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Oh hit, breh, of course you wouldn't push buttons after a -4 move unless you condition them to look for a reversal lol Edit: Wait a damn minute, I have no idea why I even did all that. The point was to do it on hit. Herp da fucking derp, I need to get some sleep lol. Edit 2: Well, the answer is still the same, it doesn't work because Jin's hurt-box expands a hella lot during 5C and you'll get tagged by even Noel's 5A. Edit 3: GGs to Dr. Patient's room Shoutouts to furious D mash by Gelatea Shoutouts to Astrolls Shoutouts to trolling Shoutouts to dat fitting room name "Stop, that' s gay" as there were a lot of "stop, that's gay" moments out there.

Yup, tried it and even Noel with her crappy reach 5A will tag you out of 5C. The only way it will work is if you use it at its absolute max range and have the opponent barrier block the 6A. So 5C after 6A is pretty damn iffy. Oh Jin, you and your shitty hit/hurt-boxes lol. @Batou - That's pretty much what I do against Jyo. The right use of reversals will force the opponent into trying to bait it and not reset pressure for free, you can also use that to escape pressure or to push buttons if you're gutsy. I just need to force Jyo to stop doing wake-up DP as that's pretty much the most predictable place to DP. It's a good thing that I know Jin's DP blind spots so it doesn't matter if he DPs or not but if he does then I'll just take half of his health in one go lol.

Mmm, Jin's 5C has a bigger hurt-box than a hit-box on the first active frame. There's a huge chance that they'll tag you as the hurt-box extends if their character has a jab with decent reach. It's worth a try though, I'll have to hop in the lab and see how this fares.

Posting the "list of shit that beats 6A on hit" here before I forget lol Ragna 5A - 5F, trades with 5A but loses to 2A 2A - 7F, win Advantageous, 2A will beat his 2A and low profile under his 5A. Jin: 5A - 6F, trades with 5A but loses to 2A 2A - 7F, win Advantageous, same as Ragna. Rachel: 5A - 6F, hits crouching so it will trade with 2A but lose to 5A. 2A - 7F, loses to 2A but wins against 5A Disadvantageous, guess right on her 5A with 5A and you win. Guess wrong on her 2A with 5A, you whiff and lose. Trade her 5A with your 2A and you're back to neutral (not good for Jin as you just gave up the momentum in this little game of rock-paper-scissors). Carl: 5A - 6F, loses to 5A and trades with 2A 2A - 6F, trades with 2A and beats 5A You're fucked, his 2A trades with your 2A and beats 5A. There's no reason for him to use 5A in this scenario when 2A puts him back in neutral at worst. Arakune: 5A - 6F 2A - 10F Disadvantageous, same as Rachel. Bang: 5A - 6F 2A - 8F Disadvantageous, same as Rachel and Arakune. Hakumen: 5A - 5F, trades with 5A but loses to 2A 2A - 7F, loses to both 5A and 2A 50/50, guess right and you'll beat his 2A with both 5A and 2A. Guess wrong and you'll trade with 5A, putting you back in neutral. Tsubaki: 5A - 6F 2A - 7F Disadvantageous, same as Rachel, Arakune, and Bang. Hazama: 5A - 5F 2A - 6F You're fucked, same as Carl. Lambda: 5A - 6F 2A - 8F Advantageous, same as Ragna and Jin. Tager: 5A - 7F, loses to 5A 2A - 8F, loses to 5A I'd say advantageous but that pitiful amount of frame disadvantage doesn't mean shit to him. In fact, he wants you there so that he can employ his own guessing game of A Buster, AC, and backdash/DP punishes. Litchi 5A - 6F 2A - 7F Advantageous, same as Ragna, Jin, and Lambda. Taokaka: Her 2A low profiles under all of your ground normals, beats 2B and recovers on time to dodge or block 6B. Nuff' said. (You're fucked, same as Carl and Hazama). Noel: 5A - 5F, hits crouchers. You're fucked, same as Carl, Hazama, and Tao. Mu: 5A - 6F 2A - 7F Advantageous, same as Ragna, Jin, Lambda, and Litchi. Makoto: 5A - 5F 2A - 6F You're fucked, same as Carl, Hazama, Tao, and Noel. Plat: 5A - 6F 2A - 8F Disadvantageous, same as Rachel, Arakune, Bang, and Tsubaki. Valk: 5A - 6F 2A - 7F Advantageous, same as Ragna, Jin, Lambda, Litchi and Mu. Relius: 5A - 6F 2A - 7F Advantageous, same as Ragna, Jin, Lambda, Litchi, Mu, and Valk. So we have 7 advantageous situations, 5 disadvantageous situations, 5 situations where we're completely fucked, one 50-50, and one where it's not worth being in that position. I don't know about you but this is some bullshit right here. So the verdict says to push buttons against Relius, Ragna, Jin, Lambda, Litchi, Mu, and Valk. Don't push buttons against Makoto, Carl, Hazama, Tao, and Noel. Push buttons at your own shitty risk against Plat, Rachel, Arakune, Bang, and Tsubaki. Push buttons for a 50-50 with Hakumen. I'd say don't risk it against Tager because of a guessing game of his own. Well that or TRM them if they're in range for it lol.

