Jason D. Posted November 5, 2012 Posted November 5, 2012 (edited) Not like the whole argument has any relevance on the story anyway. Ragna is indeed in the story, and I imagine story fans would be happy getting facts straight about him. Edit: Though you are right about the first part. Advice I've given that I still need to take, ironically. "Chill out and let it go." Edited November 5, 2012 by Jason D.
SolxBaiken Posted November 5, 2012 Posted November 5, 2012 Simple question: Was it ever clearly stated or estimated the length of time that gaps the end of the Dark War to the present (beginning of Calamity Trigger)?
Tokkan Posted November 5, 2012 Posted November 5, 2012 Simple question: Was it ever clearly stated or estimated the length of time that gaps the end of the Dark War to the present (beginning of Calamity Trigger)? The Dark War ended in 2110. I'm fairly certain that was stated in other sources before, but it was stated in the CT Reconstruction in Extend. So about 89 years.
Jason D. Posted November 5, 2012 Posted November 5, 2012 Simple question: Was it ever clearly stated or estimated the length of time that gaps the end of the Dark War to the present (beginning of Calamity Trigger)? That's not a CP question! Haha, I kid. I do remember it was always mentioned as 100 years though, correct? But I don't know any exact dates. Someone help her out, yo.
SolxBaiken Posted November 6, 2012 Posted November 6, 2012 New question, when was Tager transmooglefied?
Tokkan Posted November 6, 2012 Posted November 6, 2012 (edited) New question, when was Tager transmooglefied? No one knows, though we do know for sure that it was after the church incident and before Ibukido was shot by Take-Mikazuchi. So somewhere between 5 and 7 years prior to the games. Edited November 6, 2012 by Tokkan
harmless kitten Posted November 6, 2012 Posted November 6, 2012 Character profiles were released. Amane's bday is 11/15 (Shichi-Go-San), Bullet has 8/2 (couldn't find anything, but it may not be something immediately obvious much like a few other characters' birthday), and Azrael's birthday is 10/10 (not sure, although the first thing I thought of was Health and Sports Day even if it doesn't always take place on 10/10...or it could be just for fun like Ragna's birthday date). @Tokkan: OH, completely misunderstood.
SolxBaiken Posted November 6, 2012 Posted November 6, 2012 And the Church was well after 5 years huh? Hmm then I guess Tager being a member (leader) of Bullet's merc troupe holds more gravity, although wasn't Tager already a Sector 7 collaborator before then? Or did S7 hire the mercs to get Nirvana, everyone (seemingly?) died, and then Tager got revived and became Kokonoe's lapdog?
Tokkan Posted November 6, 2012 Posted November 6, 2012 And the Church was well after 5 years huh? Church incident was 7 years ago in the games timeline. Jin ending the Ikaruga Civil War was 2 years ago for comparison.
harmless kitten Posted November 6, 2012 Posted November 6, 2012 No one knows, though we do know for sure that it was after the church incident and before Ibukido was shot by Take-Mikazuchi. So somewhere between 5 and 7 years prior to the games. This timeline from the CTSMC says that Tager was "remodelled" by Kokonoe sometime in AD2193, although it's completely possible the circumstances have changed and that is no longer the case. (There's an updated timeline in the CSSMC, but I can't read it.)
SolxBaiken Posted November 6, 2012 Posted November 6, 2012 I like that in that timeline, "Taokaka is taking a nap" is a relevant event
Tokkan Posted November 6, 2012 Posted November 6, 2012 This timeline from the CTSMC says that Tager was "remodelled" by Kokonoe sometime in AD2193, although it's completely possible the circumstances have changed and that is no longer the case. (There's an updated timeline in the CSSMC, but I can't read it.) Ah, right so it's 6 years prior then. Until proven otherwise.
harmless kitten Posted November 6, 2012 Posted November 6, 2012 Tao taking a nap is always relevant! Here is the CSSMC timeline. @Tokkan: Yeah. I think it might be the same in the CSSMC timeline (something about Tager and Kokonoe in AD2193), but I can't say for sure.
