah, like I said I wanted to use just organic matches, most of the replays I save are just me styling on people.

Hopefully you got some ideas! The matches were pretty fun too

[gli]

Mostly I realized my approach to applying match-up knowledge is weak. Once you broke down your own match-up notes into sub-goals I think I have an idea of where I should go now.

[Lord Knight]

Hm, that's pretty interesting.

The thing is like to me, for zoners I feel like their matchups is mostly tweaking how they should zone depending on the other characters tools. I could see how you could overlook certain points of matchups.

[TD]

interesting match vid this week.

lk, do you plan on playing on psn in the future?

[Star-Demon]

Is it really viable to use mantenbo to mess with other character's projectiles? I've found it helps me get in on Hazama, Rachel, and sometimes Jin, but it's very spotty and I'm thinking it's just not the right way to staff cover...

[Lord Knight]

interesting match vid this week.

lk, do you plan on playing on psn in the future?

PSN lags too randomly, and that's the thing I hate the most. I remember playing vs you online and raging pretty hard lol, it was way more fun when you came out to WB.

Is it really viable to use mantenbo to mess with other character's projectiles? I've found it helps me get in on Hazama, Rachel, and sometimes Jin, but it's very spotty and I'm thinking it's just not the right way to staff cover...

It's very good to use the staff to clash with projectiles, but not so much with riichiB. You just need to get used to timing/spacing/which way you should set the staff, and it depends on the kind of player you're playing against.

[E3vE3 WAZ HEA]

i was playing a bit earlier let me paint a picture

im blocking have no bursts, staff is too far (so im not holding it) i dont have the meter to CA and im stuck blocking in the corner.

question: WHAT DO I DO

sub question: (if i do have a burst, CA, and the staff) whats the best way to use it and NOT get baited cuz lord knows i get baited almost all the time TT_TT

[Lord Knight]

Just block. Wait for an opportunity to safely jump out or try to counterpoke. This highly relies on knowing your opponents gatlings. Also when you're in that situation, they'll probably be styling on you, so you might find it easier to jump out.