[Xrd] News & (Theoretical) Gameplay Discussion

[oldkiller]

Instant Kills can OHKO anyone at any time if they have the meter (and meter's really easy to get in this game), so they "balance" it out by making it so that you will almost never hit anyone with an Instant Kill ever. Which begs the question of why they're even in the game if they're so incredibly useless.

ABA players will strongly agree with this

since we've seen Sol's Gear form it'd be really cool if he used that during his instant kill. Speaking of Sol, I'm wondering what Keep Yourself Alive 4 might sound like, or if it'll even be called Keep Yourself Alive anymore (I doubt they'll change it though.)

I think it will be like order-Sol IK, just a black gear form

Edited May 24, 2013 by oldkiller

[Volt]

What if they use GG2 Sol's gear form for DI?

[Hecatom]

since we've seen Sol's Gear form it'd be really cool if he used that during his instant kill. Speaking of Sol, I'm wondering what Keep Yourself Alive 4 might sound like, or if it'll even be called Keep Yourself Alive anymore (I doubt they'll change it though.)

I don't remember if it was here on SRK, but it would be cool that Order Sol was replaced by True Gear Form Sol, they can give him all his moveset

[stickystaines]

Has anyone figured out the lyrics yet? All i can get is some of the obvious stuff

From 2nd verse:

"Freak. ????. Shroud(?) like sulfur in the air"

"So let it be, oh let it be ????" (not sure about this one)

"Seems time's knockin' on the doors"

"No response but hey you're already BACK TO BACK"

"DEATH COMES A'RIDIN ON A MIDNIGHT TRAIN; BACK TO BACK"

*dunno*

"BLAZIN' DOWN; What a Heavy Day"

Edited May 24, 2013 by stickystaines

[Kitsoru]

What if they use GG2 Sol's gear form for DI?

Considering they've already hinted at that form in the trailer, I think it's very possible.

[BlackYakuzu94]

What if they use GG2 Sol's gear form for DI?

They could could do that for his IK too similar to how Order-Sol does it with DI Sakkai.

[Xtra_Zero]

lyrics

This is what I can make out

It. Nay. To. Will. Come out of the way. (wat)

Trick. Cheat. Fraud. Lie. Suffer in the end.

So let it be oh let it be says all the haters

Since time's a'knocking on the door.

No response, but hey you're ready

Back to back

Death comes arriving on a midnight train

Back to back

Conciousness is slipping to the end

Back to back

Cannot let anyone do ya again

Back to back

I can no longer pretend

You need to break it down

Just want to get better, thats my game

Lay thee down, one heavy day.

Edited May 24, 2013 by Xtra_Zero

[Hecatom]

I just hope that they keep it similar to this

[excelence]

I'm actually in complete agreement with you here. Sugeno did this to Vanguard Princess and IMO it makes the game worse. If the cutscene was put in the background, behind the characters or was just a camera angle change (they can do this now!) and didn't add any time to the execution of the super I think I'd be okay with it, but adding more superfreeze to the super is bad because it increases the amount of time the opponent has to react to it.

I don't think that's a valid reasoning to reject a Cutscene on super freeze since u're doing the super at the wrong time imo, and that's a player fault. If u use your super right, the opponent will not be able to react to it, even if it has a hour long cutscene (eg Tyrant Rave during D mix up).

[Kitsoru]

I just hope that they keep it similar to this

[snip]

If those images posted earlier in the thread are indeed leaked concepts, it might actually be a more progressed (or regressed, unconfirmed after all) form. I personally like this one better, but I guess we'll see...

Maybe it'll be an EX thing again like in Overture. Possible now with the models.

[Xtra_Zero]

I don't think that's a valid reasoning to reject a Cutscene on super freeze since u're doing the super at the wrong time imo, and that's a player fault. If u use your super right, the opponent will not be able to react to it, even if it has a hour long cutscene (eg Tyrant Rave during D mix up).

