Vesperion Posted November 16, 2014 Posted November 16, 2014 Damnit, why have I found myself from wanting to main Miyuki to switching over to that Kirino train? Oh well....I guess I'm more suited to doing rushdown mixups than trying something new. ( ~ _~) The Kirino hype train is real. Do your best to stick with it.
Fatal Seabass Posted November 16, 2014 Posted November 16, 2014 So I'm going through the assists in training mode testing out their various properties and you really start to see interesting options opening up with the ones that are overlooked. Yes, a lot of people are gravitating to Accelerator assist but you start to see some interesting things like Tatsuya's counter i.e the inability to call out assists, attack, jump, AND move. You can only burst and block. Also, the info for Erio Towa is inaccurate on the front page and on the wiki. In fact, it's just a carbon copy of Hinata Hakamada's. Erio's 5S acts as a wall. It absorbs attacks from the enemy so long as you stay near her. Her 6S is a slide(doesn't hit low) that tracks the opponent down. Unfortunately, it doesn't hit low but she does run full screen before she senses the opponent and initiates the slide. You can try some trip guard setups since it does hit opponent's landing. I'm going to email bellreisa because there are some really interesting tidbits with these assists that I think people are overlooking because they just don't know about them. I want to make a video in the future to display them as well. I am really enjoying this game. :D
Rhiya Posted November 16, 2014 Posted November 16, 2014 The issue with most assists is, well, that Kino exists. Kino 5D shuts down a lot of assists with startup time -cold-.
Keo-bas Posted November 16, 2014 Posted November 16, 2014 The issue with most assists is, well, that Kino exists. Kino 5D shuts down a lot of assists with startup time -cold-. Doesn''t Kino have the second most longest start up and only applicable in certain secarios?
S.D. Posted November 16, 2014 Posted November 16, 2014 I'm checking Akira's wiki page and.. honestly? I think all the info about the way the move is used in DOA5 or VF or what follow ups are possible in a completely different game are absolutely unnecessary and just make the entries convoluted and confusing for everyone.
Rhiya Posted November 16, 2014 Posted November 16, 2014 Doesn''t Kino have the second most longest start up and only applicable in certain secarios? lolwut Kino 5S has almost no startup or recovery -- it's the bullet fireball. Are you thinking of 6S, which is combo fodder?
Silvius Posted November 16, 2014 Posted November 16, 2014 Selvaria mixups ideas : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Kh4sxjUGss Selvaria x Alicia 5k+ combos : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ptm2huI0ip0&feature=youtu.be Edit : forgot that in the original combo vid its do nearly 6K for 4 meter : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=apcn0jbfy9g Edit 2 : Red burst combo ender setups : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZKZHuMBBIAk&feature=youtu.be
Urichinan Posted November 16, 2014 Posted November 16, 2014 Did an Akira thing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jDNdeEB7ves
Tigre Posted November 16, 2014 Posted November 16, 2014 I'm checking Akira's wiki page and.. honestly? I think all the info about the way the move is used in DOA5 or VF or what follow ups are possible in a completely different game are absolutely unnecessary and just make the entries convoluted and confusing for everyone.I completely agree (I went through the same thing with the Eltnum wiki page on the UNIEL wiki).I see that LarsMasters is the user who's been doing most of the edits (and I know they check this thread, plus thisis the most centralized way to communicate and organize. Please don't view this as a call out!), would it be possible to trim down/revise the Akira wiki page to reflect on DFC and not refer to other games please? It's sorta superfluous and doesn't really help someone (like myself) who has never played Akira in DOA5 or VF.Also, a quick reminder to everyone editing the wiki, please write in 3rd person. I think the Tomoka page needs to be revised a bit to remove first person speech. The person reading the wiki doesn't know who you are, so framing things as "I think" or "I use" doesn't really serve them any help.If I was smart I'd write a style guide for editing the wiki. You'd imagine I already would have made one with all the wiki work I've set up but nope that'd be somewhat smart.
Sanger Zonvolt Posted November 16, 2014 Posted November 16, 2014 So which character have you guys fought most online?
Silvius Posted November 16, 2014 Posted November 16, 2014 Shana ; Kirino, Kirito , Asuna from my experience
Shak0 Posted November 16, 2014 Posted November 16, 2014 How do I unlock selvera anyway Do I have to fight her in arcade mode? I unlocked akira that way at least.
Tigre Posted November 16, 2014 Posted November 16, 2014 You need to go back through Arcade mode, and win more rounds with Climax Arts than with normals.
Shak0 Posted November 16, 2014 Posted November 16, 2014 You need to go back through Arcade mode, and win more rounds with Climax Arts than with normals. Wow that was a quick reply Thanks!
