Nakkiel Posted February 3, 2010 Posted February 3, 2010 have you seen the recent A-cho stuff, there's some crazy crap in there(I just favourited like 12 videos with baiken in em). I wish 0 played more, his OS is so beast. And yeah, go PNW :toot:
Spirit Juice Posted February 3, 2010 Posted February 3, 2010 Best case scenario: (by some miracle) BBCS comes out on console, all is well Worst case scenario: BBCT stays in Evo line up, takes up slot for an otherwise deserving game, has a poor amount of people enter, has very unhype finals Since BBCS is 99% likely to not be out on time, the best possible choice would be to remove BBCT from the official line up of games. That's not to say that the BB community doesn't care about the game, because they do. They are hungry for the game, tournaments, and competition, but CT is not very well liked, especially compared to CS. If CT remained at Evo, I'm sure some people would still enter it, but the numbers and amount of care will be low compared to CS's potential. Give the slot to a community that wants it more for their game... but just don't forget that the BB community does care about BB... just not CT.
HeartNana Posted February 3, 2010 Posted February 3, 2010 IMO BB:CT is a waste and I actually hope it gets taken out because it's just not going to get the numbers that it got last year. Last year, it was a side tourney, brand new, and $5. This year, it's registration, old game, and a lot more to enter. I think it'll be best if you leave it as a side event and include something that the community wants (like MB).
mooyang90 Posted February 3, 2010 Posted February 3, 2010 While CT was not a horrible game, it will nevertheless be a very UNHYPE game if it was at this year's Evo. No one on srk gives a shit about it, no one on tekkenzaibatsu gives a shit about it, and sadly enough barely anyone on dustloop gives a shit about it anymore. That is basically all the playerbase that's going to Evo. It's been said again and again, people who enter games like GG/BB don't usually enter Capcom games in mass droves. There's very little cross-over between the two communities. If you also had a game like GG in the official line-up, maybe more people will pay the 10 dollars to enter BB because "hey, already paid the 50 dolla registration fee for GG...might as well get the most out of it and enter CT for shits and giggles..." Right now, you only have CT to entice the dustloop crowd into paying a 50 dollar registration fee...and that game is simply not very enticing at this very moment. Very few people here will do it, and best case scenario you'll have a tournament chock-full of SFIV players mashing D with Nu or some shit...this spot should definitely be given to the second placer of the Evo poll.
tolore Posted February 3, 2010 Posted February 3, 2010 the problem is the ONLY tag on the Acho videos is a-cho ggxx. you can't really search for them, I'll pm you a link, and you can find the rest from their you tube account/related videos.
Kyosuke Kagami Posted February 3, 2010 Posted February 3, 2010 Uh... I think something like CvS2 would have more chance to enter in Evo than MB. Isn't it possible to consider GGAC for Evo this time? Any retrains or rule that prevents that?
render Posted February 3, 2010 Posted February 3, 2010 The problem with still running CT at EVO is that even if the people who have moved onto CS acknowledge CT as a legit game to run, none of those people are going to get AT ALL hype about the game. Those who haven't moved on are the people who aren't dedicated enough to get their hands on CS in some form, or who are only interested in net-play. I'm not trying to discredit their skills online (though it's a much different game), but how many of those online players go to tournaments? EVO is the perfect opportunity to put CS in the spotlight and get the word out that the new BB is out there and it's a really good game. But if CS simply CAN'T be run at EVO legitimately, then that's too bad. I'm sure it will turn heads as a side tournament, but timing didn't work out. If any version of BB is going to be run as a main game, it should be the version that's going to get the most hype, and that's most definitely NOT CT. It's a tough position for Aksys too. They can't just come out and confirm or deny whether it's getting released in time for EVO, because that might not fit into their marketing plan/schedule, AND it would automatically confirm that it IS coming out in the US, which may be information that they're not in a position to concede. Don't get me wrong, I am extremely grateful for BB's initial inclusion in EVO2010, and I would be ecstatic to see CS make it in there. I think the fact that the EVO staff is considering taking CT out is because they DO give a shit about the BB community, and are acknowledging that if BB is going to be at EVO, it should be done RIGHT.
qwerty Posted February 3, 2010 Posted February 3, 2010 if they stick with ct they should just go ahead and mail veteru his winnings right now
tolore Posted February 3, 2010 Posted February 3, 2010 veteru's got a better chance in CS IMO, ragna is super good!
Spirit Juice Posted February 3, 2010 Posted February 3, 2010 Let's try to keep on topic here. Please don't talk about what game or games should take the last or last two Evo game spots since that's not what Evo staff wants to know.
Kenny tuty Posted February 3, 2010 Posted February 3, 2010 hm, not much are left for me to say now. haha As one of the CS players, I'd say spot for blazblue calamity trigger should be replaced for other game. I'm (I'm pretty sure WE as well) really glad that evo cares about our society this much, but I just don't feel like what CT has right now isn't worth making it an the official game of EVO, which very much means US fighting game's main stream.
