SoWL Posted September 8, 2012 Posted September 8, 2012 The new tracks in Extend were posted not too long after the arcade release. The same thing happened with the Persona OST, too.
Hecatom Posted September 8, 2012 Posted September 8, 2012 The ANSWER, as I have said since Extend was announced, is to do BOTH. Believe me that i know it, but in order to work, asw would need to change their approach of making the balance patch free while charging for the character. Making the balance free while is a nice touch done only for their fans, it doesn't put an incentive on getting the DLC characters for those who are not interested on them, and that is a huge lose monetarily speaking. Imo in order to work they could do something like retail, balance patch plus all the dlc characters, one balance patch grouped with one of each dlc char. I would also like a free dlc patch, but they aren't charity, they need to make a revenue for their work (plus putting those patches cost money) and sadly the way that they did it didn't work (without counting that many idiots felt robbed for them releasing BBCSEX when they got BBCSII for free)
GEKKA Posted September 8, 2012 Posted September 8, 2012 The same kinda goes for the other side of the argument. Yes we got CSII for free but they could have done the same for CSX and made Relius DLC. I wouldn't really have put it past them. I don't think it would have bothered me too much either. Yes their time is not free in either case but personally I would have almost liked the latter better.
Hecatom Posted September 8, 2012 Posted September 8, 2012 (edited) Bitch please, read the whole fucking discussion before jumping on it. Like I already said, the reason why they put Relius and CSEX as a disc is because no one outside a few hand of people bought the dlc chars, the major part of the people were saying stuff like they would wait for the next revision of the game that it would have them anyway, and when the next revision comes, this same people start complaining that relius and csex should be a free patch. There is no argument here, the major part of the fools want the revisions for free, and at the same time they dont want to expend money on DLC chars or Revisions. People bitch about BBCSEX like if its something done because they are a greedy company that want money, no shit sherlock, they are not making games to give them for free, what kind of stupid logic is that? Fighting games are like sport games, they build a foundation and then start growing from it, having periodically revisions or now that the technology allows it, DLC characters and balance patches is something that is expected, and should be done gladly, because it allows for the games to get better. But with the new influx of idiots that we had those last years, we have to deal with backlash for the game companies do what they are expected to do, put a product on the market for those who are interested on it. The worst part, is that we have to deal with a lot of crap of people who has shit on their head that expect that those companies should work for free, and that see releasing new DLC characters/patches or revisions as a bad thing. The market already spoke, the majority see DLC as a bad practice (for whatever stupid reason, and it doesn't help that capcom has done a lot of really moronic stuff, just see what harada is doing with tekken, and their dlc characters, they are taking advantage of the ignorance of the masses and their hate from what capcom did with the dlc chars on sfxt), but at the same time, they are not interested on buying new revisions of the game, because for some idiotic train of thought they believe that is a bitch move. I would have loved to get BBCSEX as a patch and had the option to buy relius as a DLC char, belive me, but i understand (because im not an ignorant fucker) why they weren't able to do that, it would have been a suicide for a businesses point of view Edited September 8, 2012 by Hecatom
mAc Chaos Posted September 8, 2012 Posted September 8, 2012 Heca, not counting people who play the game competitively, because I don't know why they should have a problem, the people who I usually see complaining about the new versions and such are casuals who just look at the game and see the same graphics, no new story and don't understand or care about all the different balance changes because to them it's all the same anyway. So they go "why would I buy the same game twice" and skip out.
Hecatom Posted September 8, 2012 Posted September 8, 2012 (edited) And those are the idiots that i am referring for, well part of them (We have many supposed not casual fg players moaning about this as well here and on srk). Those motherfuckers don't even know what they want, they don't want revisions, and they don't want dlc charcters. So what the fuck a company has to do to please them, or more importantly, why in the flying fuck should they bother on plese them, yes they are the ones that inflate the sales at the begining, but they are also the first to bitch and moan because if a company tries to make a revenue from their products, because god forbid that a company to try to make money, that is something that only greedy bastard do and shit like that. The best part is that those illiterate chimps complaint about fg's in general have sequelities problems, but they are very happy to buy that damn garbage of COD every year, LMAO I come from a video game football soccer competitive scene, and i find funny that we have never had this kind of problems with those games while at the FG's since 2009 has become one of the issues that the casualfags moan every single time. Edited September 8, 2012 by Hecatom
xntrikcat Posted September 8, 2012 Posted September 8, 2012 Ugh... Don't want it? Don't buy it. Isn't that how it works? I mean, if you don't want to buy broccoli at a market, don't complain to broccoli farmers about the crops they be growin' Appropriate analogy? Probably not, but I just had broccoli for lunch and it was delicious, and whoever grew this broccoli can have ALL OF MY MONEY Less derail: When BBCP comes to console, and I want steady streams of DLC. I'm not big on announcers and costumes, but new characters are really hype for measly costs of <$5. Who doesn't like new characters?
