toanenadiz Posted July 15, 2012 Posted July 15, 2012 Play me some more and spam it, so I can over it lol. You have to be lucky to find me online. Especially with my decision to play through my backlog (which the Steam sale is making worse ). Just ask Mac how to find me online. He does a really good job at it.
MashThat5A Posted July 15, 2012 Posted July 15, 2012 It takes years to get really good at fighting games. It's hard to suck it up and remember that the road ahead is long, and that your goal is far away - that you can't become a god capable of crushing everyone overnight. But you've gotta learn that one way or another before you can really start getting better. I've been playing BB for one year, and it's my first competitive fighting game.
mAc Chaos Posted July 15, 2012 Posted July 15, 2012 I've been playing BB for one year, and it's my first competitive fighting game. Everyone's different. Some people take to something like water and others have to study it and be more deliberate. Not to mention mindset. The wrong mindset can handicap you for years.
Dont_Explain Posted July 15, 2012 Posted July 15, 2012 I've been playing BB for one year, and it's my first competitive fighting game. You have a scene with good players. I wish I had that kind of help starting off.
Joeby185 Posted July 15, 2012 Posted July 15, 2012 GGs to mr Biscuits room although i still need to work on that MU lol. Im starting to get tired of people refusing to use there main against me and instead choosing Rag. Its not like I am madd good at this game im still sort of new lol. I guess some ppl feel im only worthy enough to fight Rag... ah well moving on.
toanenadiz Posted July 15, 2012 Posted July 15, 2012 GGs to mr Biscuits room although i still need to work on that MU lol. Im starting to get tired of people refusing to use there main against me and instead choosing Rag. Its not like I am madd good at this game im still sort of new lol. I guess some ppl feel im only worthy enough to fight Rag... ah well moving on. At least you're getting lots of Ragna experience so you won't get blown up by them like I do.
MashThat5A Posted July 15, 2012 Posted July 15, 2012 (edited) You have a scene with good players. I wish I had that kind of help starting off. Actually for the first 6-ish months I only netplayed since I was at school and I only went to one tournament. @Mac, all it really takes is the right mindset and being able to recognize what you need to learn. Too many people get stuck on combos first instead of learning how to actually hit the other person. :/ Edited July 15, 2012 by MashThat5A
Moy_X7 Posted July 15, 2012 Posted July 15, 2012 You have a scene with good players. I wish I had that kind of help starting off. Is that really what you think is holding you back? I mean, Omni was a pure netplayer until a while back and he placed pretty high in his first couple of tournaments. The same can be said about some other netplayers. Hell, even LK encourages netplay as long as you play people with decent connections. I know I've played better netplayers than what the offline scene here has to offer. tl;dr - You can get to a pretty good level of skill with netplay alone, just make sure that you're playing decent players with good connections.
Jyosua Posted July 15, 2012 Posted July 15, 2012 I've been playing BB for one year, and it's my first competitive fighting game. I envy you. I've been playing BB (seriously) for 8 months, and it's my first competitive fighting game. You're much, much better than I. Is that really what you think is holding you back? I mean, Omni was a pure netplayer until a while back and he placed pretty high in his first couple of tournaments. The same can be said about some other netplayers. Hell, even LK encourages netplay as long as you play people with decent connections. I know I've played better netplayers than what the offline scene here has to offer. tl;dr - You can get to a pretty good level of skill with netplay alone, just make sure that you're playing decent players with good connections. Feux won the first major he ever went to, and he's primarily a netplayer IIRC.
Rhiya Posted July 15, 2012 Posted July 15, 2012 I've been playing BB for one year, and it's my first competitive fighting game. You say it's your first competitive fighting game. What did you play before then? You'd be really surprised how exp from games like smash can help, as much we diss smash Actually for the first 6-ish months I only netplayed since I was at school and I only went to one tournament. @Mac, all it really takes is the right mindset and being able to recognize what you need to learn. Too many people get stuck on combos first instead of learning how to actually hit the other person. :/ This is also super-true. It took me forever to be like, uhhhhhh, maybe I should training mode blockstrings and blocking and solidly get attack ranges in my head
mAc Chaos Posted July 15, 2012 Posted July 15, 2012 @Mac, all it really takes is the right mindset and being able to recognize what you need to learn. Too many people get stuck on combos first instead of learning how to actually hit the other person. :/ I actually do it the other way around. I just use the character with practically no combo knowledge at first so I can just see what moves are useful. You say it's your first competitive fighting game. What did you play before then? You'd be really surprised how exp from games like smash can help, as much we diss smash Yeah, BB was the first fighting game I went all in on, but I've played plenty before them that gave me experience with how it works. Well, I still played them as competitively as I could with my friends, but there was no netplay and no online guides or anything.
