[CP1.1] Makoto Nanaya's Gameplay Discussion - When's 2.0?

[Bibiquadium]

Probably got tired of getting his ass raped playing Izayoi/Nu

[Goldchampion200]

http://sp.bbcp.ac/ranking_view.php?mode=exe&type=psr_rank&couse=&charactor=mk&pref=0

Guess who is the 1# Makoto player in ranking? Yes, its Goro (unless someone else changed his ID to Goro lewl)

Discuss in videos things here on this thread, the video thread should be left for posting videos only.

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Out of BBCP topic, i finally made it to 8K before 2013

Played all my matches with Makoto no matter how casual it was, i only play other characters either to teach friends or to show them how amazing and diverse BB characters can be.

Nice Job My goal is 10K before CP :P

[Yazumatto]

http://sp.bbcp.ac/ranking_view.php?mode=exe&type=psr_rank&couse=&charactor=mk&pref=0

Guess who is the 1# Makoto player in ranking? Yes, its Goro (unless someone else changed his ID to Goro lewl)

When you linked me the rankings earlier, I tried using google translator to find out the names. It was a failed attempt but when I tried to translate the, at the time, second place person, google was like "did you mean 'goro'?"

"Uhh...maybe?" o_O

I'll need to see some footage before I start popping off though.

[Bibiquadium]

It is ごろ(Goro) written in hiragana playing as Makoto that is first place in the ladder.

[Yazumatto]

So apparently, there is footage of goromakoto but it's in nicovideo form right now.

I'm assume having a 13th dan Makoto actually means something so there's a decent chance he's sticking with her.

[Mr OSD]

Goro playing Makoto again is real. He's looking very strong as always.

I posted the link in the video thread.

Can't wait to study more footage of him (again).

My weekend has been made.

[YukiBlue]

Makoto is looking very strong this time round. Some simple combos do solid damage but give above average carry, Confirming 5B Midscreen into corner combo looks hype as hell.

Excited to play as Makoto to be honest.

[Yazumatto]

...my body wasn't ready for Planet Crusher in the first goromakoto match.

...and then he bodies Kuresu after a nail-biting first round.

...and then he reads Azrael like a book and bodies him too (that double-weakpoint combo though ullll can't wait to play that manly mother fucker too.)

Goro, you are (once again) forgiven for cheating on the tail goddess. Stay godlike. <3

Edited December 28, 2012 by Yazumatto

[SolAscension]

Meh I never doubted that he'd be back to bring our Squirrel Goddess back to the top. This happened in extend also.

[StarGazer]

Goro made me speechless, best BB player in history, hands down, haters gonna hate, case closed. *biased*

Makoto is looking very strong this time round. Some simple combos do solid damage but give above average carry, Confirming 5B Midscreen into corner combo looks hype as hell.

Excited to play as Makoto to be honest.

No no no, if anything then i'm pissed by her new combos, any confirm in midscreen launches all the way to corner into the same easy boring long combo every freakin time!!!! Seriously this is the worst combo build we ever got in a game so far, yuck, I dare even to say her combos is the worst in whole CP. OD combos are sick yeah yeah sure, but out of that her combo part is semi nonexistent. I hope time make fun of me and tells the opposite, but so far this is how i see it.

[Bibiquadium]

Apparently easier means better.

[Ctrlaltwtf]

Hey everyone.

Hazama is better than Makoto

K bye

[Bibiquadium]

Hazama is a character for frauds, kthxbye.

[SolAscension]

qft

Hazama is a character for frauds, kthxbye.

[BlackKaizer]

Goro made me speechless, best BB player in history, hands down, haters gonna hate, case closed. *biased*

No no no, if anything then i'm pissed by her new combos, any confirm in midscreen launches all the way to corner into the same easy boring long combo every freakin time!!!! Seriously this is the worst combo build we ever got in a game so far, yuck, I dare even to say her combos is the worst in whole CP. OD combos are sick yeah yeah sure, but out of that her combo part is semi nonexistent. I hope time make fun of me and tells the opposite, but so far this is how i see it.

At this point it seems everyone's found her best combos, and though she has more room for variation nothing beats the best...but since this applys to all characters, and fighters in general, this cant be called an issue....can it?

[StarGazer]

At this point it seems everyone's found her best combos, and though she has more room for variation nothing beats the best...but since this applys to all characters, and fighters in general, this cant be called an issue....can it?

Its an issue when the comboability of the said combo is pretty high that it kills the other confirms:

Crouch confirm? go 6C > SS

Counter Hit?? 6C > SS

Normal midscreen hit? 6C > SS

Near corner? 6C > SS

Not a big problem ehh? but add to it that the combo itself is pretty dull/braindead/non-special. SS > pick up > j.D > 5D > done. not very damaging yet takes a lot of time to happen.

To my preference, i'd like Makoto to shit down a salt factory damage at the cost of a much lower abare. and have its own sense or execution requirement like (SS > 446A or j.B j.D > 2366A), drive charging gets boring after 2 days and shouldn't be counted as such thing

[YukiBlue]

Apparently easier means better.

I'm sure there is room for variation..

[SolAscension]

You could always jump ship and go play Jin >.>;

[Jyosua]

The Jin It To Win It Bandwagon is not accepting newcomers at this time.

[Yazumatto]

Lol you guys.

I just wanna win with my main. If her combos are easy, that just gives me more time to focus on her neutral. As long as her combos involve punching people in the face and body multiple times, I'll be good.

I'll just play Azrael for my chest-kicking needs.

[MoneyD90]

If you're looking for flashy/stylish game play check out Litchi. That woman is all over the place with those staff combos. Lol

But on a more serious note, I think Makoto is stylish in her own way and it really shows with her 214 mind games. Hell I'm just glad she has a legit mix up and solid damage even without the corner. we even have orb oki and I know a lot of characters would kill for the ability to do what we can with it.

[Chaoschao222]

As long as her combos involve punching people in the face and body multiple times, I'll be good.

^^ She's a fluffy girl who punches the fuck outta stuff, that hasn't changed, therefore Makoto is a-ok, I am confident 100%

[Mightfo]

combos being boring/all one route is a bit sad but also just means you can focus more on neutral/pressure, combos are the smallest part of the depth/fun anyway(unless one misses having choices between the results; like damage vs oki vs resource management(like tsubaki drive) vs cornerpush or whatever)

[Bibiquadium]

My entire fun was in combos, which s now removed or reduced drastically, so I am touched by this change.

[Yazumatto]

^^ She's a fluffy girl who punches the fuck outta stuff, that hasn't changed, therefore Makoto is a-ok, I am confident 100%

It was supposed to read, "I'm never dropping this character ever."

I still need to find out who's the strongest physically between her and Azrael. I mean, the smart money is obviously on Azrael but it's been scientifically proven that Makoto's fist is still the fastest way to get to the moon. Space Shuttles can't compete with that shit.

My entire fun was in combos, which s now removed or reduced drastically, so I am touched by this change.

I'm pretty sure there are some undiscovered combo paths for her. It's just that for the most part, people will be trying to convert every random hit into guaranteed damage and corner so you're going to be seeing a lot of 6C > SS.

Edited January 2, 2013 by Yazumatto