Jourdal Posted November 20, 2011 Posted November 20, 2011 I can't deal with it lol, i have a mountain of personal shit to deal with, which is why i turned off comments on monday. I came home and some ragna player on an alt account (i have a fairly good idea who he is) called me a bitch because i "block people who beat me in debates about kaqn",which is bullshit. You can't beat me in a debate if you don't have the common sense to realize that no one wins 100% of the time. Would you believe i uploaded 7 excerpts from a tachikawa set. The one of kaqn losing to a noel is the only one getting a dislike...like really :V? It's also why i tend to ignore chariot sets these days because it's only when kaqn is involved that this becomes a problem. Even daigo fans are more ready to admit he's been blown up over a kaqn fan (shoutouts to poongko). But eh...plays the most simple overused character + shows up in a lot of videos...i suppose it's "natural". World knows Tetsu is (or i guess was) my favorite jin...but if he gets blown up? Well i take it as a lesson on how not to play this matchup, if its a close match? Then I'm sure there's 4-5 combos i can steal. I'm not going to come up with a mountain of excuses....I'm positive i've heard someone assume Kaqn was sick because he was dropping "too many combos" or he's not taking these matches seriously because he's bored.....the fuck? So yeah...I sorta go out of the way to help this community out...even though cant give a 1/16th of a fuck about BB atm so when you come home from a BS day of school and see that...it gets on your nerves. I don't want overabundant praise hell tbh i would have been FINE w/o the award, i didn't do it for some net fame i just wanted to help out in a way i could. My bad for that...went on longer than i should have /end rant.
Haven Posted November 20, 2011 Posted November 20, 2011 I can't deal with it lol, i have a mountain of personal shit to deal with, which is why i turned off comments on monday. I came home and some ragna player on an alt account (i have a fairly good idea who he is) called me a bitch because i "block people who beat me in debates about kaqn",which is bullshit. You can't beat me in a debate if you don't have the common sense to realize that no one wins 100% of the time. Would you believe i uploaded 7 excerpts from a tachikawa set. The one of kaqn losing to a noel is the only one getting a dislike...like really :V? It's also why i tend to ignore chariot sets these days because it's only when kaqn is involved that this becomes a problem. Even daigo fans are more ready to admit he's been blown up over a kaqn fan (shoutouts to poongko). But eh...plays the most simple overused character + shows up in a lot of videos...i suppose it's "natural". World knows Tetsu is (or i guess was) my favorite jin...but if he gets blown up? Well i take it as a lesson on how not to play this matchup, if its a close match? Then I'm sure there's 4-5 combos i can steal. I'm not going to come up with a mountain of excuses....I'm positive i've heard someone assume Kaqn was sick because he was dropping "too many combos" or he's not taking these matches seriously because he's bored.....the fuck? So yeah...I sorta go out of the way to help this community out...even though cant give a 1/16th of a fuck about BB atm so when you come home from a BS day of school and see that...it gets on your nerves. I don't want overabundant praise hell tbh i would have been FINE w/o the award, i didn't do it for some net fame i just wanted to help out in a way i could. My bad for that...went on longer than i should have /end rant. Lmao it's alright, stupidity makes me angry too. :P Besides, you have to let the steam out somewhere. Something like BB should never make you angry to the point where it starts effecting you IRL, so it's better to let the rage out where it belongs, lol. It's just so funny because at least Daigo is really good, Kaqn really isn't even one of the best players lol... I don't get the whole Kaqn love thing, it's honestly stupid lol. I remember when Tetsu fought Hima, all I could think was "Damn, Tetsu got blown up." I have players I really like watching, but it's not like I really know them or vice versa, I am not going to be "sad" if Kaqn loses rofl. Like I said before, I really appreciate the vids, they definitely have always helped me out.
LuminAbyss Posted November 20, 2011 Posted November 20, 2011 I feel for you man Jourdal. I really appreciate all the work you do getting these videos to us man. I really do. And on the topic of players, it's not the players losing that makes me sad. It's the character. My heart goes "Awww...." everytime I see a Ragna lose ; w ; or Bang.
