Most balanced Guilty Gear game?

[purify]

Well...depends on what you call "balanced", but this is how I see it. Slash was considered a "boring" game by many, as the crazy ridiculous loops and combos from #R were missing (but not all of them). The game was simpler, and the simpler characters were better. The top tier wasn't as overpowering as AC's top tier, but the bottom tier in AC is better than the bottom tier in Slash and technical ability/hard characters are more rewarding again. AC is also considered a more fun game since the craziness is back, and the "broken" stuff generally at least requires tension.

[Wind Owl]

I hope that Blaz Blue can come even close to what AC has achieved balance-wise.

I predict that BlazBlue will be highly unbalanced because everything is entirely new (hopefully; we already have Ky, Sol, and Pot but shrug). Guilty Gear took many generations to become as balanced as it is. I'm aware that the same people are making BB, so they won't be stumbling in the dark, but there will be many things that players discover to disrupt (to some extent) the intended balance.

[Adelheid]

Sure, there's lots of new things... But at the same time, it's still ArcSys. They have all the benefit of all the experience gained from the work on Guilty Gear. So, I don't see why it wouldn't be balanced.

[4r5]

I see no Eddie clone. I think we're in the clear.

[Mulligan]

There was also mention in Elvenshadow's blog that BB will take over GG's spot in SBO next year. If this happens where do you think the game will go? I have a lot of doubt that they would do that though.

[Hellmonkey]

Nobody knows until BB is released, at least. Pointless speculating until then.

[Xeno]

I see no Eddie clone. I think we're in the clear.

He's the last character you unlock .

I hope they keep some sort of Romantic Cancel system.. sure it makes GG harder to "balance" but it's fricken awesome. Maybe if they designed combos in mind so that the best possible gatling only does 20% with no links.. and with RCing etc nothing more then 40% damage?

I've seen combos in vids that do 60/70/80% of health.. that's just ridiculous imo . Mainly because it's .. hit, confirm >> rape. Using burst is kind of limited to escape.

Has anyone played Melee? The DI system they use is very, very cool. You can "escape" combos with awesome reflexes by inputting directions during the hitstun.. the tricky part is -- if you knew you were going to get hit you'd have done something to avoid it.. so you have to get hit and smash DI within 4F or w/e.. OR just be psychic about it . But someone who either knows or can follow your "escape" can still follow up the initiative in many cases, even though they might not be able to do *as much* damage.

I am intrigued by Death Combos, but when the starting move of a Death Combo is not anything special (the way activating IK mode is very risky), it seems kind of lame.

[Hideki]

I've seen combos in vids that do 60/70/80% of health.. that's just ridiculous imo .

Ridiculous is the 90-100% combos in Accent Core, how Eddie stuns your ass after one combo, the stupid ammount of damage you can deal in less than 8 hits (Slayer, Jam, Potemkin)...

Stop complaining, the game hasn't been even released in the japanese arcades.

There was also mention in Elvenshadow's blog that BB will take over GG's spot in SBO next year. If this happens where do you think the game will go? I have a lot of doubt that they would do that though.

Most of the new decent fighting games get a spot in the SBO the year they're released. The hard part is to stay in that spot for several years.

If BB is as good as it looks in vids, it will probably steal the regular place in SBO to Arcana Heart, or maybe Melty Blood.

[ghost333]

have u seen the dmg that slayer does? 100% cant even describe it......

[iora]

game that condenses 23 GG characters into a 10 person cast says wut?

[TGS]

Regarding the cast: You guys are lucky you didn't have to experience MvC2 back then... If you took the current mentality regarding balance and applied it to MvC2, you'd be bitching to no end... (hello, 4 useable characters and 3 useable assists out of 56 characters total...) Regarding the damage: You guys are lucky you didn't have to experience ST back then... If you took the current mentality regarding damage and applied it to ST, you'd be bitching to no end... (helllo, simple 3-4 hit jump in combo doing 50-60% into dizzy...)

[MrWall]

Regarding the cast: You guys are lucky you didn't have to experience MvC2 back then... If you took the current mentality regarding balance and applied it to MvC2, you'd be bitching to no end... (hello, 4 useable characters and 3 useable assists out of 56 characters total...)

Regarding the damage: You guys are lucky you didn't have to experience ST back then... If you took the current mentality regarding damage and applied it to ST, you'd be bitching to no end... (helllo, simple 3-4 hit jump in combo doing 50-60% into dizzy...)

Quoted for truth.

[Arvoyea]

I see no Eddie clone. I think we're in the clear.

