youcanwonder Posted May 2, 2014 Posted May 2, 2014 It's kinda hard for me to imagine what baiken will be like in xrd from a combo perspective without j.d or tatami frc. in reload you could do her dust combos wo using frc's. ..so who knows...and that's to say if she even makes it in xrd lol
Destin Posted May 2, 2014 Posted May 2, 2014 Baiken counter YRC before the hit would be way too good. I would poke, block to avoid the counter, then she would YRC throw. ... Unless it really is as slow as Teyah implies. I really hope if dizzy makes it in, she doesn't get fish yrc. That would be way too good. Ice spike and Spear would be okish, but fish would be too much imo. Other than that she would likely transition into the game well.
chun_li1 Posted May 2, 2014 Posted May 2, 2014 But w/ YRC, Fish summons would be like old #R summons, but with meter.
shinquickman Posted May 2, 2014 Posted May 2, 2014 New Arcadia tier list is up at shoryuken: http://shoryuken.com/2014/05/02/whos-top-tier-check-out-the-latest-character-rankings-from-arcadia-for-super-street-fighter-iv-arcade-edition-ver-2012-guilty-gear-xrd-sign-persona-4-the-ultimax-ultra-suplex-hold-and-more/ The list for those who don't want to go there GUILTY GEAR Xrd -SIGN- Ver.1.01 In no particular order within same rank. S Zato-1, FaustA Ky, Sol, Chipp, Millia, MayB All other charactersC Potemkin Ogawa’s Tentative Ver.1.02 Ranking In no particular order within same rank. S Zato-1, Chipp, FaustA Ky, Sol, Millia, May, Ramlethal (predicted)B All other characters --- I agree with the Zato-1/Faust ranking from my vid watching experiences. I'm a little surprised not to see Axl at A-tier, though. Do most characters have good answers vs. the Lame Flame Chains?
Jocelot Posted May 2, 2014 Posted May 2, 2014 I'm more surprised to see Ramlethal inA tier. But Ogawa's a knowledgeable guy so who knows.
destruction_adv Posted May 2, 2014 Posted May 2, 2014 I'm more surprised to see Ramlethal inA tier. But Ogawa's a knowledgeable guy so who knows. This is what I'm thinking too. She doesn't seem all that good to me, but what do I know, less than Ogawa that's for sure.
D.R.F. Posted May 2, 2014 Posted May 2, 2014 New Arcadia tier list is up at shoryuken: http://shoryuken.com/2014/05/02/whos-top-tier-check-out-the-latest-character-rankings-from-arcadia-for-super-street-fighter-iv-arcade-edition-ver-2012-guilty-gear-xrd-sign-persona-4-the-ultimax-ultra-suplex-hold-and-more/ The list for those who don't want to go thereGUILTY GEAR Xrd -SIGN- Ver.1.01In no particular order within same rank.S Zato-1, FaustA Ky, Sol, Chipp, Millia, MayB All other charactersC PotemkinOgawa’s Tentative Ver.1.02 RankingIn no particular order within same rank.S Zato-1, Chipp, FaustA Ky, Sol, Millia, May, Ramlethal (predicted)B All other characters --- I agree with the Zato-1/Faust ranking from my vid watching experiences. I'm a little surprised not to see Axl at A-tier, though. Do most characters have good answers vs. the Lame Flame Chains? Im pretty sure that the stance chains are easy to interrupt. Especially since the chains have hurt boxes themselves it looks like
D.R.F. Posted May 2, 2014 Posted May 2, 2014 I personally think that i-no or venom are better than may, but the changes in xrd seem to have made her a weaker character mix up wise. I haven't played it, however, and Ogawas tier list seems pretty balanced anyway
shinquickman Posted May 2, 2014 Posted May 2, 2014 Im pretty sure that the stance chains are easy to interrupt. Especially since the chains have hurt boxes themselves it looks like From full screen, stance chains are anything but easy to disrupt. And yes, the chain is vulnerable from its starting point to somewhere past half its reach, and all characters have answers to it, but few characters can touch it without risking getting womped for 30%. Against the chains, I think Ky, Faust, Millia, and Chipp have the best tools, I-No, Ramlethal, and Venom have decent options, but everyone else struggle pretty hard.
