should i play BBCSE while waiting for BBCP

[the00monkey]

hey how are you all i am new here so if this is wrong forum, i apologize

i was wondering if i should pick up BBCSE again while i wait for BBCP, please reply

[Skye]

Hi welcome to DustLoop. Hope you have an enjoyable and educationally adequate experience here.

First off, yes, this is the wrong sub-forum to ask such a question. This place is for artwork and music. The proper place to discuss BB on a general sense would be the BlazBlue general sub-forum. A moderator with the proper credentials will soon move this thread to its proper place, so please don't remake this thread.

Second, it truly is up to you to continue playing CSE, I would say yes, just so you stay in practice with your character unless your character has changed that drastically or your character is new to the roster. Otherwise, continue to have fun at your discretion.

[Tong]

Even BBCT is fine if you're a complete beginner... But yeah, pick EX.

[Airk]

Yes; CP is at MINIMUM 5 months away.

Buy Extend in the meantime, it's cheap.

[Sanity]

Recommended. Even if you plan to pick up one of the new characters, you can still use EX to train and get used to the game.

[YukiBlue]

Just echoing the previous posts. Extend will teach you a lot of what you will need to know in CP. You're more or less getting a head start over people that are waiting for BBCP.

[Star-Demon]

Which people, though?

I'd caution against this for my own reasons:

I personally don't believe in the head start by playing a previous version. There's simply too much going on version-to-version that will mess with your expectations, and you can seriously spoil your own ideas and game by trying to learn on a version that's on its way out. You still have to learn that game, up and down, when you get it. There's nothing that gets around this. CP is the game you have to learn and play in. Not Extend.

I thought like the OP and others when I picked up CT then cheap CS2 for extend. It only disserviced me when I should have focused on learning everything I could about extend. CT and CS2 only gave me bad habits in preparation for extend.

Unless the comparison you're making applies to people that have never played BlazBlue. Otherwise - IMO - you're only setting yourself up for an uphill battle by learning the wrong *game*.

If you're going to play extend in preparation for CP - You'll need to accept the fact you'll have to dispose of that knowledge and physical habit in order to focus on a game that you need to focus on. CP is not going to be an easier game.

Unless, ofc, you really are a super beginner - in that case go ham on extend.

[Celerity]

Which people, though?

I'd caution against this for my own reasons:

I personally don't believe in the head start by playing a previous version. There's simply too much going on version-to-version that will mess with your expectations, and you can seriously spoil your own ideas and game by trying to learn on a version that's on its way out. You still have to learn that game, up and down, when you get it. There's nothing that gets around this. CP is the game you have to learn and play in. Not Extend.

I thought like the OP and others when I picked up CT then cheap CS2 for extend. It only disserviced me when I should have focused on learning everything I could about extend. CT and CS2 only gave me bad habits in preparation for extend.

Unless the comparison you're making applies to people that have never played BlazBlue. Otherwise - IMO - you're only setting yourself up for an uphill battle by learning the wrong *game*.

If you're going to play extend in preparation for CP - You'll need to accept the fact you'll have to dispose of that knowledge and physical habit in order to focus on a game that you need to focus on. CP is not going to be an easier game.

Unless, ofc, you really are a super beginner - in that case go ham on extend.

Fighting game experience carries between different games, so it's crazy to suggest that it wouldn't carry between different versions of the same game. Are you trying to say that somebody who has played BlazBlue for 4 years is at a disadvantage vs someone who has never touched BlazBlue until CP, because they've been training in "the wrong game"? Of course not. You get better at fighting games by playing fighting games.

[Airk]

Fighting game experience carries between different games, so it's crazy to suggest that it wouldn't carry between different versions of the same game. Are you trying to say that somebody who has played BlazBlue for 4 years is at a disadvantage vs someone who has never touched BlazBlue until CP, because they've been training in "the wrong game"? Of course not. You get better at fighting games by playing fighting games.

Yeah; It's absurd to suggest that someone who has been playing since CT won't have an advantage over someone who just picks up CP when it comes out.

And more specifically, you get better at BlazBlue by playing Blazblue, because no other game has the same mechanics; Some are closer than others, but they're all unique. And even moreso, you learn a character by playing that character, and I'm sorry, even if they completely changed all your combo paths in CP (Which they didn't. For anyone. Since that would require rejiggering everyone's gatlings completely and would be stupid) you STILL learn a LOT by playing that character in any other version of the game. Most specifically, your sense of spacing and how far your attacks reach, and your ability to hitconfirm will carry over.

