-Seo Posted August 9, 2014 Posted August 9, 2014 Could someone translate these few Kagura changes? Bファフナー・・・現在のファフナーと比べて若干小振りで隙や硬直も少なくなったが頭無敵のみ Cファフナー・・・全身無敵かつ上空の相手を狩れるほどの高度まで飛び上がるがガード時確反。空ガ可？ 5C、2Cの判定強化？ 6DAhit時の硬直減少 構えキャンセル中にバリガ張れるように 2DCの2段目が地上喰らい時回転よろけ誘発→しゃがみ喰らい限定コンボに意味が。（例：5BB>5C>2DC） 2DB2段目に裏まで攻撃判定出るように 2DAヒット時バウンド→2DA>B縛の起き攻め削除 5DCの壁張り付き時間減少 B縛hit時のモーション変更→2Cで拾いづらい場面が増える Please and thank you!
Sourenga Posted August 9, 2014 Posted August 9, 2014 Could someone translate these few Kagura changes? Something like this... *B-Fafner it smaller compared to the current one. Head invincibility and short recovery. *C-Fafner has full-body invincibility and it rises higher than the current Fafner. If blocked, the opponent can easily counter it. Air blockable? *5C, 2C have increased hitboxes? *6DA reduced recovery on hit *You can use Barrier during Stance Cancel *2DC's second hit causes spinning stagger on ground hit -> Means a lot in crouch-only combos (Example: 5BB>5C>2DC) *2DB's second hit has hitbox increased so it reaches behind Kagura *2DA causes bounce -> 2DA>B-Spirit okizeme has been eliminated *5DC has decreased wallstick *B-Spirit has changed hit motion -> It's a lot more difficult to continue with 2C
Kobuchi Posted August 9, 2014 Posted August 9, 2014 Hi eveyone, I am new to Blazblue and wanted to buy the game for PS3, since I really enjoyed the Evo turnament and got hooked on the game. However, now that I am seeing that the game will get an update, I am hesitant on buying it, since I might have to buy a new game. Do you guys know if this update will come in the form of a DLC, a mandatory update or if you will need to buy a completely new game/disc? I like this forum very much and I am looking foward to playing the game.
-Seo Posted August 9, 2014 Posted August 9, 2014 Something like this... *B-Fafner it smaller compared to the current one. Head invincibility and short recovery. *C-Fafner has full-body invincibility and it rises higher than the current Fafner. If blocked, the opponent can easily counter it. Air blockable? *5C, 2C have increased hitboxes? *6DA reduced recovery on hit *You can use Barrier during Stance Cancel *2DC's second hit causes spinning stagger on ground hit -> Means a lot in crouch-only combos (Example: 5BB>5C>2DC) *2DB's second hit has hitbox increased so it reaches behind Kagura *2DA causes bounce -> 2DA>B-Spirit okizeme has been eliminated *5DC has decreased wallstick *B-Spirit has changed hit motion -> It's a lot more difficult to continue with 2C Awesome, thank you very much!
Rhannmah Posted August 9, 2014 Posted August 9, 2014 Same thing was said about the Ultimax lokitests. There's nothing to worry about. lol
NecroTheReaper Posted August 9, 2014 Posted August 9, 2014 What does character individuality mean, and how has it been lost? None of the characters in this game play alike at all. Maybe their over-all gameplan is the same for certain characters, but that's what the games about. Get in the corner, proceed to kill. Did I miss something? Anyway, its not so much the changes that I'm not feeling confident about, but whats with these vague, opinionated reasons they're giving for changing characters. "Why" is a simle question, saying "cux we felt like it" would make mefeel better than "to restore character individuality"
heavymetalmixer Posted August 9, 2014 Posted August 9, 2014 Hi eveyone, I am new to Blazblue and wanted to buy the game for PS3, since I really enjoyed the Evo turnament and got hooked on the game. However, now that I am seeing that the game will get an update, I am hesitant on buying it, since I might have to buy a new game. Do you guys know if this update will come in the form of a DLC, a mandatory update or if you will need to buy a completely new game/disc? I like this forum very much and I am looking foward to playing the game. Maybe the update for Arcades will be at the end of this year, so for consoles we have to wait even more. Just go buy the game, you still have a lot of time before CP 2.0.
Zeron_X25 Posted August 9, 2014 Posted August 9, 2014 im not really worried about combo nerfing, every single game theyre like "yo we got dis, no more big combos, you'll have to work for it" and then 3 days after launch someone find a 7k hazama combo Nerfed 6C repeat proration cause of CS2 bs. Found 11k combo in CSE.
Skye Posted August 9, 2014 Posted August 9, 2014 What does character individuality mean, and how has it been lost? None of the characters in this game play alike at all. Maybe their over-all gameplan is the same for certain characters, but that's what the games about. Get in the corner, proceed to kill. Did I miss something? Anyway, its not so much the changes that I'm not feeling confident about, but whats with these vague, opinionated reasons they're giving for changing characters. "Why" is a simle question, saying "cux we felt like it" would make mefeel better than "to restore character individuality" I guess that feel way back in CT where each character felt strong in their own little way was lost in the efforts to achieve balance. I remember that feel.
