Chrono Phantasma Story Discussion [fun tentatively allowed again]

[Shinhwa]

Yeah i know that guy who is uploading 2 episodes per day on youtube...it helps a lot though i have no idea about wth they are talking about 'cause the subtitles are in Japanese...

I understand them because I understand Japanese, however although I can understand what they are saying, I cannot read the subtitles with 100% understanding as I am still learning Japanese writing, where I am unable to read a lot of the kanji lol. So I rely on hearing the stuff characters say instead of reading.

However I still havent watched all of them yet because of the time XD;;

The other guy who did a live stream of his gameplay of BBCP had actually posted the entire story except they were unorganized did not point out what is in what order, so I just watched randomly and then I watched the Ending + Epilogue.

[Finalt2h2]

Something about needing his dad in order to be able to save Ada. I think it's pretty stupid too.

Relius told Carl that he would prepare a vessel for Ada and return her soul from Nirvana which in turn releasing her from her doll form much like how he did Terumi by preparing the Hazama vessel

[Finalt2h2]

- :Y

-Kokonoe brought her to the future

-Used to protect him from the cauldron, which was used to send him to the past

-Gave his jacket and sword to Celica, which is how Ragna gets it from Jubei

-Still in her basement

Actually:

- Much like Hazama's body made by Relius, Kokonoe made a body for Celica and copied all the properties of her and made an identical soul with all her memories from the Dark War which is Celica in the game.

- Correct. Rachel used the unit to protect Ragna from the buondry so he won't get lost, damaged beyond healing or well....dying.

- He only gave Celica the jacket. The sword was recovered by Jubei after the beast allegedly killed Ragna. Which explains why he got nothing on him when he came back.

[mAc Chaos]

What does Time Killer do again? And are there any statements explaining it?

[Tokkan]

What does Time Killer do again? And are there any statements explaining it?

It kills people off by removing their remaining time to live? I think that was the explanation of what it does. It can't be used on Izanami because she can't be killed (you can't kill death).

[mAc Chaos]

Anything that anyone says about it though. That sounds like typical Mori so far.

[Zedar90]

劫魔滅殺(gouma messatsu)　虚空陣奥義(kokuujin ougi)　刻殺(tokigoroshi). What Hakumen said after using it: I have killed the time you possess, its over.

[mAc Chaos]

OK, cool. Anything else? Like with Izanami or elsewhere giving more info.

[Zedar90]

OK, cool. Anything else? Like with Izanami or elsewhere giving more info.

Hakumen seems to only have used it 3 times in the story, 1) Arakune arcade, or atleast he tried to but Arakune ran away before Hakumen was ready since he knew he was in big trouble. 2) Against Terumi. 3) Against Izanami, Izanami said: Sword that kills "time", huh. To bad for you. My "time" is already dead.

[BlackYakuzu94]

New Distortion?

[mAc Chaos]

1. Time Killer.

2. Rachel states Hakumen can't kill Kusanagi.

Discuss.

[Shinhwa]

I rewatched the epilogue, and Rachel indeed said "You or Jin Kisaragi must kill Ragna the Bloodedge before he dies"

[BlackYakuzu94]

Even so, you think Jin is gonna share his prey? He flat out tells Tsubaki in her Arcade mode that he, and only he, will be the one to take Ragna's head and he isn't going to let anyone, not even her, stand in his way.

[TheYukianesa-01]

Even so, you think Jin is gonna share his prey? He flat out tells Tsubaki in her Arcade mode that he, and only he, will be the one to take Ragna's head and he isn't going to let anyone, not even her, stand in his way.

Jin can't do much as long as he's not healed up. Besides, is he even strong enough alone? It's Ragna that got him bedridden, wasn't it?

[Luminos564]

Even so, you think Jin is gonna share his prey? He flat out tells Tsubaki in her Arcade mode that he, and only he, will be the one to take Ragna's head and he isn't going to let anyone, not even her, stand in his way.

Yeah, and it is that very kind of thinking that came back to bite him in the ass in Wheel of Fortune. Just ask Haku-men for the details.

I rewatched the epilogue, and Rachel indeed said "You or Jin Kisaragi must kill Ragna the Bloodedge before he dies"

So wait, then why would Rachel request that Tsubaki kill her, if either Jin or Tsubaki killing him gets the same desired result (preventing Ragna's "Evil")? Was that explained at all?

[Zedar90]

Yeah, and it is that very kind of thinking that came back to bite him in the ass in Wheel of Fortune. Just ask Haku-men for the details.

So wait, then why would Rachel request that Tsubaki kill her, if either Jin or Tsubaki killing him gets the same desired result (preventing Ragna's "Evil")? Was that explained at all?

Tsubaki is the only one who can kill Rachel using "Imortal Breaker" so Rachel asks Tsubaki to kill her if Tsubaki or Jin fails to kill Ragna before he dies.

[BlackYakuzu94]

Either way, both Jin & Tsubaki have work to do in the next game; I am expecting justice speeches.

