Warhound Posted September 29, 2012 Posted September 29, 2012 Yukikaze is cs2/csex, and valid point. 6d definitely won't be good in cp with the way they\re adjusting it. What's the amount of frames until it's active? 10 frames? Wtf am I even going to use 6D for in CP? I don't have a good concept of frames, but that sounds terrible next to 1F activation! Anyone up for the idea of Hakumen's new drive? I call it: Lagswitch. I think it's German.
mAc Chaos Posted September 29, 2012 Posted September 29, 2012 10f startup is basically how long 3C takes. Well, actually 3C is 1 frame faster. So if you can't do 3C in the middle of the blockstring you can't do 6D.
Isuna Posted September 29, 2012 Posted September 29, 2012 Well, 6D is the overhead counter right? And overheads are start at 17F, so having 6D 10F start-up is not a problem! ... oh, right, that's not how it works... >_>
Darkside937 Posted September 30, 2012 Posted September 30, 2012 What's the minimum startup on 5D? Might be faster to use that or instant j.D if you need to counter high.
samthegreat Posted September 30, 2012 Posted September 30, 2012 Hey Dark think positive, at least you don't have to change your user title. You're just going to be the one dying instead. But yeah what happens to 2D, still 1f? Cause if it's not, the balance team is officially retarded.
BladeOfJustice7 Posted September 30, 2012 Posted September 30, 2012 What's the minimum startup on 5D? Might be faster to use that or instant j.D if you need to counter high.
Isuna Posted September 30, 2012 Posted September 30, 2012 Well, saying that they haven't change 2D and JD isn't really fair. As far as I know they are blockable like 5D, and 2D isn't comboable outside OD. I've heard rumours that low-air JD chains to 5A as well. ...so, what do we use 6D for? Ultra-high-risk-small-reward instead of our other High-risk-minimal-reward?
samthegreat Posted September 30, 2012 Posted September 30, 2012 Blockable 2D? So what happens if I set George in the corner after 3C and block?
Warhound Posted September 30, 2012 Posted September 30, 2012 I assume you're just going to block 2D. But I don't know what kind of blockstun they gave his counter's "grab". So either you still have the advantage, or they didn't entirely fuck up, and we have the advantage on block. Somehow, I doubt the latter is the case.
WolfCrimson Posted September 30, 2012 Posted September 30, 2012 I see almost everyone has Major Depressive Disorder in this thread, almost all posts I see are pessimistic in nature. Cheer up guys!
Warhound Posted September 30, 2012 Posted September 30, 2012 (edited) http://30.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_li5teaZk5X1qhm641o1_500.gif Edited September 30, 2012 by Warhound
Sophisticat Posted September 30, 2012 Author Posted September 30, 2012 The only times I use j.D are when I accidentally press up when doing 5D.
dioxideUniversa Posted September 30, 2012 Posted September 30, 2012 (edited) I see almost everyone has Major Depressive Disorder in this thread, almost all posts I see are pessimistic in nature. Cheer up guys! i have major not giving a fuck disorder. (hence no posts.) focus on complete eradication. 10f startup is basically how long 3C takes. Well, actually 3C is 1 frame faster. So if you can't do 3C in the middle of the blockstring you can't do 6D. 3c is a better combo starter to boot :p What a kick in the ass, though. "I think he might do an overhead" > 3C CH Edited September 30, 2012 by dioxideUniversa
psycofang2 Posted October 1, 2012 Posted October 1, 2012 I see almost everyone has Major Depressive Disorder in this thread, almost all posts I see are pessimistic in nature. Cheer up guys!
toanenadiz Posted October 1, 2012 Posted October 1, 2012 I know it isn't that important but are you guys positive it is a throw/grab and not just an unblockable? Because my testing makes it seem like it is an unblockable (akin to Tager's astral) rather than any kind of throw.
WolfCrimson Posted October 1, 2012 Posted October 1, 2012 I'm a Haku player too, dude, ever since CT. Heck, nowadays I only play Haku in CSEX because Ragna is super retarded in this version.
mAc Chaos Posted October 1, 2012 Posted October 1, 2012 I know it isn't that important but are you guys positive it is a throw/grab and not just an unblockable? Because my testing makes it seem like it is an unblockable (akin to Tager's astral) rather than any kind of throw. How would we be able to tell the difference.
Fluck Posted October 1, 2012 Posted October 1, 2012 Haku's counters are unblockables in non-CP games, that's why 6D works on air attacks.
Isuna Posted October 1, 2012 Posted October 1, 2012 I assume you're just going to block 2D. But I don't know what kind of blockstun they gave his counter's "grab". So either you still have the advantage, or they didn't entirely fuck up, and we have the advantage on block. Somehow, I doubt the latter is the case. The guys at the JBBS always asks the player whether Zanshin is advantegous on block or not, but no one seems to have an answer. Judging by this I would guess it is probably neutral on block. I see almost everyone has Major Depressive Disorder in this thread, almost all posts I see are pessimistic in nature. Cheer up guys! Yes! We can combo of 6B(CH) now and 2B gatlings to 3C! I'm so happy! It completely overshades the fact that they nerfed Tsubaki, Hotaru, Renka, Zanshin, Mugen, J2A, JB, 5A and 2A! The only times I use j.D are when I accidentally press up when doing 5D. Yukikaze... double quater-circles... my mortal enemy. hakumen is going to hell [...] personally im kinda glad they are trying to balance hakumen but i think the current balance team is made of manatees on crack. seriously none of these changes really make sense [...] I thought this was what your signature is all about?
WolfCrimson Posted October 1, 2012 Posted October 1, 2012 Yes! We can combo of 6B(CH) now and 2B gatlings to 3C! I'm so happy! It completely overshades the fact that they nerfed Tsubaki, Hotaru, Renka, Zanshin, Mugen, J2A, JB, 5A and 2A! Dude, it's just loketests. There's no reason to panic yet, you'll just cause yourself unnecessary stress.
dioxideUniversa Posted October 1, 2012 Posted October 1, 2012 (edited) land of salt like i dunno really this subforum is just totally nauseating to check lately. call me a ragna player but i dont play ragna i know the *****proposed***** changes are bad but come on Edited October 1, 2012 by dioxideUniversa
Isuna Posted October 1, 2012 Posted October 1, 2012 Dude, it's just loketests. There's no reason to panic yet, you'll just cause yourself unnecessary stress. I looked at the loketests notes for Extend, and all changes to Hakumen were final. A japanese guy at the JBBS said this has been the case for all installments. There IS reason to rage right now, there IS.
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