Tigre Posted November 16, 2014 Posted November 16, 2014 not a problem, I just happened to be checking the thread at the right time lol
Sadeyo Posted November 16, 2014 Posted November 16, 2014 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LoNMkgMPaeI&list=UUSWFwW7yDCCwwajY97IaZ3w (netplay with JP, I have 2s and 3s with everyone but oh man the netcode, maybe just the facility I'm at) http://www.twitch.tv/sadeyo/b/589129933 (This is me just mashing casuals with my buddy down the hall) If there's a Skype group for DFC please feel free to invite me. Not only do I want to get advice for combat I also want to have the chance to ask others for matches in my spare time, something about this form of combat is pretty relaxing compared to the overly structure and brain wrecking torture BB, P4U, and UNIEL happen to give. It's so easy to accept and then there's some meta to it all that mashing is not the answer to everything. I plan to play Misaka and Selvaria, please excuse my scrubbiness.
Kieofire Posted November 16, 2014 Posted November 16, 2014 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LoNMkgMPaeI&list=UUSWFwW7yDCCwwajY97IaZ3w (netplay with JP, I have 2s and 3s with everyone but oh man the netcode, maybe just the facility I'm at) http://www.twitch.tv/sadeyo/b/589129933 (This is me just mashing casuals with my buddy down the hall) If there's a Skype group for DFC please feel free to invite me. Not only do I want to get advice for combat I also want to have the chance to ask others for matches in my spare time, something about this form of combat is pretty relaxing compared to the overly structure and brain wrecking torture BB, P4U, and UNIEL happen to give. It's so easy to accept and then there's some meta to it all that mashing is not the answer to everything. I plan to play Misaka and Selvaria, please excuse my scrubbiness. Sent you a contact request on Skype, I can add you to the group.
susano Posted November 16, 2014 Posted November 16, 2014 So I just got this game Friday and I'm a beginner. So from what I heard, Shana is beginner friendly? Also, is there anyone else who just started so I get someone to spar with? Another thing, I wanted to actually learn Selvara (I think I spelled her name wrong, forgive me...don't throw stones), but is she hard to use?
wauhti Posted November 16, 2014 Posted November 16, 2014 So I just got this game Friday and I'm a beginner. So from what I heard, Shana is beginner friendly? Also, is there anyone else who just started so I get someone to spar with? Another thing, I wanted to actually learn Selvara (I think I spelled her name wrong, forgive me...don't throw stones), but is she hard to use? She's not that hard in execution wise but you need slightly be good at neutral. There's combos for her http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sye816Ci6DM and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=myb51hoBvCE Also listed some combos in pastebin http://pastebin.com/RiHpHq0E IMO Selvaria feels B tier atm (from S, A, B, C, D tier format)
fruits_punch95 Posted November 16, 2014 Posted November 16, 2014 So which character have you guys fought most online? Shana, Kirino, Selvaria and Misaka.
susano Posted November 16, 2014 Posted November 16, 2014 She's not that hard in execution wise but you need slightly be good at neutral. There's combos for herhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sye816Ci6DM andhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=myb51hoBvCE Also listed some combos in pastebin http://pastebin.com/RiHpHq0E IMO Selvaria feels B tier atm (from S, A, B, C, D tier format) Gracias.
Rhiya Posted November 16, 2014 Posted November 16, 2014 Selvaria+Alicia is looking very S tier atm. Setplay for days.
Ben Reed Posted November 16, 2014 Posted November 16, 2014 Selvaria+Alicia is looking very S tier atm. Setplay for days. I don't entirely agree with this simply because Sel has at least one hard (I wouldn't say 3-7, but 4-6, maybe a really "hard" 5-5 seems safe) matchup in the form of KYH. With KYH/Accelerator I might jack that up to 3-7 unless Sel has Accelerator herself, in which case I'd call it a hard 5-5. But against other characters I think Sel does just fine. I would hesitate to say A tier because I don't think Sel is quite as good at spacing as KYH. That's without considering assists, though. Once Sel gets in, she does pretty good with oki. Just that she's not as great on the outside as one would expect of a lady with a huge lance that doubles as a laser cannon, and being on the outside is a much bigger deal against KYH than against other characters. I don't think she's garbage at all, though. I still like Sel/Alicia for other matchups, I learned a lot of tech from Silvius' channel. But I still favor Accelerator vs KYH simply because it's so much more important to stay inside in that matchup than in others.
bakahyl Posted November 16, 2014 Posted November 16, 2014 Miyuki's inferno has so fast startup, it's almost amusing. I am able to punish things such as fullscreen support summons, to blocked (certain) trumps from the opponent or the recovery of (normally)unsafe fullscreen attacks (like all of Selvaria's ranged attacks)
Fatal Seabass Posted November 16, 2014 Posted November 16, 2014 So after messing endlessly with Tatsuya's 6S, I've discovered that it amplifies damage after it's hit the opponent. I tried a simple BnB with Rentaro before the assist hit and after it hit. By itself, it deals zero damage. But when plugged into the combo, it added an additional 280~ damage? I can't recall at the moment but yeah. It was killing me figuring out what the hell it did.
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