[CP] News & Gameplay Discussion (Old)

[mitsuyoshi]

To create the next big meme in the gaming industry aside from

REAL SOVIET DAMAGE

Interesting so what kind of meme they will make?

Joking aside,i find the release date quite suspicious,why so long anyway?they already tell us about how long the story mode and that is a indirect confirmation they done with the story and the change in the Online mode,so why so long?

[YukiBlue]

2014 for the Xbox isn't overly bad. I mean it's still terrible, but it's not like I can't cope with it. Ill have enough games to tide me over I guess.

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[psycofang2]

Not really,because we already know how creative Mori is when it come to character play style,he sure can make any character become really strong and unique,beside judging from your post,you really doesn't think that Mori can make him playable while Mori already make a powerful and unique character more than one and no one dissapoint with them,not just that,if Jubei doesn't playable,the dissapoinment will hurt him more than making him playable,because we already know how many people want him and it will hurt them more and some maybe will quit playing the game,beside i find it really strange because they give a hint about him will become playable and if they don't make him playable,why they give us the hint?can you answer that?

EDIT: deleted to be nicer.

stop it.

im saying no matter what he does he cannot meet everyones expectations of what they are dreaming up in their heads.

so yes you are right i DONT think he can meet peoples expectations. i did not say he couldnt make him playable.

thats all i could get from that wall.

Edited April 18, 2013 by psycofang2

[mitsuyoshi]

EDIT: deleted to be nicer.

stop it.

im saying no matter what he does he cannot meet everyones expectations of what they are dreaming up in their heads.

so yes you are right i DONT think he can meet peoples expectations. i did not say he couldnt make him playable.

thats all i could get from that wall.

Well looks like you miss understand what i mean,what i trying to say is to early to say Mori couldnt meet everyone expectation and make him become a unique and powerful character and say he saving him for the final blazblue,beside we don't even know what kind of magic Mori will put to Jubei and is true that i went a little overboard and i sorry about that

[Ctrlaltwtf]

Why no Jubei? Because catmen? What's that?

Why no Kokonoe? Because we have one catgirl already :v:

Better get rid of all the humanoids in this game I guess.

[Airk]

And TBH, I'm really getting sick of characters who can't fight, throw random shit out, and still somehow win. cough*

Rachel

*cough

What makes you think that the like...3rd most powerful character in the game from a story perspective "can't fight"?

[.:TM:.]

People still think Kokonoe can't fight :U

Even if she won't use magic, she'll probably have a wide arrange of gadgets to help her fight. Either way don't forget the CP arcades end with Kokonoe saying she's going to handle things herself.

How can rachel "not fight" she has access to really powerful magic and uses Nago and Gii as weapons who can change into an all manner of objects to FIGHT with.

[harmless kitten]

So about a head shorter than Carl.

Jubei is even smaller than that. 123 cm or about 4 foot even. Carl is 144, 4'9. But it's possible they'd change his height like they changed Valkenhayn's, or Jubei will stand taller on his hind legs. Or just make his sprite bigger than how he really is.

The world isn't ready for playable Jubei and Kokonoe hasn't finished building her Gundam yet, let's all be patient.

[hipikachu]

Even if she won't use magic, she'll probably have a wide arrange of gadgets to help her fight. Either way don't forget the CP arcades end with Kokonoe saying she's going to handle things herself.

Exactly. This is EXACTLY what I'm afraid of. The reason I'm into BB more so than GG is because in GG, it was more "random" rather than "diverse." In BB, we have an assortment of swords, guns, knives, shields, manikins, claws, and other cool stuff. In GG, most characters were pretty much "throw out random stuff." Floorboards coming out of the sky and invisible doors weren't really my cup of tea. If we have yet another character who "pops out random scientific gadgets," how much different from Relius or Platinum could she really be? Besides, we barely have any NPC characters left.

How can rachel "not fight" she has access to really powerful magic and uses Nago and Gii as weapons who can change into an all manner of objects to FIGHT with.

What I meant is that her fighting style is relatively "keep you hands from getting dirty," seeing that Nago and Gii take all the hits, and make up the majority of her offensive. This is fine and all, it's what seperates her from the rest of the cast. However, if Kokonoe had a similar playstyle, such as "not doing anything while my machines pound the shit out of my opponent," it would defeat the purpose of introducing her as a new character.

What I'm saying in that in Jubei's case, he would be a welcome NEW addition to the cast, bringing in his dual swords for a given playstyle. Whereas Kokonoe doesn't have anything defining enough to justify her addition to the game just yet. All of you who want her in the game: WHY do you want her in the game is why I'm asking.

