[Xrd] Potemkin Gameplay Discussion

[Henaki]

potemkin buster just seems straight up bad in this game, its the worst version hes ever had lol

[XXXDC]

See you in Xrd+.

I'm with Mike here.

And yeah, the whole hp/guts system and damage output for some characters seems really retarded atm.

[Flick]

Wow corner PB can be followed by 5K and probably >2S>Heat, at least on Axl

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AvTJp8Tyg1o at 1:20, i don't know how to post the exact time, sry :-(

Finally can see something to be optimistic :D

[Flick]

Do you feel like the same with me, but i think the new lifebar is quite deceptive :-(, took 3 PB to take off Bedman's last 30%

Or the damage of PB has been nerfed, i don't even want to think about that @@

Edited February 28, 2014 by Flick

[badgerfan20945]

Do you feel like the same with me, but i think the new lifeguard is quite deceptive :-(, took 3 PB to take off Bedman's last 30%

Or the damage of PB has been nerfed, i don't even want to think about that @@

Looks like a damage nerf to me. That or bedman's guts rating is amazing.

[Mike Z]

Wow corner PB can be followed by 5K and probably >2S>Heat, at least on Axl

Finally can see something to be optimistic :D

Nope, that was OTG, you can see the dust circle Axl makes from landing.

(Also to post a time rightclick the vid -> "Copy video URL at current time" :^)

CH Giganter -> 6H was basically instant stun though.

Does anyone know if he still gets 5P->2S vs air? I mean, the way things are going I bet not, but I should ask...

[Flick]

Oh i see, ty. So now we have an AC-style Pot Buster w/o FRC, and in addition to that - range and maybe damage nerfed

[Henaki]

Yep, like I said, the worst version of Pot Buster yet.

It really needs to just do more damage. Pot buster should do anywhere between 1/4th to 5/16ths of a total lifebar. 4 pot busters should kill a character. it currently looks like it takes like 5 or 6.

im hoping someone figures out something involving 6k mid screen because he really needs scary damage since he doesn't have that many other tools. Potemkin looks like he has lower than average damage lol.

Edited February 28, 2014 by Henaki

[Appledash-]

^agreed. Being able to brutalize people with one move is the best thing about Potemkin. Lower than average damage shouldn't something associated with a character that works so hard to get in and is on the receiving end of the most damaging character specific combos courtesy of his enormous hitbox.

At least he looks really cool.

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[Blackhearth]

we can hope for an update on Potemkin right?..... RIGHT? ;_;

I mean, everytime I enter this tread I go out with a sad panda face. Eddie is already bullshit tier in Ogawa hands, Potemkin is struggling to FIND SOMETHING DECENT TO DO(saw that po vs axl video and the damage axl did on Pot is retarded) :v

[Osuna]

The really tragic thing is that typically grapplers slide down the tier list as time goes on. Unless something big is discovered, it should only get worse from here.

[Henaki]

The really tragic thing is that typically grapplers slide down the tier list as time goes on. Unless something big is discovered, it should only get worse from here.

this is typically true of most games, but this game resembles #r so much that figuring out characters that will trash pot (like zato), is further along in the game's lifecycle than it normally would be.

grapplers have time advantage in games people know nothing about. a LOT of things carry over into this game.

[Flick]

Yep, like I said, the worst version of Pot Buster yet.

It really needs to just do more damage. Pot buster should do anywhere between 1/4th to 5/16ths of a total lifebar. 4 pot busters should kill a character. it currently looks like it takes like 5 or 6.

im hoping someone figures out something involving 6k mid screen because he really needs scary damage since he doesn't have that many other tools. Potemkin looks like he has lower than average damage lol.

I saw FAB did 5K>5S>2S ... kind of things - i cannot remember >6K>Giganter>Bullet. It take about 55-60% of Axl, from about 85% down to about 30%, It's really cool

Seems that if done near corner, it's can even be followed with 5K>2S>Heat

Edited March 1, 2014 by Flick

[badgerfan20945]

I saw FAB did 5K>5S>2S ... kind of things - i cannot remember >6K>Giganter>Bullet. It take about 55-60% of Axl, from about 85% down to about 30%, It's really cool

Seems that if done near corner, it's can even be followed with 5K>2S>Heat

I think that damage from Gigantor was from hellfire state, so damage will be much higher.

[Flick]

I think that damage from Gigantor was from hellfire state, so damage will be much higher.

Oh yes i completely forgot it, and it only takes about 30% form 40 to 10, i misremembered :P

[Yohosie]

Potemkin is bad. anime grappler struggle continues to be real

[Henaki]

Potemkin is bad. anime grappler struggle continues to be real

arcsys hates grab people

[jak d ripr]

I wouldn't worry too much, arcsys love balancing their titles. I have little doubt that this won't be the game that we'll be playing whenever it comes stateside. Of course, if you're in japan right now then it sucks to be you.

[Osuna]

I wouldn't worry too much, arcsys love balancing their titles. I have little doubt that this won't be the game that we'll be playing whenever it comes stateside. Of course, if you're in japan right now then it sucks to be you.

I'm pretty sure the last two times balance patches came during the same iteration of Blazblue Tager got nerfed.

[jak d ripr]

I'm pretty sure the last two times balance patches came during the same iteration of Blazblue Tager got nerfed.

Hey I never said they were good at balancing. Seriously though I feel tager was built on a shaky foundation which led to him perpetually being bad(although I stopped following after CS so that might have changed). Potemkin on the other hand has a history of actually being good so I have faith given time they'll get it somewhat right.

[Henaki]

Hey I never said they were good at balancing. Seriously though I feel tager was built on a shaky foundation which led to him perpetually being bad(although I stopped following after CS so that might have changed). Potemkin on the other hand has a history of actually being good so I have faith given time they'll get it somewhat right.

every single time tager got buffed it was shitty gimmicks and not anything that gave him some sort of stable gameplay until CP where they finally gave him a decent combo off 5a.

xrd potemkin is nerfed #R potemkin with new shitty gimmicks.

there's still a chance hes OK, but yeah, no high hopes here. i'm expecting a ride on the crap tier train for the entirety of the xrd series.

[Tae Seong Kim]

I haven't seen anyone try this in any of the videos yet. I wonder if Potemkin can use j.S as an instant overhead, RCed, falling j.HS, ground combo?

[XXXDC]

I'm more optimistic. I think he will be good again on Xrd+

And again, Potemkin is overall a better character than Tager, i (still) have faith on arcsys.

[jak d ripr]

every single time tager got buffed it was shitty gimmicks and not anything that gave him some sort of stable gameplay until CP where they finally gave him a decent combo off 5a.

xrd potemkin is nerfed #R potemkin with new shitty gimmicks.

there's still a chance hes OK, but yeah, no high hopes here. i'm expecting a ride on the crap tier train for the entirety of the xrd series.

I can't lie, if by the time it comes stateside it turns out he's actually low tier ill be VERY disappointed. I'm used to playing low tier, for Gods sake I play grapplers. But potemkin was always the one I couldn't wait to play because he was one of the better designed grapplers. Needless to say if the first GG I play seriously features the worst version of potemkin ill be more than a little heart broken.

Oh well, only time will tell.

[Flick]

PB can be followed up with 2K>S(f)>Heat in corner, at least on Faust

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KI8soM422-k#t=260