Yazumatto Posted April 20, 2013 Posted April 20, 2013 All this talk of 2v2 makes me want a Tag team mode in the console version. Makoto/Azrael all day long. Disgusting displays of physical strength FTW.
Beat_By-X Posted April 20, 2013 Posted April 20, 2013 Any matchup for all characters ???? What is the last Tierlist please ?
Skye Posted April 20, 2013 Posted April 20, 2013 There isn't one that's complete iirc, but the top characters are agreed to be Hazama, Tao, Valkenhayn and Jin, with Litchi, Azrael and Hakumen behind them.
Lich Posted April 20, 2013 Posted April 20, 2013 I hope you don't mean Haku-Men behind those characters. lol Haku-men is top 2 at least. In general those are the best characters though. More so Haku-men, Hazama, Litchi, Tao, and Jin. Valk and Azreal are probably higher than the rest of the cast, but not as strong as those five.
GEKKA Posted April 20, 2013 Posted April 20, 2013 Hakumen is pretty crazy from the footage i've seen. Dem OD "combos" Also I really like that avatar Jourdal, it just looks really cool to me.
zeth07 Posted April 20, 2013 Posted April 20, 2013 (edited) Based on the recent opinions on the jbbs (7 of them), the "average" Tier List would look something like this: S: Taokaka > Hakumen > Jin/Valkenhayn > Hazama S-A: Litchi > Ragna > Mu A: Carl/Azrael > Rachel > Relius A-B: Nu > Platinum/Tager/Bang/Tsubaki B: Noel/Arakune/Makoto/Bullet > Amane/Izayoi I'd say that is fairly accurate. The only one that kinda sticks out is Ragna, unless some stuff has been found out or he isn't as "bad" as people say. For reference 5/7 said he was S tier, 1 said A+, another said A. Edit: Just to clarify a little more, the rankings aren't strictly ordered, they are more based on how the opinions were. So for example Litchi had 6/7 players say she was S tier, while 1 said A tier. By comparison everyone from Hazama and above never got rated below S tier, thus the separation, but you could just assume Litchi was "S tier" all the same right along with them. So think of it more like an overview of the tier list. For a bit of a comparison: Arc Revo Cup Silver Ticket Winners: 15: Valkenhayn 14: Taokaka 11: Jin/Tager 9: Hakumen 8: Litchi/Mu 7: Hazama 6: Carl/Azrael/Tsubaki/Ragna/Amane 5: Platinum/Noel 3: Arakune 2: Nu/Bang/Rachel 1: Makoto/Izayoi/Relius 0: Bullet Arc Revo Cup Gold Ticket Winners: 5: Taokaka/Valkenhayn/Tager 4: Jin/Hazama/Litchi/Carl 3: Hakumen/Ragna/Bang/Tsubaki/Arakune 2: Mu/Azrael 1: Rachel/Relius/Nu/Platinum/Noel/Makoto 0: Amane/Bullet/Izayoi Edit Again (Updated): Added Comparisons: Characters Highest Dan: 19th: Jin/Hazama 18th: Rachel/Taokaka/Litchi/Arakune/Hakumen/Relius 17th: Ragna/Nu/Makoto/Valkenhayn/Platinum 16th: Noel/Tager/Bang/Carl/Tsubaki/Bullet/Azrael 15th: Mu 14th: Izayoi/Amane Total Top 10 Dan Each Character Added: 160↑: Jin(161)>Hakumen(160) 150↑: Valkenhayn(158)>Taokaka/Hazama(156)>Ragna(155)>Litchi(151)>Carl(150) 140↑ : Azrael(147)>Noel(146)>Arakune/Bang(145)>Rachel/Relius(143)>Platinum(142)>Tager(140) 130↑: Bullet(139)>Mu(138)>Tsubaki/Makoto(134)>Nu(133) 120↑: Izayoi(129)>Amane(126) Edited April 20, 2013 by zeth07
TagerTime Posted April 20, 2013 Posted April 20, 2013 (edited) For a bit of a comparison: Arc Revo Cup Silver Ticket Winners: 15: Valkenhayn 14: Taokaka 11: Jin/Tager 9: Hakumen 8: Litchi/Mu 7: Hazama 6: Carl/Azrael/Tsubaki/Ragna/Amane 5: Platinum/Noel 3: Arakune 2: Nu/Bang/Rachel 1: Makoto/Izayoi/Relius 0: Bullet Arc Revo Cup Gold Ticket Winners: 5: Taokaka/Valkenhayn/Tager 4: Jin/Hazama/Litchi/Carl 3: Hakumen/Ragna/Bang/Tsubaki/Arakune 2: Mu/Azrael 1: Rachel/Relius/Nu/Platinum/Noel/Makoto 0: Amane/Bullet/Izayoi Well According to the total Arc Revo Results TAGER IS CONFIRMED FOR S TIER BABYYYY!!!!!!!!!!:yaaay: Edited April 20, 2013 by TagerTime
GEKKA Posted April 20, 2013 Posted April 20, 2013 I thought Bullet would have been picked more, she looks solid but I'm sure there is a valid reason for her not being played.