Edited April 18, 2013 by hipikachu

[Narroo]

Exactly. This is EXACTLY what I'm afraid of. The reason I'm into BB more so than GG is because in GG, it was more "random" rather than "diverse." In BB, we have an assortment of swords, guns, knives, shields, manikins, claws, and other cool stuff. In GG, most characters were pretty much "throw out random stuff." Floorboards coming out of the sky and invisible doors weren't really my cup of tea. If we have yet another character who "pops out random scientific gadgets," how much different from Relius or Platinum could she really be? Besides, we barely have any NPC characters left.

What I meant is that her fighting style is relatively "keep you hands from getting dirty," seeing that Nago and Gii take all the hits, and make up the majority of her offensive. This is fine and all, it's what seperates her from the rest of the cast. However, if Kokonoe had a similar playstyle, such as "not doing anything while my machines pound the shit out of my opponent," it would defeat the purpose of introducing her as a new character.

What I'm saying in that in Jubei's case, he would be a welcome NEW addition to the cast, bringing in his dual swords for a given playstyle. Whereas Kokonoe doesn't have anything defining enough to justify her addition to the game just yet. All of you who want her in the game: WHY do you want her in the game is why I'm asking.

Like her design, her personality would be funny, and she has the potential to do cool stuff, as opposed to generic McWeren'tYouInXenoBladeOrAmIThinkingOfKingdomHearts,DarnYou'reEveryWhereAren'tYou?

[hipikachu]

Like her design, her personality would be funny, and she has the potential to do cool stuff, as opposed to generic...

I like Linhua's design, her personality would be funny, and she has the potential to do cool stuff.

Not dissing you or anything, but I mean: what do you want her as a unique character to bring into the fight, that none of us have really seen yet? What you listed were the ideal traits for an important NPC character.

[Dark Ranger88]

If she does decide to use the apparently ridiculous magical powers she inherited from Nine, physical prowess that comes from being a half human hybrid/Jubei's daughter, and the reality warping technology she developed: All at the same damn time!!! : Then she could be a really interesting character with a diverse set of moves/distortions (and maybe some kind of mode change / meter management for using all three of her sources of power.

Most characters only have one gimmick that gives them strength: AKA "I've got magic stupid :P"... " Well I haz da Azure", and

"I gouge my eyes out and kill my friends T.T".

This bitch would have three though.

Also inb4 her astral is trapping the opponent in a magical seal and then nukeing the hell out of them

Edited April 18, 2013 by Dark Ranger88

[TPPR10]

Even if she won't use magic, she'll probably have a wide arrange of gadgets to help her fight.

I cannot THIS enough. I have saying this. Kokonoe isn't a trained mage. She isn't a trained fighter. Se is first and moremost a SCIENTIST! If that thing would be gone from Kokonoe when she becomes playable, she wouldn't be Kokonoe to my eyes. She hasn't showed any powers from Jubei, and she has only used magic few times. She isn't planning to kill Terumi with magic, she has entire base full of nukes for that. I would go to details what she could use

Like midget Tagers

, but my point is, she is showed us as scientist, and she will always stay as that to me.

[SolxBaiken]

BlazBlue's cast will always suck until Linhua is playable...

then I'll go back to hating it once I realize Linhua can't live up to my expectations ; -;

But the way I see it, there's no reason for any character given a design not to show up in any thing you do, ever. Or else, why bother wasting the time to make them Want to know why Ama will never see the Chinese Restaurant owner playable? Because she has no name and no design! Honestly BB could've went it's entire story without like...ANY of these "NPCs". But we have them and they're great to have, even if we'll never see Bang Subordinate B (the strongest of all ninja!) playable

for now :3

[ElegantShadow]

I cannot THIS enough. I have saying this. Kokonoe isn't a trained mage. She isn't a trained fighter. Se is first and moremost a SCIENTIST! If that thing would be gone from Kokonoe when she becomes playable, she wouldn't be Kokonoe to my eyes. She hasn't showed any powers from Jubei, and she has only used magic few times. She isn't planning to kill Terumi with magic, she has entire base full of nukes for that. I would go to details what she could use

Like midget Tagers

, but my point is, she is showed us as scientist, and she will always stay as that to me.

If anything, Kokonoe will either end up being an Assist/Summoner Character who calls on Tager or even another robot to attack for her, or she'll end up being the Justice of BlazBlue (As in she'll be in a giant robot suit).

