chzchan Posted September 19, 2014 Posted September 19, 2014 I was thinking about that too. Misleading low invlun on second hit while still leading into a low attack. Probably RC into air normals.
-Seo Posted September 19, 2014 Posted September 19, 2014 You could probably space it so the first hit whiffs and the second hit connects. Catch out people who actually block the overhead.
Ziggy_Stardust Posted September 19, 2014 Posted September 19, 2014 So, Celica is gonna pretty high tier, right?
SoWL Posted September 19, 2014 Posted September 19, 2014 So, Celica is gonna pretty high tier, right? What tier list are you even talking about?
Myoro Posted September 19, 2014 Posted September 19, 2014 So, Celica is gonna pretty high tier, right? Without knowledge of her full capabilities and the capabilities of other characters, it's neigh impossible to make a call like that.
chzchan Posted September 19, 2014 Posted September 19, 2014 So, Celica is gonna pretty high tier, right? Looking like it. I wouldn't say high tier, but more along the lines of strong character. I remember people saying Izayoi was going to be incredibly overpowered when she came out, but with the restrictions of her drive, resource system and teleports as well as the awkwardness of her normals that didn't end up happening. Celica has most likely gorilla+ tier hitbox structure for her normals and specials, a chargeable DP that gets invuln while it is charging, a large and fast projectile, super duper easy combos and straightforward neutral with automixup to top it off. If people figure out how to make her do more damage then she will become Unlimited Azrael. It doesn't seem like she has any of these potential restrictions. Everything looks really good for her so far. Like scary good.
Zouf Posted September 19, 2014 Posted September 19, 2014 Jin and Kagura still use their overheads despite not being cancelable. Jin was safe before 1.1 (and can cancel it with the throw to remain safe) and Kagura can cancel it with another D move afaik.
Ziggy_Stardust Posted September 19, 2014 Posted September 19, 2014 That was probably a horrible way of putting it. I should of said that she has a potential to be high tier. I haven't seen many videos yet, but I do lurk the discussion quite a bit. From what I can tell she has great normals and specials, plus a really good backdash. Plus add in a healing ability and in the hands of a great player she seems scary. But like myoro said we don't know everything yet.
Myoro Posted September 19, 2014 Posted September 19, 2014 Jin was safe before 1.1 (and can cancel it with the throw to remain safe) and Kagura can cancel it with another D move afaik. 1.1 happened so Kags can't do that no mo'
chzchan Posted September 19, 2014 Posted September 19, 2014 plus a really good backdash. Oh you just reminded me she has the Murakumo large distance slide backdash. Oh boy.
Ziggy_Stardust Posted September 19, 2014 Posted September 19, 2014 Oh you just reminded me she has the Murakumo large distance slide backdash. Oh boy. Meesa so sorry.
shtkn Posted September 19, 2014 Posted September 19, 2014 Jin was safe before 1.1 (and can cancel it with the throw to remain safe) that's wrong. you could only 6A > throw on hit. that's still true in 1.1, but might be removed in 2.0 if the location test notes remain true.
Anne Posted September 19, 2014 Posted September 19, 2014 So, Celica is gonna pretty high tier, right?Let's not go down this road.
Zouf Posted September 19, 2014 Posted September 19, 2014 that's wrong. you could only 6A > throw on hit. that's still true in 1.1, but might be removed in 2.0 if the location test notes remain true. I stand corrected
bakahyl Posted September 19, 2014 Posted September 19, 2014 For the people who want to see the entire stream (not just the gameplay snippets) with all the long talks included https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CN8b2PohUXo
Zedar90 Posted September 19, 2014 Posted September 19, 2014 For the people who want to see the entire stream (not just the gameplay snippets) with all the long talks included https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CN8b2PohUXo Just one thing to note, that's not the entire stream. It did continue on after they fixed the video problem with that started with the Xblaze PV.
bakahyl Posted September 19, 2014 Posted September 19, 2014 then i made a mistake when i was copying the stream o_o edit: i see i made the mistake of trying to directly download the rtmp stream from the timeshift instead of recording the stream (the latter is much more timeconsuming ) later edit: I also remember that they had a technical difficulty when they were showing the xblaze trailer and the stream apparently gets cut off because of that last edit: the last remaining 15 minutes https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWbJWzet11Q
TD Posted September 19, 2014 Posted September 19, 2014 ugh, celica looks so bland... though the mixup potential is definitely there, and she does seem like she will be fairly easy to pick up. will try.
Luminos564 Posted September 19, 2014 Posted September 19, 2014 Cool beans. Celica looks fun, but then again I had an interest in her since the beginning. Which I admit is a first for me since I generally have no desire to play any "overly cutesy" characters (my hatred of Platinum should be more than enough indication) but I'm willing to let it slide here. I only wish they showed the Crush Trigger animation for her. That was the only thing I felt was missing from the showcase.
swordsman09 Posted September 20, 2014 Posted September 20, 2014 omg All this talk about Celica. I would kill myself right now if somehow Mori made her untouchable during Relius' astral.
D.R.F. Posted September 20, 2014 Posted September 20, 2014 omg All this talk about Celica. I would kill myself right now if somehow Mori made her untouchable during Relius' astral. But celica waifu
Tokkan Posted September 20, 2014 Posted September 20, 2014 omg All this talk about Celica. I would kill myself right now if somehow Mori made her untouchable during Relius' astral. You know, if you're that easy to rile up when it comes to Celica then you might as well paint a huge target on your face and wear a sign proclaiming you as a prime trolling fodder.
LeDom Posted September 20, 2014 Posted September 20, 2014 omg All this talk about Celica. I would kill myself right now if somehow Mori made her untouchable during Relius' astral. That's a pretty unhealthy amount of hatred you've got here. She actually looks really fun to play and there definitely is potential, though it's way too soon to start arguing about how OP she is. Those streams are likely meant to show off her strenghts rather than her shortcomings.
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