mAc Chaos Posted September 8, 2012 Posted September 8, 2012 And those are the idiots that i am referring for, well part of them (We have many supposed not casual fg players moaning about this as well here and on srk). Those motherfuckers don't even know what they want, they don't want revisions, and they don't want dlc charcters. So what the fuck a company has to do to please them, or more importantly, why in the flying fuck should they bother on plese them, yes they are the ones that inflate the sales at the begining, but they are also the first to bitch and moan because if a company tries to make a revenue from their products, because god forbid that a company to try to make money, that is something that only greedy bastard do and shit like that. The best part is that those illiterate chimps complaint about fg's in general have sequelities problems, but they are very happy to buy that damn garbage of COD every year, LMAO I come from a video game football soccer competitive scene, and i find funny that we have never had this kind of problems with those games while at the FG's since 2009 has become one of the issues that the casualfags moan every single time. In the FG sense the feeling I get from a lot of people is that you buy a game once and you shouldn't ever have to buy another version again. For sports games though, people play them to focus on realism, so they're all too happy to have updates that bring in new players and other things like that. At least, that's how it was when I played them with my friends a lot back in the day.
Narroo Posted September 8, 2012 Posted September 8, 2012 Bitch please, read the whole fucking discussion before jumping on it. Like I already said, the reason why they put Relius and CSEX as a disc is because no one outside a few hand of people bought the dlc chars, the major part of the people were saying stuff like they would wait for the next revision of the game that it would have them anyway, and when the next revision comes, this same people start complaining that relius and csex should be a free patch. There is no argument here, the major part of the fools want the revisions for free, and at the same time they dont want to expend money on DLC chars or Revisions. People bitch about BBCSEX like if its something done because they are a greedy company that want money, no shit sherlock, they are not making games to give them for free, what kind of stupid logic is that? Fighting games are like sport games, they build a foundation and then start growing from it, having periodically revisions or now that the technology allows it, DLC characters and balance patches is something that is expected, and should be done gladly, because it allows for the games to get better. But with the new influx of idiots that we had those last years, we have to deal with backlash for the game companies do what they are expected to do, put a product on the market for those who are interested on it. The worst part, is that we have to deal with a lot of crap of people who has shit on their head that expect that those companies should work for free, and that see releasing new DLC characters/patches or revisions as a bad thing. The market already spoke, the majority see DLC as a bad practice (for whatever stupid reason, and it doesn't help that capcom has done a lot of really moronic stuff, just see what harada is doing with tekken, and their dlc characters, they are taking advantage of the ignorance of the masses and their hate from what capcom did with the dlc chars on sfxt), but at the same time, they are not interested on buying new revisions of the game, because for some idiotic train of thought they believe that is a bitch move. I would have loved to get BBCSEX as a patch and had the option to buy relius as a DLC char, belive me, but i understand (because im not an ignorant fucker) why they weren't able to do that, it would have been a suicide for a businesses point of view ...I didn't buy the revision OR the DLC! 7~9 new characters, HERE I COME. OH, YEEESH.
YukiBlue Posted September 8, 2012 Posted September 8, 2012 Why does anyone even care about Retail or DLC? I'm not fucked either way and none of you should be either. /Autocrat.
Vulcan422 Posted September 8, 2012 Posted September 8, 2012 Looking at all these posts bitching about stuff unrelated to CP, this thread really does deserve its original "shitpost" title. DLC + money banter doesn't and shouldn't belong or matter here. It belongs in GameFAQs or Eventhubs.
BladeOfJustice7 Posted September 9, 2012 Posted September 9, 2012 Any info on Bullet's KOF-style projectile, is it full screen, is/was it even useful? How effective is her drive when dealing with zoning? Does she have a reversal?
Rishtopher Posted September 9, 2012 Posted September 9, 2012 Any info on Bullet's KOF-style projectile, is it full screen, is/was it even useful? How effective is her drive when dealing with zoning? Does she have a reversal? What is a KOF-style projectile? Forgive me, I've never played the game. Also, this is kind of random, but do we have info on how much health the new guys have? Or is this information something we only get post-release?
Zeron_X25 Posted September 9, 2012 Posted September 9, 2012 AE was a 12$ upgrade and a 40$ retail. Tell me why CSEX couldn't be like that?
