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ugh god is it the weekend yet why did psn go down right when i'm all like "oh man i want to work on my shit"

2a > Renka (1) > Kishuu > 6c > 2c > sj.2A > j.2C > 2c > sj.2A > AD > j.2A > j.C is as far as I was getting for about 3800. The issue is it was ending too high for j.C > 5c, and I believe you are supposed to do another j.2A after falling a bit to lower it and then j.C 5c, but I was too far away for 5c if I did that. I've seen jp hakus do another sj.2a set after j.C, but I'm not certain if the untech time allows for that after 2 j.2a/j.2c loops. I have issues doing things consistently on the PSP between laggy stick or terrible dpad, so I wasn't able to diagnose and it was late when I was trying it.

I'm having issues doing the whole thing on my PSP cause it lags a lot, but it looks like the 3 star version will still easily do at least 4200 off 2a.

asdf wow I... i dunno I thought it might be her blocking hitbox being taller than her crouching hitbox but nope oh actually I seem to be able to recreate that if I block one 5a in the air and then land and do crouching block, then it connects once only. i think that may be what happened in that video :s

I can do the j2c -> 2c pretty consistently. You could only be whiffing if you were not doing the j2c low enough or if you weren't hitting 2c as soon as you were able. If you're convinced you're doing it low enough, it's probably the latter. Make use of that 5 frame buffer!

Okay, I see what you're doing now. This is why you're wrong: You're training with the "Infinity" option enabled. Hakumen has a % damage increase while in Mugen state. The combos that you think do 3.3k will not do 3.3k in a real match. The standard enma combo does 4.2k easily with Mugen active.

6k damage is huuuge for 3 stars. I'm relatively certain the 6c is not charged at all, I messed with that combo quite a bit. I actually do recall a combo that uses ch 6C in the corner, but I don't quite remember what starts it. It might have been tsubaki.. Actually no, that doesn't seem to work. I guess you can only do charged 6c out of a hotaru, and they have to be a certain distance away from it or the corner bind won't last long enough. Regardless, charge 6c is significantly slower than the one in that cilp.

From http://www.dustloop.com/forums/showthread.php?10783-The-Critique-my-Hakumen-Thread&p=1002175&viewfull=1#post1002175 : It's 2770. That's closer to 3k than the 6a version is, but now that the name of the game is 5c, it's not anywhere close to the 3600 you get off the standard enma combo. Can you not do the enma bnb? I can think of no other reason for your irrational aversion to it. I feel like you should be the one testing this stuff, not us.

psn has been down for like five days i am crying http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6U5gvzBUU4w#t=32m38s alright who's subbin haku in cs2

Well yeah, all I'm saying is pretty much all of his options other than "let renka finish" can be DP'd if the first hit is IB'd. In CS2 Kishuu -> block would probably work though (or hell maybe even kishuu -> 66214b).

You can't jab him out of it or anything. Can't jab him out of renka (1) -> gurren or anything either. You can DP, but so can you all the other options that aren't RC. There might be better answers if it's 360a we're talking, not sure off the top of my head tho. and yeah spark isn't jp i have been watching many cs2 vid lately

it does work since kishuu is so much faster in CS2.

a-cho a-cho a-cho 23 Kakyuu: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMGRby5QbKs#t=13m45s vs. Plat http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMGRby5QbKs#t=16m30s vs. Plat http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMGRby5QbKs#t=28m58s vs. Plat http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMGRby5QbKs#t=31m17s vs. Valk http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMGRby5QbKs#t=34m42s vs. Lambda http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHXaWRW5AYg#t=37m30s vs. Valk Tenchi: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMGRby5QbKs#t=22m36s vs. Plat http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMGRby5QbKs#t=26m09s vs. Plat http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHXaWRW5AYg#t=10m00s vs. Valk http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6U5gvzBUU4w vs. Plat Some mystery haku?? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6U5gvzBUU4w#t=12m14s vs. Plat http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6U5gvzBUU4w#t=15m20s vs. Plat http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6U5gvzBUU4w#t=18m50s vs. Plat http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6U5gvzBUU4w#t=21m53s vs. Plat http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6U5gvzBUU4w#t=25m35s vs. Plat http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6U5gvzBUU4w#t=29m00s vs. Plat http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6U5gvzBUU4w#t=34m25s vs. Plat http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6U5gvzBUU4w#t=38m13s vs. Litchi http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6U5gvzBUU4w#t=41m54s vs. Litchi

http://www.dustloop.com/forums/showthread.php?10783-The-Critique-my-Hakumen-Thread&p=1000848&viewfull=1#post1000848 ahhahaah i can't wait to see more of this clown sup im here to teach spark a thing or two. mash 2a,6a til stun all day

Apparently it does (on the PSP, at least). You can 214a -> 5b several times in a row on stagger, even. 214a -> 5b -> 623aa -> j2c -> 2c -> sj.2a -> 66 -> j.2a -> j.c = 2618 Off 5b = 2505 5c = 3310 j2c -> 5c = 3371 2b = 2093 It's a little bit more damage than the standard enma combo, but the gains for the extra star spent don't seem too huge.

Always appreciated! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ui9iR-jKYXg naoe from 4/7 Tachikawa vs. Roppou Tenchi from Ko-hatsu: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m18_qnyUQc8#t=4m27s http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SaHjss7rn7Y

I subbed Mu for a little bit. Stein setups are fun and her corner pressure is veeery scary in CS2. She's kind of reliant on steins for mixup/approach, but she kind of goes both ways between rush and space control. I can't comment on GG!

I've only ever legitimately used it if they were in the corner and trapped by a void zone, but even then there are better options (what are they going to do, not block it?) Watch some CS2 vids! They are fun!

http://dustloop.com/guides/bbcs2/

If you counterhit with charged 6C, you earned that damage. repeat proration makes me sad. I actually have been meaning to mess around to see how much you can 6C in the corner in a normal combo, since I'm sure that has something to do with the fact that it has repeat proration.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vf0eBXgVvCQ#t=00m06s Haku vs. Makoto. Don't recognize the name! Kind of a weird match, looks like they're both screwing around. The end is lulz though. @Klein: the Tsubaki kind of had a lot of control for most of the match, so yeah. The hotaru at 10:05 made me frowny.

ms paint hell let's see you do a good haku one, be creative then again last time i asked for "be creative" bob showed up to the party

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w1-D5I3e7m0#t=8m21s takosu

When you do the 2nd part of it, Ragna is in recovery state until x frames AFTER he lands, meaning the earlier you do it, the longer it takes to recover because the more time he spends in the air before landing. If that's confusing, just jump as high as you can and then do gauntlet hades just to see it. Even though you recover faster from delaying the 2nd hit, the opponent doesn't, so you get done faster in time for 5b (or even 5c.)

Bubble can be parried. Parrying it outside of oki looks fishy though cause of how slowly it floats... Cutting it destroys it but doesn't create the void zone.