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Reminds me of when people thought carl was shit because a small played base. Like why was he ever bad? Because no one played him??? Horrible reason

If that`s the case then Valk is squirrel tier.

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Reminds me of when people thought carl was shit because a small played base. Like why was he ever bad? Because no one played him??? Horrible reason

 

During the early CT days, people listed Carl even below Tager in tier lists. Then the clap loop infinite was discovered. :v:

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Carl has never been bad, he just has glaring weaknesses in his game (awful defense, low health, suspect neutral, below average footsies) but he is still at least A tier (thank you nee-san).

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I thought he was low tier because of his learning curve?

 

 

 

And it must be a pretty hilarious world when the likes of Ragna & Jin are in the same tier as Makoto and Tsubaki :V

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And it must be a pretty hilarious world when the likes of Ragna & Jin are in the same tier as Makoto and Tsubaki :V

Mah boy, that world is what all true game designers strive for.
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I thought he was low tier because of his learning curve?

 

 

 

And it must be a pretty hilarious world when the likes of Ragna & Jin are in the same tier as Makoto and Tsubaki :V

Again, if that was the case then Valk would be squirrel tier. Learning curve has nothing to do with tier placing, or Ragna would ALWAYS be S tier.

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So why the hell is Carl always placed in low tier? He always seemed like a pretty solid character despite his flaws.

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So why the hell is Carl always placed in low tier? He always seemed like a pretty solid character despite his flaws.

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I'd love to get ahold of that list you speak of

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I think this was like a fan list from EX, people were like "he's low cuz he's hard to use" so I guess they were judging by ease of use rather than character strengths.

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Why do you guys consider yourselves better than these casuals, again?

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Why do you guys consider yourselves better than these casuals, again?

Has nothing to do with being better than anyone. But if your criteria for judging character strength is based on said characters execution barrier, their point is pretty suspect wouldn't you say?

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Maybe if there were more Carl players it would be easier to understand his greatness. I've never get to play against any other Carls than Niko, so, yeah.

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Nobody ever thought Carl was bad in CP. Except for during CP1.0 loketests.

 

Actually, most of the Japanese Carl mains did, switching to characters like Litchi and Jin because 1.0 Carl had "too many bad matchups to be competitive" in their opinion.

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Didn't ryuusei say he hated certain matchups in 1.0, such as Jin who he thought Carl doesn't win against? I feel like i heard that somewhere, or an interview. I'm ignorant in how he's changed in 1.1, but Dio and everyone else starts playing Carl again haha. 

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I think this was like a fan list from EX, people were like "he's low cuz he's hard to use" so I guess they were judging by ease of use rather than character strengths.

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I think you are confused; The "fan tier list"  to which I think you are referring was basically a list of "How hard is this character to use" not "How good is this character".  And yes, Carl is going to be near the bottom if not at the bottom of that list, along with Rachel, Valk, and several other very good characters.

 

I think you are confused.

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Man idk. I have no idea how he was able to do it. Like he took the power from doras spirit bomb and just infused his own

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haha. Interesting when Galileo started using 6B feints into low jabs the last round before the reset. So many isolated adaptations for my scrubby brain. I probably won't play online until after EVO. Dora's timeout blocking, command grab super cuz you know he wanted it. Stream chat people seeing Dogura's astral for the first time. Just a lot of moments in that top 8. 

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Watching Boredom Instinct (and everything else on evo) is impossible after Galileo's epic struggle.

That game is painful to watch

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Man it was beautiful but it hurt.

 

Dogura had so many opportunities. Somehow Galileo took it all and won 6 times.

 

It's just insane, that amount of skill, under all that pressure. Top respect.

 

Dogura vs Dora would have been better for grand finals tho.

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