BladeOfJustice7 Posted May 2, 2014 Posted May 2, 2014 How do Chipp and Milia have options against Axl's chain stance?
D.R.F. Posted May 2, 2014 Posted May 2, 2014 How do Chipp and Milia have options against Axl's chain stance? They both have projectiles, and they are very mobile, thats one
BladeOfJustice7 Posted May 2, 2014 Posted May 2, 2014 I never found mobility to be useful against his stance chains honestly, they seem to be really strong at controlling space from what I've seen. Any videos to show me otherwise?
Skyheartxia Posted May 2, 2014 Posted May 2, 2014 From full screen, stance chains are anything but easy to disrupt. And yes, the chain is vulnerable from its starting point to somewhere past half its reach, and all characters have answers to it, but few characters can touch it without risking getting womped for 30%. Against the chains, I think Ky, Faust, Millia, and Chipp have the best tools, I-No, Ramlethal, and Venom have decent options, but everyone else struggle pretty hard. Bedman can TK teleport ball or sj float task C. but its careful timings on stance chain whiff
greatfernman Posted May 2, 2014 Posted May 2, 2014 How do Chipp and Milia have options against Axl's chain stance? I'd think Chipp could just teleport in. idk what Millia can do though, tandem top? hair pin? both seem bad. I imagine if for some reason secret garden was already out that would be great, but the startup is way too long to throw it out in response to the stance. Can the chains be low profiled or are they too close to the ground? Bedman can TK teleport ball or sj float task C. but its careful timings on stance chain whiff Yeah I was actually wondering about that, If Bedman's teleport ball hit Axl's stance chain, does Bedman teleport to where the ball was hit or does he teleport to Axl? Or does he not teleport at all. also, what if his teleport ball hits a projectile like stun edge or i-no's note, does he just not teleport?
D.R.F. Posted May 2, 2014 Posted May 2, 2014 Any videos to show me otherwise? Unfortunately I have not, simply brainstorming. I have never seen them in this predicament either, though
shinquickman Posted May 2, 2014 Posted May 2, 2014 How do Chipp and Milia have options against Axl's chain stance? Chipp's teleport H puts him right above the chain stance blind spot. Millia has SJ double airdash and SJ hairpin. Bedman can TK teleport ball or sj float task C. but its careful timings on stance chain whiff I don't think the Teleport ball goes at a steep enough angle to truly abuse the stance chains at far range, IMO.
Skyheartxia Posted May 2, 2014 Posted May 2, 2014 Yeah I was actually wondering about that, If Bedman's teleport ball hit Axl's stance chain, does Bedman teleport to where the ball was hit or does he teleport to Axl? Or does he not teleport at all. also, what if his teleport ball hits a projectile like stun edge or i-no's note, does he just not teleport? im not too sure, i would think ball would get eaten and youd just get a seal. projectile to projectile clash is no teleport, just get a seal. I don't think the Teleport ball goes at a steep enough angle to truly abuse the stance chains at far range, IMO. you're more than likely right, i am probably recalling wrong. probably was above TK height.
Jakestation Posted May 3, 2014 Posted May 3, 2014 http://www.twitch.tv/joniosan Its actually up, Elvenshadows team just played.
Antitidus Posted May 3, 2014 Posted May 3, 2014 Johhny j.236S YRC would be fun. But imagine Bacchus Sigh YRC!
Clousephinat Posted May 3, 2014 Posted May 3, 2014 I think Bridget with YRC could be really fun, and some mixups with Zappa as well.
NesmerII Posted May 4, 2014 Posted May 4, 2014 Well, I just watched the Roi vs Fab best out of five "final" match. Goddamn. That hurt. Roi was freaking on fire (like holy sh!t), but man I hate seeing FAB lose, though he freaking tore Roi up in the second match. I'm not one to "seriously" complain about balance and all that, but when Sol can do 2-3 Fafnir's IN A ROW and still be in range while Pot gets pushed out after like 3-4 BnB hits, then I get salty. And then you have the fact that Sol can actually capitalize off Fafnir's tumble-effect, while Pot's 6H just blasts the other guy out of his range. That said... GODDAMN THAT WAS ENTERTAINING. First pro match I've ever caught live and it was so hype.
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