Slayer AC strats

[Ross]

Any chance that you're teching their throw with a bite? Maybe if you're in range of their throw and you throw on the same frame it techs?

Thats what happens... You actually tech the throw with the bite, the bite isn't techable, happens with anything that has any throw vulnerable special with HS in it that ends at back or fowards. Try it with fausts unblockable... it's hilarious, you tech the throw and then they bounce into the slashes... I think if I remember you can easily combo afterwards.

[Hellmonkey]

I wonder if the same thing would happen if you did another command grab with another character and pressed kick (or whichever other button) and HS at the same time.

[Ross]

I wonder if the same thing would happen if you did another command grab with another character and pressed kick (or whichever other button) and HS at the same time.

hmmm I don't know... what happens when you try and option select grab as someone grabs, do you tech a throw or does the other person just get hit?

[Hellmonkey]

Actually, how about doing any special when you tech with HS? It sounds like it first registers as a grab tech, since you are doing one direction and HS, but your move still comes out. Maybe you could do supers or something while throw teching??

[rtl42]

Hellmnkey: i'm not sure i follow your wording, but if it helps any, you can throw tech with Sidewinder, for example. (i did this accidentally, once.)

[Villainous]

Yeah bite is definitely techable, I've seen it twice now and Slayer is very clearly in his whiff animation for bite and there's a purple flash. Maybe you have to hit like back and H or maybe do bite's input at the same time. I'm not sure. I believe when I saw it, it was in a slayer vs. slayer match, so it could just be like a bite clash? I dunno.

[Ross]

It's not techable it just goes into the whiff when it techs the throw... you are teching their throw they aren't teching your command grab.

[Kix]

how do you know the grab is coming out and not HS?

and if you're at a disadvantage, it's probably them throwing you first, and then you teching because you're hitting normal throw even though you input your command grab.

the easy way to test this is to see if they can tech it while standing outside their normal throw range.

That's what happens when it techs. So you are definately in the grab.

[Kix]

Thats what happens... You actually tech the throw with the bite, the bite isn't techable, happens with anything that has any throw vulnerable special with HS in it that ends at back or fowards. Try it with fausts unblockable... it's hilarious, you tech the throw and then they bounce into the slashes... I think if I remember you can easily combo afterwards.

No, Slayer is definately getting teched - he starts up before them. The opponent grabs Slayer. We recreated it like 6 times with different characters. You flash purple. Do I need to record this?

This is seriously disappointing BS. I was hoping this was not in the American version and was a bug.

[Klaige]

Are you guys forgetting that slayers regular throw animation has him leaning forward to blow smoke? Command throws are not techible i'm quite sure.

[Zaido]

from what i read, Command Grabs can't be teched.. SO... if it is still what you say its techable, then just record the thign and show prove us all wrong so we can just shut up already :/... i mean, i am kind of tired to see and alsothis is getting me down to think that its actually techable.. but you got to remmeber that slayer is Pushign HS not liek most character command grab.. which is other buttons plsu Bite has start up frames i believe, so it is possible if oppnent grab you befor eyou bite them but then agian yea.. i mean to stop the argument just show PRoof of ur findings...

[ChronoSabre]

This topic was mentioned before, and I believe now that it's just a 1 frame throw break when the opponent throws slayer before the bite actually hits. It'd be nice to know for sure though, since it's happened at least twice that I've seen.

[Ross]

Why is it so hard to believe that the system is all ganked like that on the way throw breaks work (IE any special move with a hs breaks throws) This is guilty gear, new systems are generally a little ganked..... Plus it sort of makes sense with guilty gears whole transmute properties shit it does on soo much stuff... Also I can't envision a way to test whether the command grab was getting teched or the hs was tecing the throw that I would really believe even showing it on video wouldn't really do anything because it'd just look like a one frame tech with the bite whiffing... and thats what should happen if you tech a throw with the bite.....

[CrimsonDisaster]

Then test with other moves that use H to trigger and tech throws with that. If those tech throws also, then it's probably that kind of system mechanic (ex. rtl teching with Sidewinder). The bite is probably the most likely scenario for it to happen, all things considered, but given that other people have re-created it with other moves, it seems like a general stupid property of throw breaks, rather than Slayer having a techable command throw.

[Mike Z]

- You can tech your opponent's throws with any special that ends in 4H or 6H (for example, 236236H "To SPACE!" with Slayer). - If you do so, your character will do their special immediately after teching, before the opponent is able to move. However, the opponent is completely invincible, so if this is what's happening Slayer should tech and immediately do a whiffed bite. - Another way to test this is by doing the bite as a release move (i.e. do it by releasing H) because I think releasing the button won't tech throws...but you should check that first. You can also tech while FDing... Mike Z

[Villainous]

Where'd you get this info from? Seems like the right case, but just curious how you know.

[rtl42]

you do it. or read the posts of THE MAN WHO SEARCHES FOR HIS OWN NAME.

[Mike Z]

rtl nailed it - I mess around to see how games work a lot. (^.^) Just like He Who Shall Not Be Named Lest He Find These Posts. Mike Z

[低姿勢]

I also have people deticated to me. Minons, if you will. That look out for me. And serve the mnost awsome purpose of being awsome. Dont think I cant find things. They sneak and detect. Ho ho ho.

[EclipsingBinary]

So, when you complete the 63214H motion at the same time an opponent tries to throw you, the game will use the 4H to tech out of the throw, kind of like an option select, and then when you release H, you end up immediately negative edging the bite. Is that the correct interpretation?

[Zaido]

you can say that, but this option select might leave you to ur doom too incase ur doing amove and they are still in inv and you just completely whiff and find ur self getting hit XD..

[Mike Z]

I think it counts the H as both the bite input and the throw tech, because I seem to remember not having to release it to get the special after teching...you get it no matter what. Mike Z

[rtl42]

yeah what Mike said. i just tried it at home, and i got it three times in a row after a couple of misses. not hard to recreate -- everyone that's not a believer should go into training mode right now! >=o late edit: i was doing it again with Sidewinder, Jackhound, etc...

[Ross]

I am sad that no one believed me... But whateva. Now Mike Z has come in with the smack down. Good shit!

[Kix]

Okay that makes much more sense. I still feel as though I did the move and it got teched on impact but I'm seriously doubting it now.