Don't sit around twiddling your thumbs for the next 5 months.

[Skye]

Judging by the context, Star was talking exclusively about combos. It's the AFGC's worst kept secret that there are tons more to any FG (except maybe killer instinct lul) than combos. By picking up CSE now, you can learn the mechanics and controls, any given characters movement and spacing and more.

Regardless of what you have to relearn for CP, you'll have a far easier time adjusting what you already know than learning from scratch.

[Moy_X7]

I'm with Airk and everyone else who supports the idea of playing CSE in preparation for CP.

Everything that you learn from CSE will carry over to CP. How your normals and specials work and when and where to use them, how to properly pressure your opponents, how to play the neutral game, hit-confirming, reacting to certain things, knowing your opposing character's gameplan, etc. Sure, two or three of you character's moves might have been altered and you'll need to use them slightly differently now but other than that and the new, simpler combo paths, that's pretty much all that changes. Well that and the new Overdrive system which boils down to learning new combos.

The main thing that changes from game to game are the combos but since you'll already know how your moves work and flow in a combo, it won't be that hard to master those new combos. Other than that, your and your opponents' specific character gameplan remains mostly the same, you just get some new tools and a few altered tools to work with.

Edited May 17, 2013 by Moy_X7

[LeDom]

Yes, unless you're willing to wait half a year for Chronophantasma to come out. You'll at least learn basic combos and get an idea of how every character plays, so when CP will come out you'll only have 6 characters to learn.

Plus, if you wanna get into the story, BBCSEX is the perfect game to get.

[DerQ]

I had and still have the same issue with BB since my character isn't in this version nor did I want to invest myself into something that'll go away and all feels worthless. I was wrong.

BB has a lot of specific stuff that you can get used to and that would carry over in another BB title. I'm a BBCSEX noob, but even if I just played BB slightly without overcommiting, I'm already aware that Air Barrier blocking, techs and rolls, Throw reject miss, probably more are part of BB and will remain a part of BB. Just playing for fun and becoming aware of these could help you focusing on other things when the new game's here. It's win-win, you don't have to bother learning 2 games in details and you get to play rather than wait 5 months. Plus, Ragna takes barely any effort to get started with if you just want to grasp what BB feels like.

If you just play lightly, you won't have to bother learning what specifics define BBCSEX and you may even choose to apply a certain filter for these so you can just stop bothering. Stuff like combo optimization, the guard primer system, gold bursts, etc. etc.

[Narroo]

I had and still have the same issue with BB since my character isn't in this version nor did I want to invest myself into something that'll go away and all feels worthless. I was wrong.

BB has a lot of specific stuff that you can get used to and that would carry over in another BB title. I'm a BBCSEX noob, but even if I just played BB slightly without overcommiting, I'm already aware that Air Barrier blocking, techs and rolls, Throw reject miss, probably more are part of BB and will remain a part of BB. Just playing for fun and becoming aware of these could help you focusing on other things when the new game's here. It's win-win, you don't have to bother learning 2 games in details and you get to play rather than wait 5 months. Plus, Ragna takes barely any effort to get started with if you just want to grasp what BB feels like.

If you just play lightly, you won't have to bother learning what specifics define BBCSEX and you may even choose to apply a certain filter for these so you can just stop bothering. Stuff like combo optimization, the guard primer system, gold bursts, etc. etc.

You mean Lambda? Well, I suppose they reworked Nu quite a bit, but I think it'll still carry over.

[dioxideUniversa]

BBCP comes out in just under 5 months in -japan-, there is no telling when we will have it (or if this is a euro poster, which could mean an even longer wait.) if you're wanting to play the game, there's not much sense in waiting.

[StayFree( ' 3')]

...I agree with everyone except star.

[Jyosua]

Don't buy into "Everyone's on equal footing with each new game iteration". It's bullshit. The more experienced players will excel, namely because the basics are approximately the same between the games. Not to mention that you only develop good fundamentals by playing fighting games.

So if you want a head start? Play BBCSE. You might not like it as much and may need to readjust to a lot in the new game (CP), but readjusting is a LOT easier than learning everything from scratch.