Airk Posted August 9, 2014 Posted August 9, 2014 combo time on F starters has been nerfed universally The heck is an 'F' Starter? The only starter types I know of are N,S and VS/M :P I guess that feel way back in CT where each character felt strong in their own little way was lost in the efforts to achieve balance. I remember that feel. You mean back when most of the cast "felt strong in their own little way" by being F-ing AWFUL?
mAc Chaos Posted August 9, 2014 Posted August 9, 2014 no its true thats one of the main complaints people have had for this version, their character losing their spirit
TD Posted August 9, 2014 Posted August 9, 2014 Hi eveyone, I am new to Blazblue and wanted to buy the game for PS3, since I really enjoyed the Evo turnament and got hooked on the game. However, now that I am seeing that the game will get an update, I am hesitant on buying it, since I might have to buy a new game. Do you guys know if this update will come in the form of a DLC, a mandatory update or if you will need to buy a completely new game/disc? I like this forum very much and I am looking foward to playing the game. no one knows yet. The heck is an 'F' Starter? The only starter types I know of are N,S and VS/M :P You mean back when most of the cast "felt strong in their own little way" by being F-ing AWFUL? fast. equivalent to small or S. before you possibly ask or state; no its not technically called f. no I don't know why he used f instead of s. but it means the same thing.
toanenadiz Posted August 9, 2014 Posted August 9, 2014 no I don't know why he used f instead of s. but it means the same thing. The mook itself lists it as F, so I would guess all of the japanese players refer to it as such.
Kobuchi Posted August 9, 2014 Posted August 9, 2014 Maybe the update for Arcades will be at the end of this year, so for consoles we have to wait even more. Just go buy the game, you still have a lot of time before CP 2.0. Oh ok, so it would be like the Arcade version and the PS3 release of CP on March? That I see videos of people playing it on the Arcade long before we got the release on PS3 Thanks for your replies btw
Airk Posted August 9, 2014 Posted August 9, 2014 Oh ok, so it would be like the Arcade version and the PS3 release of CP on March? That I see videos of people playing it on the Arcade long before we got the release on PS3 Thanks for your replies btwThat's probably a pretty reasonable assessment, unfortunately, although there is some hope that if it's a digital upgrade instead of a whole new physical release, that it will come to the West faster because A) There won't really be much to localize and B) In order to keep the console game versions in sync world wide, they'd want to do a more-or-less simulataneous release. Still, I wouldn't expect anything before 2015.
Ventus Tatshima Posted August 9, 2014 Posted August 9, 2014 Hmmm... the plat changes don't seem that grim but then again this isn't the final result so i'm not too worried
RWA Announcer Posted August 9, 2014 Posted August 9, 2014 So, as someone who started from CSI and never touched CT, this is a bad thing? I was hoping to hold on to my cautious optimism.
Skye Posted August 9, 2014 Posted August 9, 2014 The mook itself lists it as F, so I would guess all of the japanese players refer to it as such. When updating the wiki, the staff decided to Americanize the starter notations so they sound more uniform. The official is actually F, for "Fast", we call it S for "Short".
TD Posted August 9, 2014 Posted August 9, 2014 learn something new everyday. anyone know when the next test will be? haven't heard any huge news in a bit. is it today or tomorrow?
Surf Posted August 9, 2014 Posted August 9, 2014 So they nerfed S starter combo times universally? Why Kind of felt the same when they nerfed the 90 P1 air normals to 80 P1
Errol Posted August 9, 2014 Posted August 9, 2014 Yeah, it probably went from 360 to 420, something like that. Or it might be that they shaved 60 off the timer for all combos and it is more noticeable on F.
Surf Posted August 9, 2014 Posted August 9, 2014 Might be why some combo routes aren't working despite the properties of the moves not really changing.
Soviet Bear Posted August 9, 2014 Posted August 9, 2014 You mean back when most of the cast "felt strong in their own little way" by being F-ing AWFUL? As far as character balance was concerned, I really only ever felt like Nu was too powerful and mashing left/right when frozen by Jin was stupid. I do agree with what mAc said about characters losing their spirit. Even if some stuff ended up being objectively better for some characters (lol Haku damage), it's a complaint I've heard from Haku and Tager players, for example.
NecroTheReaper Posted August 9, 2014 Posted August 9, 2014 What do all these changes have to do with pist CT characters then? I only feel like this is a complaint for people that played CT cuz CT was the first time they played that character. Since I started playing, Relius has only been in 2 games, and he hasn't beeen changed much through either. I can only imagine what the CP characters "spirit" is if it wasnt brought out the first timesomeone played them.
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