LuciferD666 Posted November 21, 2013 Posted November 21, 2013 My best guess, based on the silhouette. A kid (?) in a bed that's been outfitted with some killer robot appendages. Yeah. I can envision that honestly.That draw-over almost fits too nicely also(or it's just me).Hmmm..... Well we'll see soon nonetheless.
ElvenShadow Posted November 21, 2013 Posted November 21, 2013 Suzaku's drawing is pretty close to what I was seeing in my mind. I will definitely be at this loketest just like the other ones to bring the hype in real time!
SoWL Posted November 21, 2013 Posted November 21, 2013 I should quit trying to make sense of that silhouette. It's starting to give me a headache lol. I mean seriously what even is that supposed to be? This character may actually beat Faust in the WTF department. You take that back, sir. My random theories concerning the new char: - That Man (nah, he's never going to be playable) - Crow (he was introduced in a game where Daisuke had little to no involvement, so not likely?) - Dr. Paradigm (why would he leave his glass ball?) - A.B.A.'s "father" (we don't know anything of him, so why not?) - Robo-Ky (would they make a mystery reveal out of a veteran character?) - Valentine clone (again, way too different from her silhouette) Since we now have a Zato1 reanimation to explain, I'm going with the "A.B.A.'s father" theory, but I don't expect it to be true. And that picture gives me strong Pokey Minch vibes.
Narroo Posted November 21, 2013 Posted November 21, 2013 Zato-1 eh? This is annoying me since it's taunting me with something I know will never happen, but always wanted to. I'm sick of random evil black beasts in video games, tragic or not, and so I've always wanted to see Eddie have real character development and turn into a positive character. I figured it would be neat if he, using his memories, pretended to be Zato-1 in order to give Millia and Venom some closure. Now, I know this will never actually happen, so I'm a bit annoyed because it's so close, yet so far....
shinr Posted November 21, 2013 Posted November 21, 2013 Besides the other possible characters already mentioned, the only other known and named cripple in GG is Marina from the Lightning the Argent novel, and the last we heard of her is that she and her artificial command-gear sister Solaria are under the Police's protection, which doesn't sounds that safe anymore considering how Ky got "promoted" to royalty.
Phrekwenci Posted November 21, 2013 Posted November 21, 2013 There's no way it's a character we always expect in the Guilty Gear fight game series. They've revealed all of the regular characters that we've had in the games will full pictures and moves, no secret silhouettes. It's not Zappa, Robo-Ky, Bridget or anyone else you know. It's definitely a new character to the fighting game angle (I can't speak much for any other part of the series). And the kid on the bed idea looks pretty good to me (and ridiculous enough for Guilty Gear).
Luminos564 Posted November 21, 2013 Posted November 21, 2013 Oh, and his new dragon move (623H) with Eddie out is probably some sort of throw. The command list indicates "with Eddie summoned, close to your opponent". Well for what it's worth, Eddie did have a DP grab before called "Damned Fang" though it was performed by 623S and didn't require you to have mini-Eddie out in order to do it. It was the move where he enshrouds the opponent into a shadow ball and he then "stabs" it with his hand causing massive bleeding.
ElvenShadow Posted November 21, 2013 Posted November 21, 2013 (edited) Well for what it's worth, Eddie did have a DP grab before called "Damned Fang" though it was performed by 623S and didn't require you to have mini-Eddie out in order to do it. It was the move where he enshrouds the opponent into a shadow ball and he then "stabs" it with his hand causing massive bleeding. He has that in this game too so it seems like he will have the ability so summon little eddie anywhere a drill just dissapeared and also can command throw from little eddie... LOL.... if he is as strong as reload eddie as a base with these new tools in addition (oh and a new super too) I believe we all have our work cut out for us... unless we pick Zato... (of course this is all speculation) Edited November 21, 2013 by ElvenShadow
RoBoBOBR Posted November 21, 2013 Posted November 21, 2013 "Faust (aka Dr. Baldhead) was once renowned as an amazing physician. People would come from far and wide to be cured by him. But one day, a young girl died during operation." New chara = that girl.
4r5 Posted November 21, 2013 Posted November 21, 2013 Oh, maybe they doing what they should of done from the start. Little Eddie is all mids, but with a command throw. That would fit in to GG's defensive system, instead of being "Hope you have a burst"
dehumanizer Posted November 21, 2013 Posted November 21, 2013 Zato... Zato sama, is that really you?.... I want to believe. Looks like the beast has awoken :bad:
fiendmaw Posted November 21, 2013 Posted November 21, 2013 Oh, maybe they doing what they should of done from the start. Little Eddie is all mids, but with a command throw. That would fit in to GG's defensive system, instead of being "Hope you have a burst" I agree,they can make him unique and effective without relying on unblockables.