I laughed for some reason when I read this. Maybe because Eddie became top tier in AC's tier list? But then again, Zat- I mean Eddie can do massive damage in AC, along with Slayer and Potemkin. I think it's weird that Slash is considered more balanced, whereas AC is more fun and not boring.

[Hideki]

MvsC2 was made only for tier whoring, and to feed the american arcade drama. Thank god that game is not succesful in Japan... I had enough last year watching two random Kulas bitchin j.HP for life in the KoF SBO finals.

[bbq sauce]

word to TGS.

MvsC2 was made only for tier whoring, and to feed the american arcade drama.

Thank god that game is not succesful in Japan... I had enough last year watching two random Kulas bitchin j.HP for life in the KoF SBO finals.

it was played in Japan, it Mitsu was one of the top Marvel players of the tearlier days.. and it wasn't made to be broken, it just came out that way.

[fabiano]

There was also mention in Elvenshadow's blog that BB will take over GG's spot in SBO next year. If this happens where do you think the game will go? I have a lot of doubt that they would do that though.

I hope it won't, elsewhere say goodbye to the exitement of 3vs3 events. I don't think 3V3 in a ten characters game will do.

[Hellmonkey]

3v3 in a 6 character game is STILL being held though? GENEIJIN

[bbq sauce]

3v3 in a 6 character game is STILL being held though? GENEIJIN

i'd give 3S more like 8 or 9.. Yun, Chun, Ken, Mak, Uriend, Duds, Yang, Akuma, MAYBE Oro.. either way it's still under 10 so the point still remains.. lol

/POINTLESS POST

[A3Religion]

AC is by far the most balanced of the bunch for so many reasons, but the most important reason being that the bottom of the tier list I find more often than many times wins a lot of the fights against the Higher Tier characters. In Slash, Robo-Ky, Hos, and Dizzy barely couldn't come close to even scratching Ky or Anji. As in Reload where I think I honestly Never saw a Chipp player EVER win a tournament or much so as a fight against a Jam or Slayer.

[Xeno]

A3, what do you think about Eddie's huge combos/unblockables in AC? Thanks for the info about Slash (I only have #R).

[Hideki]

A3, what do you think about Eddie's huge combos/unblockables in AC?

If you can zone Eddie properly, once he gets hit, you score two mid-big combos and he's gone.

He has no upper or a good wake up move, if you can r aed his dead angles and bursts, once he's in the corner, you can pretty much destroy him really fast.

[EasyModeNub]

AC is hands down more balanced that the rest. X and XX are just retarded so lets not even talk about that. #R Eddie wasn't a character, he was a fucking SNK boss. He was pretty much better than everybody at everything so fuck him. lol Slayer was retarded too. For all effective purposes, he had no hitbox... so that combined with insane dmg and easy stuns was just too much. Slash had a pretty big tier difference, but people for some reason think that the top tier in that one wasn't as bad as AC. Ky was worse than Slayer and Pot are now, but not as bad as Eddie and Testament. SO... I guess the top tier being more balanced is half true, although the tier difference is huge. All in all though, AC is one of the most balanced fighting games being played competitively. Everybody has a chance. Example of other games. MvC2 - Mag/Storm or Sent/S tier assist, or gtfo 3S - Yun, Chun, Ken, Makoto, Dudley... you can say Urien (who is mid tier), but I only know 1 other person in Texas besides me that plays him... there are random Gouki also... HnK - LAWL SSBB - More lulz CvS2 - A Blanka/Dictator/Claw for the easy wins ST - This game is just bullshit So I'm really happy with the balance in this game, especially when you compare to the amazing job capcom and others have done

[Hellmonkey]

I dont' know what you mean by Eddie and Testament being "worse" than Ky in slash. Yes, they have more broken bullshit, but EVERYONE else in the game is way better. The difference between Eddie/Testament and Bridget/I-no/Johnny compared to the difference between slash Ky vs slash Robo/hos/Dizzy etc shows how much more unbalanced slash was imo... watching a good low-tier player in AC rape an eddie or testament is not that out of place, watching bottom tier in slash take out ky or sol was extremely rare.

[EasyModeNub]

I see your point there, Ky and Sol really were alot more dominating that any of the AC top tier not that I really think about it. People complain about Eddie/Testament/Slayer/Pot, but they really are nothing compared to the past versions... testament is still a scrub pos though

[GreasyGyro718]

hey I'm just curious, what DID happen in the XX days. I wanna know the broken goods.