pktazn Posted October 27, 2011 Author Posted October 27, 2011 It doesn't hurt to give impressions on what you're seeing though. Videos are scarce but you can still see noticeable differences from CS2 (both gameplay and in general as well as for other characters not pertaining to Tsu) and it's not like you lose anything by posting what you see and your opinion on it.
HajinShinobi Posted October 27, 2011 Posted October 27, 2011 (edited) It doesn't hurt to give impressions on what you're seeing though. Videos are scarce but you can still see noticeable differences from CS2 (both gameplay and in general as well as for other characters not pertaining to Tsu) and it's not like you lose anything by posting what you see and your opinion on it. I didnt say I would be losing out on anything by not posting. I'm just not one that needs to post as much when there isnt much given to us yet. I've just been watching what you and other people have been uploading. Anyway, I wonder what we can get off of an FC 6A, and FC 3C for that matter. Edited October 27, 2011 by HajinShinobi
pktazn Posted October 27, 2011 Author Posted October 27, 2011 (edited) That's fine, but there's no need to take things so personally. I was saying in general that people shouldn't be afraid to post what they think about her from what they're seeing in general since only a few are really posting their impressions on EX Tsubaki though it's mostly in the video discussion thread (which is ok btw). Will people agree or disagree? Probably but that's what this forum is for, discussion on Tsubaki regardless of what happens to her and BB in general. I know it's pretty intimidating to post something about her since it may or may not be true but that's where discussion of what we can/could/can't do comes from as well as ideas of what we can try out when we finally have a chance. For the record: I still think she'll be fine (not CS2 status) but there are a lot of things with her that I've seen so far that appear iffy. However, everything that I've thought was iffy was due to me thinking of how I would approach the other person and how I would have tried this instead of that or modified it to possibly make it work or make it better. This is purely opinion from what I've seen but want to see some more Extend knowledge if that makes sense. EDIT: I'm not exactly sure of what we can do with FC 6A yet but like Errol said maybe we could do a B DP whiff from it. FC 3C from Kuresu vs Hane we can go into 6CC > air combo so that will be fun to experiment with. Edited October 27, 2011 by pktazn
Tsubaki 5B Posted October 28, 2011 Posted October 28, 2011 That's fine, but there's no need to take things so personally. I was saying in general that people shouldn't be afraid to post what they think about her from what they're seeing in general since only a few are really posting their impressions on EX Tsubaki though it's mostly in the video discussion thread (which is ok btw). Will people agree or disagree? Probably but that's what this forum is for, discussion on Tsubaki regardless of what happens to her and BB in general. I know it's pretty intimidating to post something about her since it may or may not be true but that's where discussion of what we can/could/can't do comes from as well as ideas of what we can try out when we finally have a chance. For the record: I still think she'll be fine (not CS2 status) but there are a lot of things with her that I've seen so far that appear iffy. However, everything that I've thought was iffy was due to me thinking of how I would approach the other person and how I would have tried this instead of that or modified it to possibly make it work or make it better. This is purely opinion from what I've seen but want to see some more Extend knowledge if that makes sense. EDIT: I'm not exactly sure of what we can do with FC 6A yet but like Errol said maybe we could do a B DP whiff from it. FC 3C from Kuresu vs Hane we can go into 6CC > air combo so that will be fun to experiment with. well said pk thats are mod as for the 6a FC B dp whiff is certainly possible however most likely cannot be done if you are to close
Tsubaki 5B Posted October 28, 2011 Posted October 28, 2011 How about: FC 6A - 5C - 6C? hmm that's interesting i'm not to sure on this but with that you could FC 6A-5C-6CC-623C-236A(W)-214D off that it's just a guess really but it seems possible what do you guys think?