Moy_X7 Posted November 20, 2011 Posted November 20, 2011 Iunno. Looks like he needs to be really close for most of his shit to work now unless you're near corner. Yeah, I've seen that you have to be right next to the opponent for 6C > 2D to work. We have to do 6A > RC > dashing 5C now if we want 6C > 2D to work mid-screen. So we're stuck with 5C > 6C > 214C on crouching opponents if we're not at 5B (2-hits) range, that's about 1K worth of damage dropped. With the 6C nerf, we're losing 500 to over 1K potential damage mid-screen as well as corner carriage.
Jourdal Posted November 20, 2011 Posted November 20, 2011 (edited) Well...i can understand that...if they lose..you won't be seeing them for the rest of the event but..eh. @Haven, it's a simple explanation that dates back to CT. Look up CT videos, 90% of them will be gamechariot, and most from some summer game chariot events pre SBO 09. Kaqn is all up and through them, other ragnas appear...but its mostly a white clad one you're going to fine. So people think...well he's all over videos clearly its because he's the best. When i started in CS1...i uploaded almost everything but i only knew chariot players by name and at the time the other good ragnas had no exposure (Sekido is good but is rare, and acho has their own channel so i leave their stuff alone and people dont see Ribaia). Come late CS1/CS2 when me and later pktazn tried to cover every event and expose other good players..the damage is done. If you look at my view counts, chariot gets more comments, views and likes than any other set, even ones with superior players like that Alpha station stream i ripped that had fucking tetsu/goro/konan/minami etc. @Moy, i remember reading a lot of his midscreen paths look character specific :V. We have Marcell who'll be playing this in arcades soon (lucky ) to give us much needed in depth insight. Edited November 20, 2011 by Jourdal
Moy_X7 Posted November 20, 2011 Posted November 20, 2011 That's good to know, I hope he brings home some good news lol.
Yuushiro Posted November 20, 2011 Author Posted November 20, 2011 lol... I am once again the American hope.... the American hero........ yay... so much weights on my shoulder lol......
Scottie Yosh Posted November 20, 2011 Posted November 20, 2011 Yuushiro so anime lmao. Goes well with the avatar though.
Yuushiro Posted November 20, 2011 Author Posted November 20, 2011 I AM A REAL LIFE ANIME, NIGGA... I AM GOKU..... THE FATE OF THE EARTH LIES IN MY HAND
Jourdal Posted November 20, 2011 Posted November 20, 2011 Man.... people talking about switching to ragna people talking about switching to Haz people talking about dropping BB people talking about switching to KoF i can't blame you for any of these choices The once proud clan of Ice Fairies, making our opponents burst the minute we get them in a DP loop setup, watching as they cower when we land CH 6C (anywhere on screen). The salt you can feel through your TV/Monitor as you did a CH ice arrow 5K side swap combo to victory. The room disbanded message you saw as they grew salty from your abuse of our overhead...gentlemen, those days are but distant memories. Our wings...have been clipped. clearly I'm bored as shit, should be doing HW/studying
LuminAbyss Posted November 20, 2011 Posted November 20, 2011 I don't know man, I still can't react to Jin's 6A. You can all still abuse it on me to relive those older days of Jin's youth.
Yuushiro Posted November 20, 2011 Author Posted November 20, 2011 6a still doesn't lead to anything on normal hit... without rapid....
LuminAbyss Posted November 20, 2011 Posted November 20, 2011 I really really think they should at least give it a link or gatling of some sort. It's kinda silly since everyone else can combo meterlessly off their overhead. It's not like 6A is an overly powerful move either, you know? Doesn't it currently have average proration? :/
Jourdal Posted November 20, 2011 Posted November 20, 2011 I found that list thanks to a kind soul on twitter...its kinda funny, but of course tentative...I'm pretty sure we're all mature and wont have stupid ass tier discussions lol (as it what happened the last 8 times there was a list). S tier Laguna? that can't last. http://jbbs.livedoor.jp/bbs/read.cgi/game/45148/1320582506/1 S : valkenhayn, ragna A : hakumen, hazama, bang, carl, taokaka, arakune B : relius, mu, rachel, Lambda, tager, platinum C : jin noel, Litchi D : tsubaki,makoto
Tong Posted November 20, 2011 Posted November 20, 2011 I thought Mu was supposed to be much better than that. Ragna is solid, he can probably be only topped off by Haku And christ, how come Makoto is weaker than Tsu (almost no footage) NOL has fallen...