Edit: Also, her being a scientist has nothing to do with whether or not she'll be playable. I mean, take a look a Litchi, she's a doctor/scientist and she fights quite well.

Edited April 18, 2013 by ElegantShadow

[.:TM:.]

Look Blazblue has already proven they can create diverse playstyles, if you compare all the characters you class as using tools to fight none of them play anything a like. I trust that they can bring something new and fun to the table with Kokonoe because they have both her scientific knowledge and magic to to work with that and personally liking chatacter are the reasons I would like to see Kokonoe playable.

This is a fighting game, if a character who is an NPC can fight, why shouldn't they be playable? If you don't want her playable or care about her that's fine but no one can tell me that Kokonoe can't be playable because she can't fight (when she can) or because there's not many NPCs (moot point).

[White Man]

But the way I see it, there's no reason for any character given a design not to show up in any thing you do, ever. Or else, why bother wasting the time to make them Want to know why Ama will never see the Chinese Restaurant owner playable? Because she has no name and no design! Honestly BB could've went it's entire story without like...ANY of these "NPCs". But we have them and they're great to have, even if we'll never see Bang Subordinate B (the strongest of all ninja!) playable

for now :3

Some characters are specifically designed for the story, though. As in, they serve a purpose for the plot but wouldn't necessarily mesh well with the existing cast as a playable fighter. I think GG did just fine without ever making Crow and April playable.

[Dark Ranger88]

If Kokonoe does become playable I just hope she has Taokaka's 22C. That would be like...the hottest thing ever.

[TPPR10]

Edit: Also, her being a scientist has nothing to do with whether or not she'll be playable. I mean, take a look a Litchi, she's a doctor/scientist and she fights quite well.

I didn't mean that post why she shouldn't be playable, but how she would actually work if she became playable.

[SolxBaiken]

Some characters are specifically designed for the story, though. As in, they serve a purpose for the plot but wouldn't necessarily mesh well with the existing cast as a playable fighter. I think GG did just fine without ever making Crow and April playable.

Honestly, with the exception of Bang subordinates, you can't say that with absolute certainty (unless you and Mori are best bros and he tells you everything, in that case I'm sorry Ishiwatari-san ; -; ). With the exception of CP, every new character since the first game was promoted from "NPC" to "PC". If anyone told me Platinum was going to be playable (who did literally NOTHING in the story of CS, and has the most "generic" design in her little cloak thing, which is the ONLY thing you saw her in during the story) I would've laughed at them back in the day (especially if they told me the results).

And LOL, really, your counter argument is GG, April, and CROW!? First off, GG has been a very stagnant game since XX (cast wise) not adding a new character (#Reload Robo-Ky aside) till Isuka in the form of A.B.A, and even looking at just Isuka, you could play Leopaldon and the Zakos (unimportant, "NPC"-esque characters with 1 move each lul). And the next character edition would come in an (awesome) sprite edit (essentially). If GG continued forward as a franchise, there's no reason for them not to include April, or any other Jellyfish pirate to the roster, the cards are there if they need to be used.

And freaking CROW, REALLY!? Ok, not only do I not acknowledge anything in AC+'s story mode (because it was largely trash and Ishiwatari didn't work on it) but Crow is a terrible case as he was thrown in just as haphazardly as AC+'s story mode was, in an already stagnate game.

I'm not saying every character in BB will become playable, but given the track record, the possibility is far likelier than you may want to give credit for. Also BB is a far more elaborate affair than GG was in story mode, which didn't create unique sprites to weave it's tale.

[mAc Chaos]

Did they mention a 360 date?

[Kurushii]

Did they mention a 360 date?

Not happening in Japan.

[ElegantShadow]

I didn't mean that post why she shouldn't be playable, but how she would actually work if she became playable.

Ah, I was under the impression you were stating why she shouldn't be playable, my bad.

And as I said in my previous post, she would/might be a Summoning Character or be somewhat like Justice in terms of design.

[INeedGlitch2Win]

Did they mention a 360 date?

Whenever they announce an US date I suppose.

[Luminos564]

On the subject of a playable Jebei hitbox: I thought that if ASW wanted to increase it, they could make a new battle sprite for him. One that involves him donning that armor he's depicted in from some promotional artworks (I think the image in question features Jubei staring menacingly while GhostTerumi is laughing in the background). They can even keep the old sprite they used for Taokaka's Astral, but have him put it on in the intro like the Murakumo units do.

EDIT: http://i.imgur.com/cABiW.jpg

Found it. Yeah something like that. His drive can even be that Sekigan-thing which his right eye seems to have.

Edited April 18, 2013 by Luminos564