Dreiko Posted April 1, 2015 Posted April 1, 2015 what Unless you are not corporeal but purely conceptual, opinions have more value the more they align with reality. Basically, for people, opinions based on facts are more valuable. If you're Kaname Madoka, you can be purely conceptual and not care about what reality is or isn't, otherwise, you're best served by valuing fact-based-opinions more and society benefits more by treating those opinions with a higher regard. Now I'll stop here before Anne gets on my case lol.
BlackYakuzu94 Posted April 1, 2015 Posted April 1, 2015 But you'll notice that you didn't use the word "Better"; You used "More damage." "Better" is almost always subjective. For example, it's easy to say that a character does "more damage" from a given starter, but "Better damage overall" is much more subjective. I said average damage bby :P My point was saying that even if "better" is a subjective term, it tends to be supported by actual facts more often than not. I don't give a damn what your opinion is, you're not gonna convince me a character like Terumi is better than Valkenhayn unless you got some damn good evidence.
Fame96 Posted April 1, 2015 Posted April 1, 2015 I said average damage bby :P My point was saying that even if "better" is a subjective term, it tends to be supported by actual facts more often than not. I don't give a damn what your opinion is, you're not gonna convince me a character like Terumi is better than Valkenhayn unless you got some damn good evidence. Why do we always have to use terumi as the definition of shit tier? T_T
TD Posted April 1, 2015 Posted April 1, 2015 Call him what he is at the moment. He is the worst character in the game right now, after all.
TD Posted April 1, 2015 Posted April 1, 2015 What the heck does "Push for game" mean? koko can get and keep momentum in the corner thanks to her trap, fireball, and graviton. Once in the corner she needs any or all of these to create strong and varied mixups. Graviton is the glue that ties her offensive momentum together. Pushing for game, as swd likely implies, simply means being able to keep a graviton out longer (no grav meter means it stays out with no penalty, keeping the offense going indefinitely, leading to more chances to open the foe up and win.) traps are excellent oki tools in the corner but again, varied pressure wins games, not just strong alone. Why is this a problem, exactly? There are lots of characters in the game who can't get max damage off a "reasonable confirm" without some sort of resource. It's, y'know, the price you pay for having a drive that lets you do amazing stuff, instead of, say, a drive that forces you to precisely time your D Presses. :P This is true. However, kokonoe has become much less forgiving in her gameplan, and now even with good normals, their generally close range and recovery make her a more risky character when you factor in how much graviton, teleport, and the trap has changed. This is not necessarily a counter argument to what you are representing here though. Just that not every character in this category could drop a combo and lose because of it, having more defensive options. Still don't know what this means... I think I explained it nicely above. Stuff added. Personally koko has balanced herself out to be an offensive footsies character with zoning capabilities. Her gameplan is still fluid and can change in a heartbeat. Having great foresight and planning as well as execution comes into play, as well as how well one understands her risks up close, which was a little more undermined before since she was so good at everything.
BlackYakuzu94 Posted April 1, 2015 Posted April 1, 2015 Why do we always have to use terumi as the definition of shit tier? T_T The general consensus is that he is among the worst characters in the game in terms of viability compared to the rest of the cast. I am not trying to shit on your favorite character or discourage you from playing him, seriously if you wanna use Terumi then you're perfectly in your right in doing so. I'm just going by what I know about him and using it as a comparison, ok?
Dark Ranger88 Posted April 1, 2015 Posted April 1, 2015 What the heck does "Push for game" mean? No one understands SWD's hip, west-coast hyphy slang. They make new shit up all the time. Next thing you know Kokonoe's going to be "Popping the kettle" or "Tripping the lulu." And about this whole "better" argument, let's stop arguing semantics FFS.
someonewhodied Posted April 1, 2015 Posted April 1, 2015 Basically pushing for game means squeezing out every bit of damage possible by using your extra resources in hopes of robbing your opponent of a round in a way that you don't deserve. See: Hakumen 5C Counterhit with OD Like, you can finish the round by using everything, so go for it instead of making it take one more combo.
Zedar90 Posted April 1, 2015 Posted April 1, 2015 Any news from Mori on the streaming that ASW is doing right now?. The ArcLive Kizuna one? It's an April fool stream. Here is the fake timetable, if I understand correctly, they are taking turns to run on a treadmill for 24 hours, while playing GG2 from start to finish and other games. The CP Extend opening have also been shown on the stream.
Verimeloni Posted April 1, 2015 Posted April 1, 2015 It's an April fool stream. Here is the fake timetable, if I understand correctly, they are taking turns to run on a treadmill for 24 hours, while playing GG2 from start to finish and other games. The CP Extend opening have also been shown on the stream. I saw just the last Celica part of the OP and then they continued playing GG1 ;_;
Dingo_Egret Posted April 1, 2015 Posted April 1, 2015 Hi guys, I would like to share with you the fuzzy jump knowledge that Dogura-san taught us during his stay in Madrid (Spain) on the ocassion of the Sonic Boom tournament. http://www.dustloop.com/forums/index.php?/topic/10602-how-to-do-fuzzy-jump-by-dgr-maneater/ Regards
Zedar90 Posted April 1, 2015 Posted April 1, 2015 Opening is going to be shown on this stream in a couple of minutes: http://live.nicovideo.jp/watch/lv215962618 Edit: and it have been shown.
kosmos badgirl Posted April 1, 2015 Posted April 1, 2015 Crap I missed it, but I saw Minoru Kidooka having fun, that was cool.
StylisH Posted April 1, 2015 Posted April 1, 2015 Why do we always have to use terumi as the definition of shit tier? T_T If it looks like a duck, and walks like a duck, then it's not a chicken.
Ourozama Posted April 1, 2015 Posted April 1, 2015 Someone uploaded the OP onto niconico (this counts as news right?..) http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm25929382
swordsman09 Posted April 1, 2015 Posted April 1, 2015 What's up with this opening and scary faces? And they pretty much just spoiled the entire story for me. Thanks ASW. -_-
kosmos badgirl Posted April 1, 2015 Posted April 1, 2015 Someone uploaded the OP onto niconico (this counts as news right?..) http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm25929382 Thanks, awesome intro but I think is the worst Faylan theme, I guess I will wait until I listen the full song to pass judgement.
BlackYakuzu94 Posted April 1, 2015 Posted April 1, 2015 What's up with this opening and scary faces? And they pretty much just spoiled the entire story for me. Thanks ASW. -_- The game's been out for over a year, in both regions... Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
FKGunBlaze Posted April 1, 2015 Posted April 1, 2015 Izayoi murder face is best though Please. Susanoo Duel, tho.
Dawn of Musou Posted April 1, 2015 Posted April 1, 2015 The song itself was ok, Soukyuu no Hikari and Blue Sanction were definitely better. Still though, they did a really good job of showing some of the best moments from CP so I gotta say I really like it.
VermilionBird Posted April 1, 2015 Posted April 1, 2015 And they pretty much just spoiled the entire story for me. Thanks ASW. -_- The opening was pretty accurate to the characters involvement in the story. Especially with Tao.
swordsman09 Posted April 1, 2015 Posted April 1, 2015 The game's been out for over a year, in both regions... Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk I was just joking about that lol. That could be the case for someone smart enough to wait for this version though. Having UNiB music for an opening is alright I guess. That being said, I think this is the worst BB opening theme.
BlackYakuzu94 Posted April 1, 2015 Posted April 1, 2015 I really hope you were lol I like to see this as a troll to those who didn't purchase CP and just waited for this version. "Don't wanna purchase our game, fine have the story spoiled ya assholes" Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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