Solex Posted November 20, 2011 Posted November 20, 2011 The once proud clan of Ice Fairies, making our opponents burst the minute we get them in a DP loop setup, watching as they cower when we land CH 6C (anywhere on screen). The salt you can feel through your TV/Monitor as you did a CH ice arrow 5K side swap combo to victory. The room disbanded message you saw as they grew salty from your abuse of our overhead...gentlemen, those days are but distant memories. Our wings...have been clipped. this... is... GODLIKE! lol
mAc Chaos Posted November 21, 2011 Posted November 21, 2011 I found that list thanks to a kind soul on twitter...its kinda funny, but of course tentative...I'm pretty sure we're all mature and wont have stupid ass tier discussions lol (as it what happened the last 8 times there was a list). S tier Laguna? that can't last. http://jbbs.livedoor.jp/bbs/read.cgi/game/45148/1320582506/1 S : valkenhayn, ragna A : hakumen, hazama, bang, carl, taokaka, arakune B : relius, mu, rachel, Lambda, tager, platinum C : jin noel, Litchi D : tsubaki,makotowhys everybody want to switch, because jin is C? pft. jins always had the tools to deal with what he has to. you guys are good enough to handle that. you just have to worry about getting random'd out by makoto style characters.
Jourdal Posted November 21, 2011 Posted November 21, 2011 I can't switch, 3 years are invested into this character lol. He could be tager tier for all i care...i just want him to be fun to play/watch. So far he hasn't been the latter.
Haven Posted November 21, 2011 Posted November 21, 2011 whys everybody want to switch, because jin is C? pft. jins always had the tools to deal with what he has to. you guys are good enough to handle that. you just have to worry about getting random'd out by makoto style characters. I am pretty sure I am going to still kick ass with Jin, I just fear he is going to get boring with the lack of creativity. I am still playing him though, I just want Haz back in the game as well because he is fun.
Moy_X7 Posted November 21, 2011 Posted November 21, 2011 I'm probably going to go back to subbing Platinum since she's a viable character now. I'll give Relius a try but I don't like the fact that he's pretty much useless without his blow up doll, for God's sakes the guy can't even combo on his own :/
xlolxlolx Posted November 21, 2011 Posted November 21, 2011 wtf s tier ragna? isnt he the same as cs2 but without the bk combos?
C0R Posted November 21, 2011 Posted November 21, 2011 Lol. To be a true japanese scrublist it needs to not include Mu, Arakune, and have a Moe meter on the side.
Jourdal Posted November 21, 2011 Posted November 21, 2011 wtf s tier ragna? isnt he the same as cs2 but without the bk combos? He has rad 6B combos now, and lost his swag 22C>5A dash combos w/o fatal. @C0R :3
BatousaiJ Posted November 21, 2011 Posted November 21, 2011 Oh you Jin guys. So moody. So easily misled. No wonder Ragna keeps getting away.
Chris Chaos Posted November 21, 2011 Posted November 21, 2011 I AM A REAL LIFE ANIME, NIGGA... I AM GOKU..... THE FATE OF THE EARTH LIES IN MY HAND I would sig this if my other sig wasn't as awesome as this quote. clearly I'm bored as shit, should be doing HW/studying I should be doing this too but I feel so demotivated to do anything ATM. I lost 120 bucks over a taxi ride that wasn't necessary because someone told me I had to be somewhere an hour earlier than expected... If I took the train for 7 bucks, I would have been fine but nope. Hell they won't even reimburse me for my losses when they are supposed to but due to some rule written in their manual, they won't... FML! S : valkenhayn, ragna A : hakumen, hazama, bang, carl, taokaka, arakune B : relius, mu, rachel, Lambda, tager, platinum C : jin noel, Litchi D : tsubaki,makoto Wow, I never thought I'd see the day that Tager would be a higher tier than Jin... This expansion is gonna suck for us Jin main's. Then again, the game just came out and this list is probably going to change once people get their characters down. whys everybody want to switch, because jin is C? pft. jins always had the tools to deal with what he has to. you guys are good enough to handle that. you just have to worry about getting random'd out by makoto style characters. I'm not switching characters, I'll play Jin no matter what. It's just that a more interesting game is coming out (KOF XIII, YES!), and I'll be slacking on BB because of it Oh you Jin guys. So moody. So easily misled. No wonder Ragna keeps getting away. Nah, not moody, just surprised and taking all this shock in at once. Things will settle down in a little bit though.
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