Perhaps, but I still dislike the jarring feel of having my combat interrupted by something flashing over the screen, slowing the match down, and ruining my concentration. If they could somehow manage to make it flashy without interrupting gameplay like that I think it'd be way better.

[Hecatom]

If those images posted earlier in the thread are indeed leaked concepts, it might actually be a more progressed (or regressed, unconfirmed after all) form. I personally like this one better, but I guess we'll see...

Maybe it'll be an EX thing again like in Overture. Possible now with the models.

Do you remember on what page are thos pics?

[CyberAkuma]

I don't remember if it was here on SRK, but it would be cool that Order Sol was replaced by True Gear Form Sol, they can give him all his moveset

Possibly the best thing about them working with 3D models this time? They could stand to do both of that.

"Preorder now, and UNLOCK the UNBRIDLED POWER OF SOL in his TRUE GEAR FORM*!!!"

(Superscriptese subtext: "This is really just an EX Costume for Order Sol with a different voice pack. But we're trusting you're not reading that close enough to see that.")

[Kitsoru]

Do you remember on what page are thos pics?

Original source since it's on hand easier and I was the one who found 'em anyway lol.

[floatwater]

I just hope that they keep it similar to this

/snip/

inb4 le donte DT fayve

[LeonD]

3D GG means better IK isn't it? IMO at least they'll have to pull out some cinematic IK cuz the old IK look SOOOOOOOO lame! :P

[kosmos badgirl]

Hello! Ishiwatari here.

On 19/05, the library celebrated 25 years of Arc System Works held at Pacifico Yokohama was announced the new version of the Guilty Gear series, called Guilty Gear-XRD-SIGN!

I would like to pass a message to all the readers of this blog.

First of all, thank you to all the fans of the Guilty Gear series, who waited so long for a new version.

It's been six years since the Guilty Gear 2 Overture, the last completely new version.

The last fighting game I drove was the Guilty Gear XX # Reload, I was satisfied with the result and it was starting to explore a new genre with Guilty Gear 2.

But after spending time the 2D fighting games again be recognized and started thinking "well, maybe I should go back to making 2D fighting games, but would like to give a sense of novelty?".

Just as Guilty Gear caused surprise when first came out in the arcades, I wanted everyone to feel that impact again. So found that a new system and was crucial to this visual effect.

"It is possible to evolve more in the process of creating characters in 2D fighting games?" And "Will use the techniques of creating 3D characters to recreate 2D impact could cause this?". With this in mind we adopt 3D production.

Since then we started to use 3D but seeking a solution so that he seemed 2D. After many experiments and tests to understand how to make this work, we finally found a practical way. We ended up leaving everyone waiting for a long time, but now I wonder if the impact was strong enough?

The Guilty Gear series is a long series, which has existed for many years. The development of the series so far was adding new components to the solid foundation of the game, but this time we'll start from scratch and review the entire system, we are very dedicated to his system.

This is what they call a 'back to top' is not it? So much for fans who play today as they will start now, we basically put everyone in the same starting position, giving a feeling of 'new game'.

And finally, a few words conceptual ...

To 'reset' everything that has accumulated so far, we can hone it to something simpler. Not as a 'successor', but as an 'expansion'.

It is clear that the revival of the Guilty Gear series with XRD-SIGN-have in mind the fans who supported the series so far, but we're trying to develop something that players can now also start having fun! Wait!

Thanks to hitconfirm for the translation to Portuguese, I used google to translate it to english.

[BladeOfJustice7]

I also hope they make DI not just a "die faster and look stylish while doing it" mode and actually make it useful like install supers should be. They're mostly used for comebacks when used properly and effectively, and DI has been everything but that.

But I do agree with the sentiments behind Sol looking more "Gear-like" than the other versions of GG perhaps even as much as in Overture form. But it makes me wonder if Ky has realized Sol isn't human and how he feels about that. Because I'm pretty sure after Overture he must've realized Sol isn't human, but he still doesn't shy away from fighting him.

