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I have inherited the mantle of Thouzer. With the force of Nyeh and the constant support of stream monsters, none shall be safe. No player can overcome the power that I now wield!

I play The Holy Thouzer. Does that count?

I only did it one time, though!

I agree with the comment on j.B. To use it effectively, you really have to learn angles. Angles that will allow you to deal with different approaches while keeping you out of danger. Also, don't get me started on 2AB in neutral. At NEC in casuals, Bace hit me with 2AB AA at round start and I died. This was pretty hilarious. Everyone froze wondering what the heck had happened. *cough* Anyways...2AB is a pretty good anti-air if you can use it properly. Leads to a lot of meterless damage and a midscreen corner carry. It's also good for playing footsies as you can score a knockdown when people least expect it by using it at max range. 5C is...kind of weird. It can be either really good or lead to your unfortunate demise at any given point in a match. I really don't know what to say about it outside of making sure to use it sparingly, even in the corner. Funny that I forgot about throw even though I go for it off of 2B OMC (I'm silly). Stagger pressure does indeed look really nice in P4U2. I hope we can see more with it soon (if JP Liz players can start doing stagger pressure ). . After some of the things Okusan said on twitter, I wouldn't be surprised if he plays Liz a lot still, even if he focuses on Showboat . She's basically his waifu. I think we can depend on Damosu for the most part, though. The waiting game is fun, isn't it?

Apparently, you have been living a lie. I'm sorry to wake you up from your dream With the rate at which Liz builds SP, I don't think she needs another overhead. 2B > OMC 50/50 is already something that the rest of the cast doesn't have (Narukami has something similar in some situations). With her pressure being improved, this'll probably be even more of a threat.

I caught the joke Anyways, like you pointed out, j.B all day isn't neutral. That's something I had to learn about 2 months ago. I feel like more of you should try talking to Bace...well, the ones that don't already do so. I literally talk to Bace for hours about stuff that has nothing to do with Persona, but he helps me when we get on the subject. Back to Liz's neutral game. 5C dash cancel will probably take another month before it starts showing it's applications (based on player performance). Same with 2[C]. Her new auto-combo looks great and should actually add to her stagger pressure a bit. The biggest problem I see with current P4U2 Liz players outside of playing neutral is that they really can't confirm properly. It's something I've been saying for a good while. They can't pick up off of most counterhits or crouch confirms (which is like second nature to me at this point). The players are going to have to get over these two hurdles if they want to prevent that dent in their wallets from growing

Lol, your signature is too high level. Anyways, I'm in for both the tournament and the 5v5v5. I'll rep whoever I need to.

Liz is a really hard character to play properly. I don't know why it's so hard for players to use her, but that's just the way things are at the moment. As Bace pointed out on twitter, "its great to see what happens when every hit isnt doing 4k+ lol." I hate to say it, but a lot of our Liz players got by on her damage off of a random hit or two and nothing else. Now that Liz's burst damage has been normalized, they'll have to adjust to playing her now relevant neutral game. If you couldn't play neutral and control the pace of a match in P4U, it's going to be hard to do so in P4U2 even with the new tools she has.

I'll be putting a lobby up in about an hour. Title will be "Seiryu's Domain" like always. Be warned: I may not be using Liz much. I'll either be using Akihiko or channeling The Holy Thouzer.

I'll have a lobby up for a bit if anyone wants to play. The lobby name is "Seiryu's Domain".

I haven't seen anything that would suggest she's not viable in this version. The biggest issue that we have at the moment is that almost all of the Liz players we've seen footage of can't play her at a high-mid or high level yet, where as there are players for literally every other character that are already playing at a high level. We'll just have to wait until Damosu improves and has more footage or another Liz shows up that can make good use of all of her changes.

I land OD Yukikaze mostly against Kokonoe, other Hakumen, Relius, and Carl. I might land it against a few others, but I don't really recall who exactly. I've landed astral a lot more in this game as well. The increased heat gain really helps a lot.

I've played you before, Shady (though I don't remember who you use). I can also vouch that your connection is playable with most players.

It doesn't matter. Play the player in this case, not the character. If you thought MUs would help you against Colpevole, you're sadly mistaken. I suggest you use as much lag as you possibly can. It's his only real weakness.

But you were at the table when we talked about it (though we were just joking at the time). It ended up becoming a real thing D: Anyways, team DL seems to be semi-ready. Now all you guys need is a captain!

Who's your team captain, guys? You need someone to call the shots. I'd vote for Zealous, as that's probably the best captain you guys could have atm. I'll try and scrounge up some alternatives for your team.

We really do need to hear team suggestions from you guys, though. Team Bace can be Team DL, but I want to let you guys actually play instead of Team Bace just taking over completely. Again, you guys can form a Team DL and then play Team GFaqs. Then, Team Bace will play the winner. This is my suggestion so as to allow as many of you to play as time allows.

So I found out that for jump loops, [2B > 5B (1) > j.B] instead of [5B(2) > j.B] gives you max damage and SP gain. You get about 2-4 more SP per combo depending on how many loops you do and anywhere from 100-400 more damage. The timing isn't hard on this, either. Edit: Before, I said it was about 100-400 more damage. I can't find many routes that add more than 250 damage, so I messed up there.

IIRC, Team Bace was Bace as the captain (not playing, though), with Me, Rath, Diarmuid, Grover, and a secret 5th as the team. I think Omex also said he wouldn't be playing, but I don't remember for sure.

The other good thing about 2B > Enma > OD is that most of the time, your opponent will know that you're capable of confirming into OD from a 2B starter and attempt to burst it. The Kishuu will more often than not go through the burst, allowing you to get a better combo with like 5C > Enma > OD or something. If they don't know or don't think about it...well, you get the 5k+ damage, right? :P

Nothing is set in stone for either side. Team GFaqs is having some issues with players, and we haven't decided on anything on our end (though Team Bace is pretty much set). We aren't even sure if this whole event will still be on Sunday, as Token's job might conflict with all of this. It might end up being in January

Bleh, I wish you had tweeted me or something. I would have went downstairs and played you D: My team lost in Loser's Finals of our pool b/c our execution was a mess. I choked when I was about to OCV the team I didn't show up for BB singles as I was playing in the P4A room instead. We had too many of our top P4A players in that room, I couldn't pass up the chance to play them all weekend :x

There might actually be a third team instead of Team Bace superseding Team Dustloop. It'd go something like: Team GameFaqs vs Team DL > Winner vs Team Bace I'll talk it over with some folks later and see what we're going to do.

Yeah, I'll be there. Going mostly for P4A, but I'm excited for BB as well.

GGs, Mac. You were catching me off guard with a good bit of stuff. We should play again some time after NEC. Also, agito is definitely a nuisance.