HajinShinobi Posted October 28, 2011 Posted October 28, 2011 (edited) I though 623C > j.214A(w) didnt work in extend because 623C having less untechable time? Wouldnt it be 623B instead? Edited October 28, 2011 by HajinShinobi
pktazn Posted October 28, 2011 Author Posted October 28, 2011 (edited) I thought I saw 623C > j.214B(w). I'll double check the videos though. EDIT: Yea in the yumura ( tager) VS pawafuru ( tsubaki ) match in the beginning, I'm pretty sure I see 623C > j.214B(w) > air combo, so it may be possible to get to that from a FC 6A. Edited October 28, 2011 by pktazn
BatousaiJ Posted October 28, 2011 Posted October 28, 2011 Yes for jc combo enders but not for j.236A(w) combos from what I've noticed. 6A FC > 5C > 6CC would be great but I'm not sure if that'll work. It certainly would increase the damage ceiling for what we can do off a 6A without a charge if it does though with 6A FC > 5C > 6CC > 623B > j.214A > j.C > j.CC > j.236A > j.214C in mid screen and much more in the corner being available which should probably work. Still, I doubt we'll have many situations where we can finish for counters with a slow overhead of all things. I think our most used FC starter will most likely be 3C from now on which is actually kind of interesting because you can get a 3C hit off on enemies that are on recovery even if it has strong push back where dashing 6C would've been way too slow to monopolize on the scenario. 3C FC might be more valuable than we think and given the proration is somewhere close to what it is now, we should be able to get a great deal of damage off of it.
Tsubaki 5B Posted October 28, 2011 Posted October 28, 2011 I thought I saw 623C > j.214B(w). I'll double check the videos though. EDIT: Yea in the yumura ( tager) VS pawafuru ( tsubaki ) match in the beginning, I'm pretty sure I see 623C > j.214B(w) > air combo, so it may be possible to get to that from a FC 6A. i see ok thats cool so the combo isn't completely gone just instead of 214A we use 214B and for dp 623C or 623B
Airk Posted October 28, 2011 Posted October 28, 2011 For the record: I still think she'll be fine (not CS2 status) See, I have trouble reconciling this statement. According to me and every Tier List I've ever seen, CS2 Tsubaki was pretty much appearing in the dictionary the picture next to 'Fine'. So as soon as we stop reaching CS2 status, IMHO, we have left "fine" and are now "not fine". I realize other characters have been nerfed, but I got to their forums and I read the lists and they are, by and large, NOTHING like what we're seeing. (Though apparently Platinum sucks now? or something? ) EDIT: I'm not exactly sure of what we can do with FC 6A yet but like Errol said maybe we could do a B DP whiff from it. FC 3C from Kuresu vs Hane we can go into 6CC > air combo so that will be fun to experiment with. I thought we were able to do 3C CH > 5C?
pktazn Posted October 28, 2011 Author Posted October 28, 2011 And that's fine. It's my opinion and I know not everyone will share it. The other forums don't seem anything like ours because they're maintaining a positive look on their character imo. I do not know about FC 3C > 5C in Extend.
Rishtopher Posted October 28, 2011 Posted October 28, 2011 The other forums don't seem anything like ours because they're maintaining a positive look on their character imo. Have you ever been to the Carl boards? We complain 24/7, you cannot satisfy us lol. I actually think Tsubaki is pretty hype in CSX. Although to be fair, I JUST started trying to learn her so it's not like I can tell if she's better/worse. From what I've seen, she looks fine to me though.
BatousaiJ Posted October 28, 2011 Posted October 28, 2011 And that's fine. It's my opinion and I know not everyone will share it. The other forums don't seem anything like ours because they're maintaining a positive look on their character imo. I do not know about FC 3C > 5C in Extend. Just some are more negative than most. I do believe I've seen FC 3C > 5C© and FC 3C > 6CC so the ground untechable time after 3C should be significant. We might even be able to 3C FC > 5D > 2B > 2CC pickup.