Jais Posted February 3, 2010 Posted February 3, 2010 The best choice is for CT to be removed and the spot given to a community's game that is fortunate enough to have a console release. I would prefer GG but second place on the poll makes the most sense. CT; finals would be so unbearably lackluster, attendance would be poor, too much $ spent on an outdated game.
kro_ Posted February 3, 2010 Posted February 3, 2010 I agree with Veteru. I'd rather have BB there than not have it at all and I'm fine with playing either. There are tons of players I never got the chance to play in CT and EVO is a good chance to do this. It's just that since everyone is playing CS, the people that end up playing CT won't be playing their best because their training was directed elsewhere. So I guess it's already too late, huh? BB should have more entrants than whatever polled game makes it because of the wave of new sf4 players. I figured this was the main reason EVO decided to keep it in the lineup and I'm kind of surprised that the anti-BB sentiment on SRK actually got this bad. If people actually put in the effort to revitalize cvs2, or if it gives mbaa the chance to actually get a spot on the big screen, then go ahead and put CT away. I've played all of the previous big three and mb at local tournaments at one point or another so I'd be happy to get in on the fun. However, if the entire purpose of this 2nd option is to have a Choi vs Bas rematch and nobody ever plays cvs2 again, I will be severely disappointed.
tolore Posted February 3, 2010 Posted February 3, 2010 the anti bb sentiment on srk was mostly anti CT, it doesn't seem like most people have a problem with BB itself.
Nakkiel Posted February 3, 2010 Posted February 3, 2010 BB itself was never faulted. People were just wondering why CT was there when it was so unfavoured.
Jam-Kiske Posted February 3, 2010 Posted February 3, 2010 I agree with the masses in that another more hype game would be far better than BBCT. The best scenes for BB tend to be located in places where the players can already access CS, so they've all been focusing on it for about 2 months now. As somebody else mentioned, it would be basically 8 months since anybody with access to CS gave a damn about CT when Evo happens. And the people who show up to Evo are going to be the truly serious players, none of whom really want to play CT ever again at this point. It would make far more sense to place another game in the slot so that something else could get exposure and fans that actually want to see it could go out for it.
Mr. Camaro Posted February 3, 2010 Posted February 3, 2010 I logged onto SRK hoping to read some serious BB hate I found very little and was disappointed
Soniti Posted February 3, 2010 Posted February 3, 2010 For the main lineup, let the 2nd place game in the poll take the spot. Let BB:CT be run as a $5 side tournament like last year (AkSys can still handle it). That way it will still get many entries without ruining things for a more deserving game and we won't have to watch Nu on the big screen. I would totally enter that side event, but that might have a lot to do with me being a Rachel player and not the quality of the game ^_^ edit: definitely talk to AkSys and see if you can get them to bring beta versions of BBCS console or something, it would be great if we could make it happen. Also, they should run a setup or two (from arcade board or dev kit) for people to try out the game who don't have access to it. Tons of hype is generated for them from either or both of those ideas so it's win-win if they can pull it off.
Tronzilla666 Posted February 3, 2010 Posted February 3, 2010 Yeah taking CT out is a great idea since the BB community is on BB:CS and rags on that game too much anyway. It will be good to know that Marvel will probably be added and second not too sure about. Tatsunoko woohoo!!
DoomieJ Posted February 3, 2010 Posted February 3, 2010 Lets put it this way. If BBCT is there, i wont enter. If BBCS is there, i will enter. THATS ALL.
Mooshi-Q Posted February 3, 2010 Posted February 3, 2010 Since BBCS is 99% likely to not be out on time... Is this just speculation or has Arc actually hinted at an approximate console release date? I would think this would be an important detail in the discussion.
Kyosuke Kagami Posted February 3, 2010 Posted February 3, 2010 Quick question: When (exactly) did Arcsys announce the BBCT port, one year ago? Maybe they'll announce BBCS in a similar date :o
render Posted February 3, 2010 Posted February 3, 2010 Is this just speculation or has Arc actually hinted at an approximate console release date? I would think this would be an important detail in the discussion. There has been no public statement regarding a US release of BB:CS from Aksys or any other party (you would've heard if there had been), so unless Spirit Juice has some sweet connections that I'm unaware of, his comment is purely speculation. The US console release for BB:CT wasn't announced until March 2009 for a late June 2009 release. It's my understanding that an announcement this March is still too late for the EVO staff to make their decision on it, and I don't imagine Aksys (and thereby, Arc System Works) will push to make an announcement about it just for the sake of EVO (which is foolish, in my opinion, but oh well). As stated in the OP, they'd like to make a decision THIS FRIDAY. EDIT: Here's the official announcement from Aksys for the US BB:CT console release, dated March 4th: http://www.aksysgames.com/2009/03/04/blazblue-announced-for-north-america-bs/ Hi-Res, 2D fighting awesomeness coming to your Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3 this summer! It should also be noted that even when they DID announce it, they didn't specify a date. Stating that it would come out before EVO would pretty much lock them into having it done and shipped before July 9th (EVO date), and that's not a smart thing for game publishers to do if they're still working on it.
Purrin Posted February 3, 2010 Posted February 3, 2010 Take CT out. Continuing Shit would be nice but seems unlikely. If possible I'd vote for GG to replace it.
Tofu Warrior Posted February 3, 2010 Posted February 3, 2010 Definitely drop CT; as was mentioned, it's an awful game. On top of that, it made a very poor impression at EVO on the fighting game community at large. I feel like BB:CS could sway a lot of opinions, seeing as it's more balanced and just a better game overall. Continuing to promote CT will only serve to damage the BB community's reputation.
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