Tokkan Posted November 6, 2012 Posted November 6, 2012 (edited) Checking over the CSSMC timeline, much of what happened in the Dark War (and before) has been retconned. And I mean quite a bit. They removed the bits about Hakumen confronting the Black Beast by himself and him meeting Jubei before the Beast going silent. The rest of the timeline hasn't changed much, mostly stuff has been added. Edited November 6, 2012 by Tokkan
SolxBaiken Posted November 6, 2012 Posted November 6, 2012 Well in Bullet's profile it says the operation that wiped out her fellow members occurred "some 5 years ago" so it can definitely fit within that 5~7yr gap, and from the screenshot from the opening it can be guessed she was left behind (too young/inexperienced?) thus making it plausible she was the only "survivor". Also man, as cool as the 3 new characters are, I feel Arc missed an opportunity to finally bring Linhua over into the fold .v.
Nemesis Posted November 6, 2012 Posted November 6, 2012 I know this is basically the CP storyline but in order to hlep my general BB story Im gonna need someone to fill in the hole for me -- Carl is relius son relius was working on the project that spawned the black beast some long ass time ago and he was sucked into the boundary he then is somehow brought back to the current time line Somehow he created Nirvana (maybe?) to help defeat the blackbeast and yet carl - who isnt like 80+ years old - saw this and is pissed about it when did he have a son? -- the whole carl and relius father out of time thing is really throwing me for a loop -- can anyone shed some light on this for me?
YoYoCheese Posted November 6, 2012 Posted November 6, 2012 I know this is basically the CP storyline but in order to hlep my general BB story Im gonna need someone to fill in the hole for me -- Carl is relius son relius was working on the project that spawned the black beast some long ass time ago and he was sucked into the boundary he then is somehow brought back to the current time line Somehow he created Nirvana (maybe?) to help defeat the blackbeast and yet carl - who isnt like 80+ years old - saw this and is pissed about it when did he have a son? -- the whole carl and relius father out of time thing is really throwing me for a loop -- can anyone shed some light on this for me? First, Relius was sucked into the Boundary which sent him into the future (about 20 years before CT, I think). Then, he married Ignis and had Carl and Ada. All Nox Nyctores are powered by a human soul and most of them were made by Nine. After the Dark War, Nine released the souls inside several Noxes, Nirvana included. Sometime later, Relius reactivated Nirvana by using Ada's soul. He was in the process of upgrading her when he lost interest and left. Carl then found her and was forced to finish the upgrades.
Tokkan Posted November 8, 2012 Posted November 8, 2012 http://www.famitsu.com/cominy/?m=pc&a=page_fh_diary&target_c_diary_id=42597 - Ragna, Jin and Noel BBCP profiles http://www.famitsu.com/cominy/?m=pc&a=page_fh_diary&target_c_diary_id=43044 - Rachel, Tao and Tager BBCP profiles Nothing new except Tao has a reason for splitting up with Ragna. She's helping him look for Noel. They'll be releasing these profiles daily this week and next (though I'm assuming not during the weekend) and tomorrow's update is Litchi, Arakune and Bang. And there's always a small chance for something new in the profiles.
Chaoschao222 Posted November 8, 2012 Posted November 8, 2012 Seems weird for Tao to take on a legitimate role of responsibility like that.... wonder if food's involved.
Agni Posted November 8, 2012 Posted November 8, 2012 Or maybe it's this magical thing called "character development".
Chaoschao222 Posted November 8, 2012 Posted November 8, 2012 With CSX ending in Tao running off after a bug, I'm going with food being involved for now
Starlight777 Posted November 8, 2012 Posted November 8, 2012 Ragna must have promised her meat buns, for her to agree to an actual task.
SolxBaiken Posted November 8, 2012 Posted November 8, 2012 Well Tao already has some form of respect for Ragna, and since Jubei told her to follow him, it's probably not too farfetched for her to to develop a master/disciple relation. (wonder how Bang will take this ; -; he's loosing all his pupils!)
Tokkan Posted November 9, 2012 Posted November 9, 2012 (edited) http://www.famitsu.com/cominy/?m=pc&a=page_fh_diary&target_c_diary_id=43176 - Litchi, Arakune, Bang BBCP profiles Only new bit of info is that Arakune has been modified somehow since Relius captured him. Carl and Hakumen profiles coming Monday. Edited November 9, 2012 by Tokkan
SoWL Posted November 9, 2012 Posted November 9, 2012 The character artwork has been much more interesting than the bios so far to me. Love how Litchi's staff bends in her artwork now.
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