And what is with this sentiment behind Overdrive cutscenes for supers DURING the typical superflash you'd get in a game, would slow down GG? And I wonder if the cutscenes only occur for trademark supers like RTL and TR, since Sacred Edge didn't get one.

[LeonD]

And what is with this sentiment behind Overdrive cutscenes for supers DURING the typical superflash you'd get in a game, would slow down GG? And I wonder if the cutscenes only occur for trademark supers like RTL and TR, since Sacred Edge didn't get one.

I agreed with you for the cutscenes, but the game is still in development so I think that they haven't created the cutscene for Ky's SE yet.

[Circuitous]

Sounds like Xrd really will be rebuilding GG from scratch. I'm pretty excited for that, personally.

[Kitsoru]

But I do agree with the sentiments behind Sol looking more "Gear-like" than the other versions of GG perhaps even as much as in Overture form. But it makes me wonder if Ky has realized Sol isn't human and how he feels about that. Because I'm pretty sure after Overture he must've realized Sol isn't human, but he still doesn't shy away from fighting him.

Absolutely, there's no way by Overture Ky didn't know. And the fact that Dr Paradigm was openly talking about him being Frederick and a Gear, etc, it's clear he knew. Sol's Overture story still (still) isn't translated but it may be mentioned there as well.. But hell, you could argue Ky knew (intuitively) by the end of AC+, just by his storymode dialogue (the way he makes the connection from the conversation about Gears w/ Dizzy --> going to fight Sol a final time to settle his feelings on the matter).

At this point, Ky fighting Sol is merely symbolic lol. He knows he won't win, but it's the principal of the matter rather (as seen in his dialogue).

[Klein]

Yeah, I'm definitely okay with an even footing with everyone else as long as it keeps some basics. Don't add rolltech plz Daisuke.

[LeonD]

Yeah, I'm definitely okay with an even footing with everyone else as long as it keeps some basics. Don't add rolltech plz Daisuke.

Dat'll turn GG -> BB

[BladeOfJustice7]

I agreed with you for the cutscenes, but the game is still in development so I think that they haven't created the cutscene for Ky's SE yet.

That's what I was thinking too. I'm excited to see what CSE will look like :3 it looked awesome is GG2

But I woudl still like to know why people feel "cutscenes" for supers will slow the game down.

Sounds like Xrd really will be rebuilding GG from scratch. I'm pretty excited for that, personally.

if that's the case what do you suppose they'll change? I can't help but think "easier access", and by that I mean SF4 nonsense to some level. I'm not too worried since what we saw, though it was a prototype, was still the same speed as any other version of GG.

Absolutely, there's no way by Overture Ky didn't know. And the fact that Dr Paradigm was openly talking about him being Frederick and a Gear, etc, it's clear he knew. Sol's Overture story still (still) isn't translated but it may be mentioned there as well.. But hell, you could argue Ky knew (intuitively) by the end of AC+, just by his storymode dialogue (the way he makes the connection from the conversation about Gears w/ Dizzy --> going to fight Sol a final time to settle his feelings on the matter).

At this point, Ky fighting Sol is merely symbolic lol. He knows he won't win, but it's the principal of the matter rather (as seen in his dialogue).

Them opposing views lol, gotta love those two for that. They both want to same ends, which is to help people, they just have completely different ways of going about getting it done. And thus can't see eye to eye, or at least for not very long, before they scuffle.

[destruction_adv]

I don't remember if it was here on SRK, but it would be cool that Order Sol was replaced by True Gear Form Sol, they can give him all his moveset

I can see that. For some reason, I don't see Order-Sol returning, unless it's as DLC.

As far as Xrd being a reset goes, I wonder how different it'll really be. It looked a lot like #Reload in the trailer, so maybe it'll be closer to that.

Edited May 24, 2013 by destruction_adv