mAc Chaos
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I kept trying to bait you into DPing but you weren't buying it. :P Did Litchi get new moves in CS? I saw some new stuff that I wasn't familiar with, but it's been so long since I fought Litchi that I don't remember anymore. There was this one move where she'd twirl around her staff and it seemed like an overhead, but I'm not sure.
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Hey, good games earlier. I haven't fought a Litchi since like a year ago. I hear you've been playing with my brother.
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Well, take Ragna for instance. You have 5B > 5C > 214A > 214D as a basic one. But you could get more damage out of that by doing 5B > 2B > 5C > 2C > 214A > 214D, instead. You're right, a lot of the more advanced combos have parts that you can't break apart, but focus on the basics first. Just take it one step at a time. You don't need more advanced combos until you fight better opponents anyway. As for players... well, there's IRL friends, there's people on PSN and XBL, and folks on Dustloop. There's places where people gather offline to play too, but those are few and far between, so you'd have to be lucky to live near such a place. Go to the matchfinder forum here to see if there's anything nearby. Playing with your personal friends is fine too. Right now you just need people to play against so you can get comfortable implementing what you're learning.
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Oh, in that case. First, get your execution down. You still need training mode to do your basic moves. Learn those basic combos and use them in your matches with your friends. You don't NEED to learn the super complicated combos yet. You learn them as you go. Eventually the basic combos will be second nature, and all you'll have to do is add a few moves here or there to them to learn the more advanced combos, so it'll be easier, and by then you should be more comfortable with the ins and outs of the game. Having someone else to play with is good since you can both get better together.
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Yeah, you say you don't want to do training mode, but you need to. Also 2 weeks is barely any time at all to get good at a character. Give it 3 months. Also it's perfectly normal to struggle with combos, etc. Just takes practice. For Haku's falling C combo I wasn't able to do it until six or seven months after I got the game. Everyone starts where you are, so don't think you're bad or that everyone else just magically picks up the game and does everything easily. I come from SF2 as well; there's actually quite a few similarities, you just have to see them since they are presented differently. The separate moves of the characters still matter and you still need to understand them. It's just that in this game after you land that one move you can get more damage out of it since it goes into a combo once you hit. Playing with others is a good way to get better and get experience while having fun.
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Well, it actually doesn't come quickly. It takes a lot of work; it's like learning an instrument. But after a while you break through a point where it all becomes natural and you can do things without thinking about them. I'd say first and foremost, pick one character. The characters are all so different you can't really learn them all at once. You have to focus on one. Then learn their moves, and actually remember them so you know when to use what. Also go into training mode and practice doing their special moves until you can do them consistently. When I tried to learn new moves or combos I'd try to do them like 10 times in a row. If I couldn't do it almost 10 times then that means I didn't have it down yet. Also you have to be deliberate in your actions. Don't panic and just mash buttons. Think through what you want to do clearly and take your time. It's OK if you mess up the first few times because of it as eventually you'll be able to nail the moves you need to when you're thinking clearly. The #1 thing you need is perseverance. Since you're a beginner, I suggest picking up Ragna. He's the most "normal" character. When you feel comfortable doing his moves, move onto some basic combos. Oh, and to do that you have to learn the combo notation people use online.
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Do you have time for a fully charged 6C Fatal?
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Aw, that sucks. I hate it when that happens. Good info though.
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Nope.
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If I'm reading his combo correctly, it's not j.2A > IAD j.2A, but just two j.2As in a row.
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I am entertained. :P You beat me to some of my points. Also he just ignored what you said lool
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Hah! Marth is the same character I always used! I loved his counters, and having the mobility and range he had. Part of why I was down on Brawl is that he felt a lot more sluggish. Yeah, Hakumen has changed a bunch, but I think I actually prefer his CT incarnation better, even if he was worse. Mainly because his style has changed as well. It's become a lot more zoning oriented, and less counter and defense based. The old Hakumen was like a ticking time bomb; you'd wait for the right moment, and then when you got the right read you'd lop off half their life. I actually enjoyed having to fight an uphill battle, because it makes you have to give 100% every match and makes it so you have to outthink your opponent and iron out all your mistakes. You can't be lazy. I still like Haku though. 3D fighters tend to be a lot less demanding than 2D ones though, as you noticed. They're still fun though. Soul Calibur 2 was amazing.
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Interesting. I haven't seen that throw combo before. I'll try it out in training mode. Also you can do that original throw combo there without Gurren but the timing is tighter and spacing dependent.
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Also, good to hear you got into a serious fighter. I noticed BlazBlue brought in a lot of new players. I've been playing since SF2. My favorite fighters have been SF2, Capcom VS SNK2 and now BlazBlue. Although Smash Bros is another one of my favorites, but that's not a fighting game, it's a party game.
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Yeah, that's the Haku playbook. When we play I already know it's just gonna be j.C xN if we decide to try and play it out but I haven't been playing enough to put that effort in (ie., you're gonna win anyway) so I just go for random rushdown to have some fun. I've been doing that to Tager too, lool. Who did you play in Smash Bros? Basically I feel like CS so far is Brawl compared to what Melee was for CT. I was so hyped for Brawl, then I actually played it, two weeks later it was getting dust on my shelf. The fact that you randomly would trip enraged me so much.
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I just goof around when we fight. :P We had mirrors in CT and I'd win those :3 I haven't put the work into adapting to CS or anything. The online play is so laggy, I can't play with any of my friends, so I don't feel motivated, and the game itself is kinda eh to me now. I'm just burnt out on it. Do you know what I mean? I like how you space though. You seem to have all the right ranges down. I also like how you're good at landing j.D. So what do you recommend for Haku vs Haku? If I was going to just go by my experience in CT I'd say zone with j.C and turtle. You definitely improved since CT; it's something I immediately noticed. Or maybe it's just that you have so much more experience with CS. Either way, good stuff.
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Isn't it like 200+ pages? Good luck with that.