More like Jin has to respect Hazama if he lands a 6A on the latter lol. What that means is that you basically shouldn't use 6A against like half the cast. I hope I find my list again because I forgot which characters can mash after 6A. Most characters with a 5F 5A and a 6F 2A or a 5-6F 5A that hits crouching just spit on Jin's 6A lol.

6A on hit is barely +1 on hit. I did some lab work back in the day and more than half the cast can get away with mashing A and be in a favorable position.

I was holding the throw OS before 6A and got TRM'd. You can get away with mashing A and reacting to the purple throw but if you hold the OS before then, you will get tossed. This is pretty much the first time that thing has ever worked on me from the hundreds of matches I've played Jyo and I swear to God almighty that I will never get tagged by that ever again, unless the connection is being derp (which it was from time to time). Oh and 6A can be canceled into a throw, that's why it works. The -4 is irrelevant here.

GGs Jyo Two things... 1) It shouldn't take me 20 matches to condition you into not doing wake-up DPs lol 2) Stop up+backing all the damn time during pressure and neutral. That's a free air throw and Plat air throws are an easy 3.7K+ every time. Shoutouts to being groggy and getting hit by 6A > TRM more than once. I'm over trying to OS tech throw on 5B hit for who knows why and dat BB buffer repeated the input all the way until 6A > throw lol. Never in the past have you ever landed that on me and never again lol.

Oh God yes, delicious rage mail, haven't had it in a while. "Asshole... blah... blah... Platinum is broken... blah... blah... spamming the same 3 moves... blah... blah... *every possible curse you can think of*... blah... blah... fuck you fuck you fuck you... stay off my game you cheap scrub" lol, stay mad, GregorySMoser.

Just woke up, I really need to fix these shitty sleeping habits of mine lol. Time for games :D

I should be available any time after 1 AM - 3 AM EST and then probably from 9 AM - 11 AM.

Nah, you won't even know who's using the net to begin with and even if you did, I don't think they'd give much of a fuck lol.

It stinks like hell in here though but I was too lazy to go outside that time, never again lol. I couldn't force myself to enjoy laggy matches, don't know how you do it but I guess you have no choice since you really can't tell when someone is using the net there (other than the match being laggy).

If the lag is that bad then I can see their complaining being legit as long as they don't use it as an OS as to why they lost and whatnot. Other option is to just avoid the laggy person from that point on. GGs people Shoutouts to SKD Astrolls. No humility at all lol Shoutouts to Gold Bursts Shoutouts to 3-bar connection lag Shoutouts to the smoke stench in my room that's been lingering about for the last 3 days. Note to self, don't smoke in the room without having a window open first. Shoutouts to two hours of sleep. I'm over here so tired that I tried to preemptively block would-be Jin j.2C cross-ups lol.

Alright, I'm watching a video right now so I'll be there with you guys in a bout 30 minutes.

Nope, add me breh

I'm kinda bored so I'll have to take you up on that offer. Tell him to add me real quick, I'm getting my video to buffer lol.

lol I just woke up. Play me Jyo XD

lol Ooh, ooh, I'm next I know I said that I usually don't feel myself but I just had to in this match XD

Sounds like the typical Tager match-up to me. "Hahaha, I have the health lead now, catch me if you can, sucka" > Gets magnetized by a random 2D/Sparkbolt > Guessing shenanigans > I DAI

This is actually pretty damn interesting, I seriously thought that the weird typesetting was just gibberish. Keep up the good work, people.

Well you did sound relatively upset back there so I could only think of a scenario like that lol. Edit: I don't care about what he said, I just want to know who it is lol.

He says that but I know that deep inside the inner Rachel gets a hold of him. "You lowly filth, kneel before me" TD, PM, I WANT TO KNOW There are way too many big headed people out there but shit talk and talking down on people means nothing if they don't have skill to back it up.

Isn't Zeron always calling people out on how much they suck though? Usually random players though lol

PM their name on the message title, I'm THAT curious XD