SoWL Posted November 21, 2013 Posted November 21, 2013 This is a bit off-topic, but can we get a link to the game's website in the news thread? Kinda weird to have it missing for so long, but have a link to the GG JP arcade website
Destin Posted November 21, 2013 Posted November 21, 2013 He has that in this game too so it seems like he will have the ability so summon little eddie anywhere a drill just dissapeared and also can command throw from little eddie... LOL.... if he is as strong as reload eddie as a base with these new tools in addition (oh and a new super too) I believe we all have our work cut out for us... unless we pick Zato... (of course this is all speculation) Alot of #R eddies power came from working that guard bar with little Eddie, and unblockable loops. Since the discovery of blockin the unblockables though, I don't think reload Eddie would have been as dangerous. Slayer though...
fiendmaw Posted November 21, 2013 Posted November 21, 2013 Alot of #R eddies power came from working that guard bar with little Eddie, and unblockable loops. Since the discovery of blockin the unblockables though, I don't think reload Eddie would have been as dangerous. Slayer though... How did you block the unblockables?
LionHeartx Posted November 21, 2013 Posted November 21, 2013 Hoping we get more reveals before the loketest since all this theorizing on the new character is just giving me a big headache lol
Chrome Homura Posted November 21, 2013 Posted November 21, 2013 How did you block the unblockables? I also find this topic to be of interest.
Delrian Posted November 21, 2013 Posted November 21, 2013 How did you block the unblockables? With your face.
Henaki Posted November 21, 2013 Posted November 21, 2013 I also find this topic to be of interest. If a high and a low hit you on the same frame, the normal attack prioritized first, so the second frame the projectile would hit. So you block the way Zato attacks, then immediately switch to the way Eddie attacks. So if Zato does an overhead and Eddie does a low at the same time, you block high->~low asap. It's pretty hard to do...
STenSatsu Posted November 21, 2013 Posted November 21, 2013 How did you block the unblockables? Technically no unblockable setups in GG. You just have to switch guards within 1 frame and correctly guess whether high or low is coming first. IIRC physical attacks get priority over projectiles in the instance of same-frame contact. So if Eddie fish+5k on the same frame you would block low then high within 1 frame. This is just going off memory though so it might be inaccurate. Really happy they showed a character that doesn't look like it will be anyone from the fighting game portion of the series. Nice to confirm it's not all old hats.
SuperJ Posted November 21, 2013 Posted November 21, 2013 to prove the above statements in 2 minutes: go to training mode and play johnny vs. aba. do 2D(1) xx upcoin. if you don't do anything else, the coin hits but if you meaty aba (3H), the coin whiffs! what happened to loketest guy? if he still hasn't gotten new equipment and is getting a 60fps camera i'd love to chip in
shtkn Posted November 22, 2013 Posted November 22, 2013 his donation link is buiried deep in this thread http://www.dustloop.com/forums/showthread.php?16395-Xrd-News-%28Theoretical%29-Gameplay-Discussion&p=1567288&viewfull=1#post1567288 wow that very nice, h0mebas3 ask me to do a paypal page too, so i made one http://kakkoii.fr/ (i will put more details tomorrow its almost 5am in japan right now...) As I thought the FGC are great. according to his page, he's at $90
shtkn Posted November 22, 2013 Posted November 22, 2013 If a high and a low hit you on the same frame, the normal attack prioritized first, so the second frame the projectile would hit. So you block the way Zato attacks, then immediately switch to the way Eddie attacks. So if Zato does an overhead and Eddie does a low at the same time, you block high->~low asap. It's pretty hard to do... thanks for reminding me that this isn't mentioned in the wiki, adding it in. also, i don't know what happens when two projectiles would hit (eg, eddie does an overhead and zato does drill). edit: let's take this to the +R thread instead, don't want this thread to get too sidetracked
KBnova Posted November 22, 2013 Posted November 22, 2013 My best guess, based on the silhouette. A kid (?) in a bed that's been outfitted with some killer robot appendages. Edit: Also, I've updated the news thread with Zato's profile, movelist, etc. Actually since its a bed those two identical shapes might be blankets as legs. Also in the trailer he mentioned about dealing with some brat.
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