pktazn Posted October 28, 2011 Author Posted October 28, 2011 Yea the only one I'm sure about is FC 3C > 6CC since I can't remember seeing FC 3C > 5C© off the top of my head, though technically it wouldn't be impossible for 5C to connect especially since it's faster. I like the idea of FC 3C > 5D > 2B > 2CC pickup. That'd be hella sexy. What would make it sexier is if it could go into the IAD combo for corner carry as well. Extend come out here sooner than February for the U.S. FFFFF
BatousaiJ Posted October 28, 2011 Posted October 28, 2011 Yea the only one I'm sure about is FC 3C > 6CC since I can't remember seeing FC 3C > 5C© off the top of my head, though technically it wouldn't be impossible for 5C to connect especially since it's faster. I like the idea of FC 3C > 5D > 2B > 2CC pickup. That'd be hella sexy. What would make it sexier is if it could go into the IAD combo for corner carry as well. Extend come out here sooner than February for the U.S. FFFFF IAD combo should be a given at that point but we won't know until someone actually does it. Decemeber~
Airk Posted October 28, 2011 Posted October 28, 2011 And that's fine. It's my opinion and I know not everyone will share it. The other forums don't seem anything like ours because they're maintaining a positive look on their character imo. I'm not talking about the forums attitude, I'm just talking about the "here's a list of nerfs and buffs" posts. I do not know about FC 3C > 5C in Extend. + FC 3C > 5CC works, goes to IAD combos
pktazn Posted October 28, 2011 Author Posted October 28, 2011 IAD combo should be a given at that point but we won't know until someone actually does it. Decemeber~ You gonna be importing it for realsies? I don't think I will. It's a bit too expensive to import considering we're getting it about 2 months later and I don't mind waiting.
BatousaiJ Posted October 28, 2011 Posted October 28, 2011 You gonna be importing it for realsies? I don't think I will. It's a bit too expensive to import considering we're getting it about 2 months later and I don't mind waiting. Ya~ I have some money to throw around so I think I'll treat myself a little. 2 Months isn't that long of a time to wait but it will feel like it when me and Kiba start posting some awesome new technology~ I look forward to making you suuuuuper jelly. Pk's face-
BatousaiJ Posted October 28, 2011 Posted October 28, 2011 She has heterochromia? That's definitely a maybe.
shad0whiei Posted October 28, 2011 Posted October 28, 2011 Only thing makes me sad so far is 3c. I'm pretty hypes for everything else. I mean sure 3c fc is amazing but now more people will be using it and it'll be expected. I abuse the hell out of 3cc rapid in cs2 cus no one ever expects it since it wasn't used much. Time to find a new underrated move to throw opponents off guard XD Btw I'm terrible at dp whiff combos ATM so this outta be interesting to learn all the new stuff. Im excite. Oh and where's my Konan? ; ; Sent from my DROIDX using Tapatalk
Tsubaki 5B Posted October 29, 2011 Posted October 29, 2011 (edited) after watching some vids from pk i saw that you can 2CC 623C 214A(Whiff) into standard air BNB it's here if you wanna see http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=C-aLKSM5OcU#t=1192s Edited October 30, 2011 by Tsubaki 5B
Daedron Posted October 29, 2011 Posted October 29, 2011 after watching some vids from pk i saw that you can 2CC 623A 214A(Whiff) into standard air BNB it's here if you wanna see http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=C-aLKSM5OcU#t=1192s That's 623C, not the A version.
LunarSelenia Posted October 30, 2011 Posted October 30, 2011 Only thing makes me sad so far is 3c. I'm pretty hypes for everything else. I mean sure 3c fc is amazing but now more people will be using it and it'll be expected. I abuse the hell out of 3cc rapid in cs2 cus no one ever expects it since it wasn't used much. Time to find a new underrated move to throw opponents off guard XD I forget a LOT about 3CC RC (but started doing it again lately) as being one of my options for keeping people in the corner. I tend to charge a lot in the corner after a 236x finisher. But usually I wait to see where the opponent techs and go for 2B, 3CC RC if I have the meter. I have a tendency to try and drop combos near the corner during the 236x when they least expect it and throw out a 22[D]. Catches them off guard quite a bit. I also do it after they tech too (not ideal imo since it's starting to get predictable for me) but this is more of a conditioning thing. Scare them on the ground and wakeup and blocking they're left with air dashing out of the corner, which I have a pretty good read at this point and tend to Air Grab them and then go into 6CC > j.C > j.214D > etc. Having the 3C Fatal is good imo, it's more useful and easier getting a 6C Fatal like right now, but I do believe that with some of the other options she has in the corner, the 3C thing won't be expected that much when CSX is released. Of course it's hard to read changes on paper and then see how they work with everything else in gameplay so I don't know how everything else I mentioned will change, but I'm pretty sure they will stay the same.
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