o Nereus o Posted August 9, 2014 Posted August 9, 2014 Did an investigation for his 623X series: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0BvaqFz2XI&feature=youtu.be Ehhhhhh they're okay. Sorry if i saw this video a bit late :/. His 623C is really good because it can be used to interrupt someone. So for example, let's say Eltnum does 5B >5C... you can react to her using 623C if you shield block 5B. Also, as you may know certain strings/moves can be interrupted so since 623C has a bit of invulnerability it's the perfect punish for those types of things. If Seth is in Vorpal state when he does 623C.. he can chain shift after it for 4K.
heavymetalmixer Posted August 9, 2014 Posted August 9, 2014 08/02/2014 Arc Divide 1.0 UNIEL VS Merkava: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJlHbQrjYokhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJlHbQrjYok&t=2m25shttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJlHbQrjYok&t=5m32shttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJlHbQrjYok&t=8m14sVS Akatsuki: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KyekArHRmeohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KyekArHRmeo&t=2m37shttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KyekArHRmeo&t=5m34sNo date Under Night In-Birth Exe: late- Netplay Replay Matches VS Carmine: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vhc1xUDbKxk&t=3m48sVS Merkava: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7p6JC3xRSz8&t=16m42sVS Akatsuki: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=seNMyuJaCCU&t=18m40s
o Nereus o Posted August 9, 2014 Posted August 9, 2014 08/02/2014 Arc Divide 1.0 UNIEL VS Merkava: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJlHbQrjYokhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJlHbQrjYok&t=2m25shttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJlHbQrjYok&t=5m32shttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJlHbQrjYok&t=8m14sVS Akatsuki: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KyekArHRmeohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KyekArHRmeo&t=2m37shttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KyekArHRmeo&t=5m34s I wonder why the Seth player wasn't doing the typical 6C BnB
Rikir Posted August 9, 2014 Posted August 9, 2014 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HsgEq56P35E&feature=youtu.be Seth Combo video by me. Yayyyyy. I investigated combos from his 6C because theres literally none anywhere. I also made sure most of the combos I used werent already in Rion's CMVs. Right some quick stuff to mention. Off of his overhead, you can only combo into 214A on: Gord Merk Hilda Carmine Wald
o Nereus o Posted August 9, 2014 Posted August 9, 2014 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HsgEq56P35E&feature=youtu.be Seth Combo video by me. Yayyyyy. I investigated combos from his 6C because theres literally none anywhere. I also made sure most of the combos I used werent already in Rion's CMVs. Nice CMV bro!.. Definitely checking out some of the stuff in here so i can use them in my matches as well. I really like how you did 6C > Dash C as well as his 623B setup on Hyde at the beginning.
spiralfang Posted August 9, 2014 Posted August 9, 2014 Great video bro im stealing some of that tech lol
o Nereus o Posted August 9, 2014 Posted August 9, 2014 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HsgEq56P35E&feature=youtu.be Seth Combo video by me. Yayyyyy. I investigated combos from his 6C because theres literally none anywhere. I also made sure most of the combos I used werent already in Rion's CMVs. Right some quick stuff to mention. Off of his overhead, you can only combo into 214A on: Gord Merk Hilda Carmine Wald I found a 3252 dmg variation to the 3B setup you did on Hyde. It's easier to do IMO and leads into his j.236B oki. 623B > 3B > 623A > 2C (1) > 214A > Hold C > 6C > j.236B > j.214A > 214B > Hold B > 22 or 2A+B > Dash C > 6C > j.236B (oki)
Azul Posted August 10, 2014 Posted August 10, 2014 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HsgEq56P35E&feature=youtu.be Seth Combo video by me. Yayyyyy. I investigated combos from his 6C because theres literally none anywhere. I also made sure most of the combos I used werent already in Rion's CMVs. Right some quick stuff to mention. Off of his overhead, you can only combo into 214A on: Gord Merk Hilda Carmine Wald Nice CMV. You fleshed out a lot of ideas I had absent-mindedly doodled with in training mode during the endless grind to let this character sink in. Though I've been shamelessly drawing on the trinity for power, this helped get me that spark back. For real though, how do you guys netplay with this character? Reactions ain't mean a thing, especially below 2bar. Feels like we're free to get disrespected on with little room for error coz our boy Setto can't make reads underwater. Lag does work in our favor when vortex is go time, but like good luck getting there consistently on mostly prediction
o Nereus o Posted August 10, 2014 Posted August 10, 2014 Nice CMV. You fleshed out a lot of ideas I had absent-mindedly doodled with in training mode during the endless grind to let this character sink in. Though I've been shamelessly drawing on the trinity for power, this helped get me that spark back. For real though, how do you guys netplay with this character? Reactions ain't mean a thing, especially below 2bar. Feels like we're free to get disrespected on with little room for error coz our boy Setto can't make reads underwater. Lag does work in our favor when vortex is go time, but like good luck getting there consistently on mostly prediction Seth is just dumb to use online.. that's all there is to it. I can't do anything consecutively online for the majority of the time i play people.