KayEff Posted April 20, 2013 Posted April 20, 2013 jbbs is the community equivalent to youtube explains why ragna is high
Darret_Wallace Posted April 20, 2013 Posted April 20, 2013 who's the 3rd arakune with the gold ticket? i only know of souji and hiyoko.
zeth07 Posted April 20, 2013 Posted April 20, 2013 lol wat He's probably at least A. At least going by the characters in A-B or B, who he is presumably better than, which doesn't seem too far-fetched. And going by results, he isn't doing too bad either, so like Tager he probably isn't as bad as people think. But the whole point is people can have their own opinion, so you can interpret the content however you want, which is why I edited in the other stuff so people can look at it and come to their own conclusions. who's the 3rd arakune with the gold ticket? i only know of souji and hiyoko. きむちゃん / Kimuchan, can't tell you if that's a name he normally goes by though.
Darret_Wallace Posted April 20, 2013 Posted April 20, 2013 yeah kimuchan is his name, quite surprised he manage to qualify.
Kurushii Posted April 20, 2013 Posted April 20, 2013 jbbs is the community equivalent to youtube explains why ragna is high
kirbster Posted April 20, 2013 Posted April 20, 2013 Ragna still looks really solid in CP, his neutral and space control is just as great as before, nothing changed there. He lost his stupid damage but he still hits hard enough.
NeoGio0o Posted April 20, 2013 Posted April 20, 2013 Cross-up D Inferno divider, OD, take this damage.
zeth07 Posted April 20, 2013 Posted April 20, 2013 jbbs is the community equivalent to youtube explains why ragna is high While I'm not going to agree or disagree one way or the other, I would question why those players would put Ragna there if they somehow didn't think it was "realistic" for him to be there. At least compared to the others (who for the most part seem accurate enough by outside opinions as well). I could understand 1 person saying he was S or A and ignoring it for an exaggeration, but multiple people agreeing? With the rest of their tierlists being similar enough as well to the point of not being too questionable? Like everyone agrees Taokaka is great and Izayoi is bad without question, yet when those same people agree Ragna is "good" it is automatically jokes, something doesn't match up. So I would ask why? Then we see results that show Ragna players aren't actually doing too bad either. If someone said Ragna and Tager were A tier I wouldn't automatically disagree, cause it seems entirely plausible from what I've watched.
floatwater Posted April 20, 2013 Posted April 20, 2013 His stupid damage was lost by his DCs, and his 6b c gatlings other than that if you compare him to ex he's somewhat the same. Too lazy to explain hope people do not take this too serious.
Chaoschao222 Posted April 20, 2013 Posted April 20, 2013 (edited) While I also am not saying anything one way or another about whether or not the jbbs knows what they're talking about, but look at your "typical netplayer," they may know what characters are gdlk and which characters are trash, but at the same time... I don't think Ragna is bad in CP, but similarly, he seems pretty high in those lists... when's October ;_; Edited April 20, 2013 by Chaoschao222 poor wording
Lich Posted April 20, 2013 Posted April 20, 2013 Like everyone agrees Taokaka is great and Izayoi is bad without question, Would SKD like to have a word with you. lol I don't actually think Izayoi is bad myself. I don't think she's top, though but she has a lot of stuff. No one is really with it, but when you see a good Izayoi, which is rare they can really rape some face.
Surf Posted April 20, 2013 Posted April 20, 2013 I think Ragna is just pretty balanced this time around. Izayoi I dont think is complete bottom. Maybe somewhere in the middle, same with Ragna
YukiBlue Posted April 20, 2013 Posted April 20, 2013 From what I've seen of Izayoi she really doesn't seem that bad. Litchi seems to be wrecking faces though, her damage output is mad high now
TagerTime Posted April 21, 2013 Posted April 21, 2013 The proof is in the results, and just based on Arc Revo Tournament results so far S Tier= Taokaka/Valkenhayn/Tager/Jin I also think Izayoi and others will improve after console training mode is available. There will most likely be a re-balance when console is released to make Tager even better. He should be S+ by then :razz: Arc Revo Cup Silver Ticket Winners: 15: Valkenhayn 14: Taokaka 11: Jin/Tager 9: Hakumen 8: Litchi/Mu 7: Hazama 6: Carl/Azrael/Tsubaki/Ragna/Amane 5: Platinum/Noel 3: Arakune 2: Nu/Bang/Rachel 1: Makoto/Izayoi/Relius 0: Bullet Arc Revo Cup Gold Ticket Winners: 5: Taokaka/Valkenhayn/Tager 4: Jin/Hazama/Litchi/Carl 3: Hakumen/Ragna/Bang/Tsubaki/Arakune 2: Mu/Azrael 1: Rachel/Relius/Nu/Platinum/Noel/Makoto 0: Amane/Bullet/Izayoi
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