Chrono Phantasma Speculations/Theories [rules updated 10/14]

[00Bubbles00]

Perhaps Saya's soul was ejected from her body why Izanami took over, and Saya's soul now resides in either Nu-13 or Noel.

[Shinhwa]

Perhaps Saya's soul was ejected from her body why Izanami took over, and Saya's soul now resides in either Nu-13 or Noel.

No, because Izanami told Ragna that she can feel Saya's love towards Ragna. So her soul is pretty much trapped inside the body.

[Malcopunch]

I would love to see them introduce this as a playable charcter in the next game ( Maybe as the new Nu-13 after Ragna's soul fuses with her)

http://www.dustloop.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=2695&d=1383457690

[Shinhwa]

I would love to see them introduce this as a playable charcter in the next game ( Maybe as the new Nu-13 after Ragna's soul fuses with her)

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Invalid attachment. Anyhow I am sure you are talking about the Red Murakumo Unit art.

Sadly I seriously don't want Nu-13 disappearing from the face of the planet whatsoever next game. I want her to live. D:

[Shinhwa]

Something just crossed my mind. If Celica does have the ability to suppress seithr, doesn't that mean she can like save Ragna from his berserk state kind of with the same logic of when he couldn't use his right arm, right eye and Blazblue?

[Luminos564]

Something just crossed my mind. If Celica does have the ability to suppress seithr, doesn't that mean she can like save Ragna from his berserk state kind of with the same logic of when he couldn't use his right arm, right eye and Blazblue?

Not really an option now. See Kokonoe installed a "Celica-nullify" device on/in Ragna's artificial arm (the one he blew up to save Noel in CS, not his Azure arm) which enabled him to use his Azure Grimoire and seithr while in Celica's presence. And though that served well in halting Take-Mikazuchi and Nu-13, it came back to bite the heroes in the ass once Beast!Ragna emerged.

Long and short of it: they need to take out the device first if they hope to suppress that transformation. Unfortunately this also presents a dilemma since that ultimately leaves Ragna severely weakened and unable to do much of anything. Either they keep the device and run the risk of Beast!Ragna wrecking their collective hides, or destroy the device to allow Celica to neutralize it but be down a powerful player. At least, that's the predicament they're in at the moment.

[Shinhwa]

Oh right... forgot about the device... my bad..

[kylehyde]

The only predicament they seem to be in is how to kill Ragna lol. Either by Jin or Tsubaki, no one seems to be talking about a way to save him, sadly. =/

[BlackYakuzu94]

Its probably one of those standard "There's no hope for him" deal, but Ragna, being the stubborn bastard he is, is probably just gonna suppress the beast. He's already been shown to be able to restrain his blazblue if need be, so its not like it wouldn't foreshadowed.

[arctus32]

Don't forget the fact that Terumi wanted to be the Black Beast prior to these events, without any clear reason as to why he wants to be one.

[kylehyde]

Its probably one of those standard "There's no hope for him" deal, but Ragna, being the stubborn bastard he is, is probably just gonna suppress the beast. He's already been shown to be able to restrain his blazblue if need be, so its not like it wouldn't foreshadowed.

I have no doubt in my mind that he's going to overcome it and basically become the most powerful character in the game in the process. My pet peeve is how no one is talking about saving him, instead their talking about killing him. Just story related stuff that irks me

[harmless kitten]

According to Jin in CS, he believes that killing Ragna IS saving him haha.

Rachel didn't think it was possible to save Mu either, and Ragna proved her wrong. I'll be more surprised if he does die at the end, especially with the theme of rebelling against fate this series loves.

[raziel12]

well all i know is that Celica and noel wont agree to killing ragna i think i see 2 ppl planing to run away to look for him lol

[BlackYakuzu94]

According to Jin in CS, he believes that killing Ragna IS saving him haha.

Rachel didn't think it was possible to save Mu either, and Ragna proved her wrong. I'll be more surprised if he does die at the end, especially with the theme of rebelling against fate this series loves.

Its funny because I thought Jin was just being...ya know, Jin but there's some truth to what he said; Ragna just got shitted on so hard in this game that killing him might be preferable.

[Luminos564]

well all i know is that Celica and noel wont agree to killing ragna i think i see 2 ppl planing to run away to look for him lol

Don't forget Taokaka and, potentially, Makoto (they seem rather friendly towards each other in their matches though I haven't seen much of them together in Story). So that's 3 or 4 people that could protest to the notion of killing him. Strangely enough, Izanami may also count. Granted she said she'd enjoy watching him suffer though she admits she'd rather have him by her side instead.

[Shinhwa]

Ragna is somewhat a girl magnet even without the Spectacles of Eros 8D

And how can Ragna "die", when he has Life Link with Nu? I thought neither of them can die unless they die at the same time or something.

[Zedar90]

Ragna is somewhat a girl magnet even without the Spectacles of Eros 8D

And how can Ragna "die", when he has Life Link with Nu? I thought neither of them can die unless they die at the same time or something.

I wouldn't take the dying as literal, more as Ragna will lose all control and become a mindless unstoppable Beast.

[Shinhwa]

I wouldn't take the dying as literal, more as Ragna will lose all control and become a mindless unstoppable Beast.

That would be too tragic if you ask me T__T

He had more developments and became stronger this game and now it's all going to go to waste? EW NO

[mAc Chaos]

That's why Jin thinks killing him is saving him.

[Zedar90]

-No.5- is located on Ragna once again, this time on his belt on the L.A Vocal album Cover art which was drawn by Mori. Can be hard to Read since unlike the game this picture is "low" res, but on the bottom left side you can read the text: -NO.5- Es.

Image:http://imgur.com/xQUCuSg.png

Old?

[Tokkan]

Es... That's interesting. L.A. Vocal Edition came out months before Xblaze was even announced at BlueRevo.

[Zedar90]

Es... That's interesting. L.A. Vocal Edition came out months before Xblaze was even announced at BlueRevo.

It's only about 6 months before, wouldn't be strange if the whole "Embryo Storage" was already decided.

Or the S could be a 5 and the E could be for Epsilon, but I think the curves is more towards S and it is quite different from the 5 in the "NO.5".

[Tong]

Wasn't there also a No.5 written on his chest? It was on BBCS2 Accord cover iirc

[Zedar90]

Wasn't there also a No.5 written on his chest? It was on BBCS2 Accord cover iirc

Yes, the No.5 was on the cover of "BlazBlue Song Accord 2 with Continuum Shift II" aswell as on this picture:http://i.imgur.com/rROZTi7.jpg.

[raziel12]

dammm it they need to hurry up and talk about wat was going on at the lab where he and jin and saya was held at crap make it a novel of something