Stellarcircle5 Posted August 10, 2014 Posted August 10, 2014 Nice CMV. You fleshed out a lot of ideas I had absent-mindedly doodled with in training mode during the endless grind to let this character sink in. Though I've been shamelessly drawing on the trinity for power, this helped get me that spark back. For real though, how do you guys netplay with this character? Reactions ain't mean a thing, especially below 2bar. Feels like we're free to get disrespected on with little room for error coz our boy Setto can't make reads underwater. Lag does work in our favor when vortex is go time, but like good luck getting there consistently on mostly prediction Oh yes, the struggle of playing a technical character. I can only play against a few of my friends who share a 4 bar connection with me. The frequent encounters with the derp tier characters make Netplay a huge hassle as well since they thrive underwater. Shoutouts to Waldstein.
Rikir Posted August 10, 2014 Posted August 10, 2014 lol I just choose not to play anyone under 2 bars unless I know the connection is at least stable. Although I have gotten to the point where I can at least do his standard combo from 6C consistently. Everything else still needs work. gsdgsjg On a slightly unrelated note: Brett needs some lab assistants: https://twitter.com/kazmadan/status/498461282320650240 So I helped out!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=scgAfP3zwF8&feature=youtu.be
Falco252 Posted August 10, 2014 Posted August 10, 2014 Oh yeah he asked me a few stuff but it proved itself pretty pointless, but well : Orb starter 2C > 214CC > 6C > j236B > j214A > 214BB > 22 > dash B > orb hit > 6C drops at 6C 2C > 214CC > 6C > j236B > j214A > 214BB > dash B > orb hit 214BB works (can j214A/C) 2C > 214CC > 6C > j236B > j214A > 214BB > low dash B > orb hit > 214CC works (can't follow up)
Koga_Noid Posted August 10, 2014 Posted August 10, 2014 Oh yeah he asked me a few stuff but it proved itself pretty pointless, but well : Orb starter 2C > 214CC > 6C > j236B > j214A > 214BB > 22 > dash B > orb hit > 6C drops at 6C 2C > 214CC > 6C > j236B > j214A > 214BB > dash B > orb hit 214BB works (can j214A/C) 2C > 214CC > 6C > j236B > j214A > 214BB > low dash B > orb hit > 214CC works (can't follow up) Excellent, exactly what I needed. I've just been going into basic 214C < C < j.C < j.B stuff for online's sake.
Rikir Posted August 10, 2014 Posted August 10, 2014 Kinda important I guess: Rion's twitter:https://twitter.com/Rion7721
Falco252 Posted August 10, 2014 Posted August 10, 2014 Excellent, exactly what I needed. I've just been going into basic 214C < C < j.C < j.B stuff for online's sake. Honestly on orb starter you're better off the 5B route (http://puu.sh/aC4uw.png) it's doable online tbh
Rikir Posted August 11, 2014 Posted August 11, 2014 I uploaded a bunch of Seth matches ripped off the UNIEL Replay system:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4r5ICZUbgo Rion makes a few appearances, I made some notes so give me some time to type them up. Added some random highlights/notes in description of video. Heres some stuff that I think might be worth your time though: Rion Matches: Penhouse635 (Gord) vs Luna7721 (aka RION Seth) 5:41 Luna7721 (RION Seth) vs nusaa6 (Eltnum) 23:01 6:19 Rion escapes EX Grim Reaper with a really nice 214C 6:40 Corner unblockable setup: 6C > 236A > Meaty Assault j.C > Rise j,A > 214B 10:22 Interesting meaty setup with 66C > 623A for frame trap 11:08 SAME SETUP with CS follow up (drops it though) >I think this is worth investigating since this Seth player uses it like three times in this match. The Gord didnt really expect him to 623A back to the other side. 21:00 Corner mixup: 6C > Orb > Assault > Fast Fall > 2A >Tricky stuff 24:25 Really cool backdash punish for forward teching. >That j.A hit super meaty. 24:50 Rion magically grabs Eltnums DP O_o 25:33 DOUBLE PERFECT WITH SETH VS WALD