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[Shinhwa]

But what does Rachel have to do with the Evil residing in Ragna?

[harmless kitten]

But what does Rachel have to do with the Evil residing in Ragna?

No one seems to really know. Next game!

[Shinhwa]

Kagura is seriously hilarious. I am glad his seiyuu (voice actor) is Fujiwara Keiji. It really fits his character XD

I loved the scene where he tried to flirt with Noel. It was too hilarious, except then Makoto kept hitting him XP

[Chaoschao222]

Enough. This is not the thread for likelihood, probability, maybe, perhaps. All of that bullshit. Take it to the speculation thread.

[Shinhwa]

The Korean players are saying that Izanami had made BOTH Ragna and Nu go berserk at the Ending. I will have to rewatch the Ending again to confirm, but the Korean sources are saying that Izanami appeared then made Nu and Ragna go berserk, making Nu stab Ragna and Ragna going Beast mode.

[Skye]

So much stuff...

Can there be a full synopsis of BBCP story (including gag reels) in one post?

Please!!??

And Thank you.

[Koopa_Klawz]

Anyone telling me what the conversations between Bullet/Azrael and Ragna/Nu when they're inside Take were about? Before Ragna and Nu were about to fight, Nu said "Ragna" while sounding like she was getting pissed.

[Shinhwa]

So much stuff...

Can there be a full synopsis of BBCP story (including gag reels) in one post?

Please!!??

And Thank you.

That's going to be difficult... you can try going through the first few pages to see the whole BBCP plot.

Anyone telling me what the conversations between Bullet/Azrael and Ragna/Nu when they're inside Take were about? Before Ragna and Nu were about to fight, Nu said "Ragna" while sounding like she was getting pissed.

Don't remember the Bullet/Azrael conversation, but I know the whole Ragna/Nu conversation. (Because Ragna and Nu is pretty much the thing I mostly care about in this game XD)

After Ragna and Celica goes inside Takemikazuchi, Nu greets Ragna as "Ragna-san", and the way she speaks becomes the same way Noel speaks (you can say that Nu = Noel due to the synchronization). Ragna tells Nu to not speak that way, but Nu tells him that she is Noel Vermillion, where Ragna denies it and tells her she is Nu.

Somehow Nu was able to obtain a memory that not even Noel could remember (Noel cannot remember her past before getting adopted into the Vermillion family). Nu tells Ragna about Noel's past. Apparently during the war between Sector Seven and NOL, because Sector 7 wanted to win badly, they tried to create a Black Beast. The ones who were going to fuse were Terumi and Mu-12/Noel, but since Noel had memories of Saya, who knew that Terumi was the one responsible of messing up Saya's family, where Jin goes weird and Ragna losing his arm, she did not want to fuse with someone who was the culprit of causing that. Apparently at the time, Takemikazuchi had fired upon them, where the experiment was cancelled and Noel had been "saved" from getting fused with Terumi. Nu says not even she would want to fuse with someone who had taken her family away from her. Ragna wonders how she would have a "family" when she was artificially made.

Ragna tells Nu that she has indirectly told him that she wants to be saved, and Nu tells him she did not say such thing, but Ragna tells her that what she told him was something like her telling him that she wants to be saved by him. Ragna tells her that he has not come to kill her or destroy her. Nu gets pissed about the way Ragna is right now, saying if Ragna is not going to stop all the bullshit he is speaking, she will definitely kill him for real. Then Ragna tells her to bring it on, where he beats her, then Nu goes in denial how Ragna became stronger than her, but Ragna tells her that she is just weak. Nu loses consciousness then Ragna grabs her quickly in a "Princess Carry" position (KYAAAAAA <3 <3 <3). He comments that Nu looks like Noel when sleeping, and Celica tells him she looks cute.

Then they get out (they had no idea how to get out, but Minerva had helped them get out of Takemikazuchi's core), then Jin and Noel comes, where they tell Ragna that he has been inside Takemikazuchi's core for only 3 seconds (The time flow was different in there). Hakumen tries to kill Nu, saying she is going to bring a disaster in the future, but Ragna and Celica stops him from killing her. Then Izanami appears, where Ragna tries to defeat her to no avail. Hakumen tries to use his Time Killer attack, but of course since Izanami = Death, which means she does not live on a Time, it doesn't affect her. Phantom forcefully teleports Hakumen away, and Noel transforms into Mu-12, where Izanami comments that because Mu-12 is a God Killer, Izanami herself should become serious. Izanami then makes Nu stab Ragna in the back, where Nu also tells Ragna not to say any bullshit about saving her, in her yandere tone (after this, no one knows what the hell happened to her because that was the last of her dialogue). Izanami then forcefully makes Ragna's Blazblue berserk and bring out Black Beast from him. He tells Jin and Noel to take Celica and run, but they refuse. Minerva takes Celica and runs, while Jin and Noel tries to fight against the berserk Ragna. After Tsubaki finds Jin and Noel, they were both injured and unconscious and Ragna was gone.

Edited November 5, 2013 by Shinhwa