Circuitous Posted September 9, 2012 Posted September 9, 2012 While discussion of DLC/free characters and disc releases/patches is relevant, it's not worth starting fights over. If you can't be civil, don't post. For the rest of you, I dunno, try to be less silly.
BladeOfJustice7 Posted September 9, 2012 Posted September 9, 2012 What is a KOF-style projectile? Forgive me, I've never played the game. Also, this is kind of random, but do we have info on how much health the new guys have? Or is this information something we only get post-release? Google it to see what it looks like (Kyo, Iori, Terry are3 examples) but they're basically somewhat slow moving projectiles that move on the ground as opposed to being in mid air.
Starlight777 Posted September 9, 2012 Posted September 9, 2012 What is a KOF-style projectile? Forgive me, I've never played the game. Also, this is kind of random, but do we have info on how much health the new guys have? Or is this information something we only get post-release? "GROUND FLAME!" Y'know, something like that.
Kyosuke Kagami Posted September 9, 2012 Posted September 9, 2012 (edited) Those supposed KOF style projectiles work the same fucking way as normal projectiles. Only difference is, they move on the ground. It'd be a shock if you had to block them low, but they just standard projectiles. And just in case someone brings this, their speed is also the damn same as an "airbone" projectile. Well, that, except Terry's Power Wave in 96-98, which is more unique. Edited September 9, 2012 by Kyosuke Kagami
Airk Posted September 9, 2012 Posted September 9, 2012 Those supposed KOF style projectiles work the same fucking way as normal projectiles. Only difference is, they move on the ground. It'd be a shock if you had to block them low, but they just standard projectiles. And just in case someone brings this, their speed is also the damn same as an "airbone" projectile. Yeah. All the power wave/reppuken/stuff from KOF is exactly like normal projectiles, only with a different visual. Well, that, except Terry's Power Wave in 96-98, which is more unique. IIRC, it wasn't just the Power Wave during this period - '96 or so was when practically everyone got the weird ghetto projectiles for a while. (The whole Kyokogenryu group got Dan-style short fireballs). Having a "normal' projectile was the exception in KOF during that time.
Mightfo Posted September 9, 2012 Posted September 9, 2012 Yeah. All the power wave/reppuken/stuff from KOF is exactly like normal projectiles, only with a different visual. "exactly"? except they're also lower to the ground. in kof that means you could hop over them easily(but you also cant go under them with a normal that lowers your hitbox or certain runs) in bb this would mean jumping over bullet's projectile would be obviously even easier than over others, but charas wouldnt be able to do things like slide under it(makoto and noel 3c, for example)
Kyosuke Kagami Posted September 9, 2012 Posted September 9, 2012 Only noobs and northamericans hop over projectiles in KOF Also what you say isn't entirely true. Been playing KOF for ages, and hoping over shit like Psycho Ballz, Hishoukens or even Hurricane Uppers is too common. You have to time your short jumps, but it's possible.
Mightfo Posted September 9, 2012 Posted September 9, 2012 Only noobs and northamericans hop over projectiles in KOF Also what you say isn't entirely true. Been playing KOF for ages, and hoping over shit like Psycho Ballz, Hishoukens or even Hurricane Uppers is too common. You have to time your short jumps, but it's possible. Oh yeah, I know. You just have a better window and it depends slightly on projectile itself and stuff.
destruction_adv Posted September 9, 2012 Posted September 9, 2012 While we're on the subject of Bullet's projectile, I haven't actually seen it yet, which video is it in?
Rishtopher Posted September 9, 2012 Posted September 9, 2012 Google it to see what it looks like (Kyo, Iori, Terry are3 examples) but they're basically somewhat slow moving projectiles that move on the ground as opposed to being in mid air. Thanks Blade and Starlight for the explanation :P Those supposed KOF style projectiles work the same fucking way as normal projectiles. Only difference is, they move on the ground. It'd be a shock if you had to block them low, but they just standard projectiles. And just in case someone brings this, their speed is also the damn same as an "airbone" projectile. Yukiko's projectile hits low though right? I forget the name, but it moves along the ground. Why would it be shocking to have that in BB for Bullet?
SolxBaiken Posted September 9, 2012 Posted September 9, 2012 Yukiko's projectile hits low though right? I forget the name, but it moves along the ground. Why would it be shocking to have that in BB for Bullet? The hit properties of P4U were mad annoying to me... If Bullet had a grounded projectile that hit low it would give her a better mixup game, if it hits high then meh, it wouldn't be anything too special (although I guess if you can make the opponent desperate enough to jump over it you can try for AUB setups?)
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