Dont_Explain Posted July 15, 2012 Posted July 15, 2012 tl;dr - You can get to a pretty good level of skill with netplay alone, just make sure that you're playing decent players with good connections. Well CS1 that didn't happen. I couldn't really gauge most players' skill back then since I wasn't good, but I can't really say I remember anyone good. CS2 I started fighting some decent people like halfway through and found out about DL. And Extend..... I'm trying lol. @Mash: I'm kinda jelly then. Your 1 year > me.
TD Posted July 15, 2012 Posted July 15, 2012 Is that really what you think is holding you back? I mean, Omni was a pure netplayer until a while back and he placed pretty high in his first couple of tournaments. The same can be said about some other netplayers. Hell, even LK encourages netplay as long as you play people with decent connections. I know I've played better netplayers than what the offline scene here has to offer. tl;dr - You can get to a pretty good level of skill with netplay alone, just make sure that you're playing decent players with good connections. same here, i'm 95% netplay, 4% slave to the rhythm. only 1% real
Moy_X7 Posted July 15, 2012 Posted July 15, 2012 @Mac, all it really takes is the right mindset and being able to recognize what you need to learn. Too many people get stuck on combos first instead of learning how to actually hit the other person. :/ While all that may be true, you still can't deny the fact that some people learn at faster rates than others and then there are some who really are just talented. Still, having a positive mindset and learning from mistakes as opposed to just trying to win really helps. The bold... so fucking true and I can say it because back during the CT days, I did that. "Oh hey, I know a bunch of combos now, I bet I can win some matches" > Spends the entire match trying to land the various starters for said combos > Focuses on nothing but trying to land those combos > Loses the match I've also seen this throughout my fighting game life, seeing how people focus on nothing but combos and trying to be fancy instead of actually trying to win the damn match lol. What people need to do is just become incredibly familiar with their moveset (hit-boxes, frame data, properties, etc) before even attempting to land a combo. I learned the hard way but damn did I learn.
TD Posted July 15, 2012 Posted July 15, 2012 oh yeah. while we're on this topic... http://matakku-uzee-na.tumblr.com/post/27068197682/did-i-mention-i-hate-pro-gamers have fun scratching your heads in confusion
gli Posted July 15, 2012 Posted July 15, 2012 How about learning how to block for once instead of mashing on wake-up all the time
mAc Chaos Posted July 15, 2012 Posted July 15, 2012 While all that may be true, you still can't deny the fact that some people learn at faster rates than others and then there are some who really are just talented. Still, having a positive mindset and learning from mistakes as opposed to just trying to win really helps. The bold... so fucking true and I can say it because back during the CT days, I did that. "Oh hey, I know a bunch of combos now, I bet I can win some matches" > Spends the entire match trying to land the various starters for said combos > Focuses on nothing but trying to land those combos > Loses the match I've also seen this throughout my fighting game life, seeing how people focus on nothing but combos and trying to be fancy instead of actually trying to win the damn match lol. What people need to do is just become incredibly familiar with their moveset (hit-boxes, frame data, properties, etc) before even attempting to land a combo. I learned the hard way but damn did I learn. The reason they tend to learn combos first is that those are easy to verify. You do the combo, and you can see if you learned how to do it. Stuff like hitboxes and spacing is more passive and hard to pinpoint, so they can't tell if they got good at it or what they need to do.
Mucky Posted July 15, 2012 Posted July 15, 2012 you niggas and your practicing and mindsets, I just jump on the game and roll my face on the controller until something dies
toanenadiz Posted July 15, 2012 Posted July 15, 2012 you niggas and your practicing and mindsets, I just jump on the game and roll my face on the controller until something dies You mash sledge like that with your face? You have some amazing skill there.
BatousaiJ Posted July 15, 2012 Posted July 15, 2012 You mash sledge like that with your face? You have some amazing skill there. You should see his face... NSFL.
MashThat5A Posted July 15, 2012 Posted July 15, 2012 You say it's your first competitive fighting game. What did you play before then? You'd be really surprised how exp from games like smash can help, as much we diss smash I mashed on random buttons when I was 8 in SF2 and MK, and I played a little bit of Smash 64 during my first two years of college.
Dont_Explain Posted July 15, 2012 Posted July 15, 2012 http://matakku-uzee-na.tumblr.com/post/27068197682/did-i-mention-i-hate-pro-gamers You were right. I've never shook my head so many times in a matter of 5 minutes. I DAI'd when he mentioned IKs in GG.
floatwater Posted July 15, 2012 Posted July 15, 2012 Well, I didn't take BB seriously till late CS1. So I would say a year now or so. Pure netplay, I wanna go to summer jam 6 and see how well I do in each game I enter. @toan: I probably won't be net playing again for a bit. Dem IRL business
Moy_X7 Posted July 15, 2012 Posted July 15, 2012 And on top of that, they like to hide this fact by saying that there IS in fact a “loser mindset”, where you say “woe is me, I will never get good” or “If you think like a scrub, it’s because you ARE and you will never become anything else with that mindset”. I beg to differ my good, absent sir. Star-Demon is living proof of that
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