o Nereus o Posted August 11, 2014 Posted August 11, 2014 I uploaded a bunch of Seth matches ripped off the UNIEL Replay system:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4r5ICZUbgo Rion makes a few appearances, I made some notes so give me some time to type them up. Added some random highlights/notes in description of video. Heres some stuff that I think might be worth your time though: Rion Matches: Penhouse635 (Gord) vs Luna7721 (aka RION Seth) 5:41 Luna7721 (RION Seth) vs nusaa6 (Eltnum) 23:01 6:19 Rion escapes EX Grim Reaper with a really nice 214C 6:40 Corner unblockable setup: 6C > 236A > Meaty Assault j.C > Rise j,A > 214B 10:22 Interesting meaty setup with 66C > 623A for frame trap 11:08 SAME SETUP with CS follow up (drops it though) >I think this is worth investigating since this Seth player uses it like three times in this match. The Gord didnt really expect him to 623A back to the other side. 21:00 Corner mixup: 6C > Orb > Assault > Fast Fall > 2A >Tricky stuff 24:25 Really cool backdash punish for forward teching. >That j.A hit super meaty. 24:50 Rion magically grabs Eltnums DP O_o 25:33 DOUBLE PERFECT WITH SETH VS WALD Great footage here.. saw the whole thing. About the Eltnum DP being interrupted.. if you grab them at a certain point iirc... you can actually interrupt moves in the game. Not sure if it's strict or not. Also, i found a different ender to the j.C combo i posted awhile back: j.C > 2C > 623A > 5B > 623B > 214A > Hold C > 6C > j.236B > j.214A > 214B > Hold B > 44 or 4A+B > j.214A > 214B > Hold B > 214C Does 3740 no vorpal + requires 100 meter. In vorpal it deals 4000+
Falco252 Posted August 11, 2014 Posted August 11, 2014 That's almost Rion's 2C combo so it should be pretty good (will check a few things on my own about it tho) For reference it's 2C(2) > 623A > 5B > 623B > 214AC > 6C > j236B j214A > 214BB > air backdash > j214A > orb hit > jC > j214A > 214BB > j236B
LitchiFayeBling Posted August 11, 2014 Posted August 11, 2014 might have been eltnum's A dp, which i don't think is fully invin until active
tdsholo Posted August 11, 2014 Posted August 11, 2014 What does Roin do in ~7:20? Not sure if it's 214X A follow-up countering something or if he just does A follow up and a regular 632146 command grab
Rikir Posted August 11, 2014 Posted August 11, 2014 What does Roin do in ~7:20? Not sure if it's 214X A follow-up countering something or if he just does A follow up and a regular 632146 command grab I really cant tell either, but my guess is thats its just the follow up.
tdsholo Posted August 11, 2014 Posted August 11, 2014 Maybe, but we should test about that 214X~A > command grab. Maybe it's interesting in the corner Speaking about 214X series, can someone tell me the difference between the 3 regarding startup? I don't know what is usually used in combos
Falco252 Posted August 11, 2014 Posted August 11, 2014 It's the counter command grab thing if I understood you guys correctly. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZ1qQjtVlRU&feature=youtu.be
brett_ Posted August 11, 2014 Posted August 11, 2014 Yeah, it's just 214B~A catching Gordeau for pressing buttons, then CS > 22 > IW. the A followup catches button pressing. It also has invincibility on it, so if you catch a DP, sometimes you'll both whiff (which is good because then you can just recover and punish). Definitely caught things like Yuzu's ABCD with it before. If you guys haven't gotten in the habit yet, I don't know what the A followup startup is yet, but I've noticed that I've gotten into the habit of holding A if I see a superflash as I'm doing a 214 move, and it tends to work out really well (switches to A followup, autograbs whatever superflash / CS thing they did) Also I haven't had time to study the proration on it so if anyone else wants to (hint hint) please feel free to. In my experience in matches (only time I've really messed around with it), CS > 2C > 214CC > 6C combo route doesnt seem to work, though it does work off of normal command grab CS. I labbed a bunch of stuff regarding the basic Dash C > 236X > EX Command Grab unblockable setup in terms of where the holes are and how different variations beat out different escape attempts, so I'll be posting that when I have time.
Falco252 Posted August 11, 2014 Posted August 11, 2014 If you mean from counter grab startup, CS > land > 2C > 214CC > 6C > 236B > j214A > 214BB > 22 > dash C > orb hit > 6C > 236B does work, however, I dunno if my execution was just bad today but it seems harder than the bnb starting from 5B/5C somehow
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