Arcade Fire87
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You know, I was actually looking at that tournament and thinking of possibly going, but not sure. Depends, seems like it could be fun, wonder if I'd have my car by then. Who knows
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Yeah, that's why when Tuka said Lambda needs to sit back and zone, I was kinda like, "huh?" I mean, he has hands on experience, it's just so far all the good Lambda's I've seen use quite a bit of melee and take the fight up close Oh, but Tuka, you seriously caught a major thing in my play no one's ever mentioned with the j.C>j.2C. When you said I wasn't doing enough damage with I was confused; then I realized all this time I wasn't getting enough hits with j.C.. For some reason it never occurred to me to hit more with the J.C. Thanks for that, it's already adding 400-500 extra damage that I was missing out on. Did grab>dash>2C. Not hard to do, a little afraid of lag messing it up though, it does 300-400 extra damage
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Hey, Mac, up for some player match games tonight? Gonna try out Tuka's advice and gonna take it easy on the rushing and gonna do more zoning/keep away. I didn't realize till you uploaded those fights, but I seriously need to never 5DD's if you're close enough to do 236.
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Tuka, I know how to do 4000-5000 damage meterless combo's, although I don't feel like I put myself in the oppurtunity as much as I probably could. Hmm, next time Mac and I play I'll experiment and zone just to see if I do better, although it'll probably be really boring. I'll probably play a little less twitchy and see how it results with him And of course I know that matchup is shitty, hence, I lost 1 game out of 22. I'm perfectly aware I could zone more, but I don't want to play that way anymore, I prefer being more high pressured, she has enough tools to do so, and quite well. Nu players like Rereia and even Inoue have crazy rush down games and don't just stick purely to zoning. Of course I'm not anywhere their level, but I think people like them prove she's more than able to rush the hell out of people. I haven't really gone to real tournaments yet (but I really think I could try in CS), so their hasn't been enough incentive to change from rushdown to purely zoning, but there's only a handful of people really giving me a hard time on XBL. And isn't Lambda WAY more rushdown than Nu? Pulsr and even Minori had probably a 50/50 mix with those two. I perfectly know how to play keep away and zoning, that's all I used to do. We'll see, I'm gonna take some of your advice when Mac and I play in player room and see how it goes.
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Yeah, man, you were really showing that 214D in that matchup is nearly useless except maybe for corner pressure. I was really caught up in watching those Minori Lambda vids that I thought it'd be fine on Haku. Ah well, I had to learn, right? Maybe we'll play some games today/tonight, I'll have to mess around a little and experiment
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It's ok, Mac. Haha, it hurts my nerdy gaming pride, but going around and thinking I'm the shit!!! won't help me get better. I don't particuarly LOVE the criticism, but they are right, and the only way I'll get better is if people can view things in an unbiased view so they can tell me what I'm doing wrong and what I need to do better. I think I'm probably gonna drop 214D~C against Haku unless it's full screen, and I'll probably just limit the spike chasers in general and rarely do the ~C version. I'm still trying to get used to doing more 214D's in general I appreciate you just uploading the games, there hasn't been any recent vids of me in months
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- 2C and 2DD as anti-airs for 5000-6500 damage combos. Mac didn't upload the fights of me doing combos in the 5000-6000 damage range
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Anyway, Mac was nice enough to upload a few against me and some Jins, I uploaded them so I don't mind them, they aren't terribly fancy games on my part, but I did pretty well, a lot less mistakes here, though a few whiffed TK's, and a really huge chance for a meaty 3C combo. I think this shows me zoning a lot more, probably because I'm so terrified from being corner trapped by the particular character. Jin and Bang are my worst matchups personally, so if there's things I'm missing here, would definitely help Arcade Fire v. Serpentine http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OSF7GuJOJ4E Arcade Fire v. Leonil http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qWakrzgIMgQ
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Yeah, Tone, I'm really coming to find spike chaser is not too great against Hakumen. I've been trying to get used to just doing it again, to be honest. But there was one where it looked like Mac IAD straight through it and kinda left me like, "huh?" You're definitely right about that one. You're pretty right about my rushdowns, I really do need to be...less predictable? I think I'm rushing from too far away sometimes, so he can easily just counter some of it, I'm sure part of it is definitely prediction too. I'm not 100 percent sure what to do though And yeah, Tuka, I know I should be doing more than grab>5D, I think I'm kinda worried about dropping more than I already do, especially with lag at my college (no lag was present in these games though). Sometimes I do rush the whole j.C too much, usually I squeeze as much I can though BUT, again. You also have to understand Mac and I played 22 games, and these were specifically the one's where I said to myself, "man, I hope these aren't the one's he uploads in our fights!" You were seeing the games that were a lot closer and I was making the most mistakes, there were quite a few games where I rushed Mac all game without getting hit, and there were there shares of perfects too. These were also the games I whiffed TK's the most, I was getting pretty frustrated with myself in some of these matches. Mac is a great Hakumen player so he definitely punished me hard when I did make mistakes And the close up 214D's were also results of failed TK's, I'd never do a 214D that close up purposely. BUT, watching this and your advices' is showing me that spike chaser isn't wise to do in this matchup and probably won't be in CS either, this was something I'd been playing with as of recent. I didn't realize I should do fewer 5D's. I was trying to use them as pokes, or 5DD>236. Hmm, Mac did say Severin mainly used j.2DD's against him, wonder if maybe that's what I should start doing? Like, how would I go about this Tuka? do I just poke with a ton of j.2DD's? I think you're pretty right about that, I'm gonna have to try to implement that more Ooops, and you are also right about me doing things too fast! There were times I could have squeezed 3000/4000 damage moves from 3C's or 2C's/6A's, but IAD so quick that I missed oppurtunities for major damage. I'm wondering how I stop myself from doing this as often though, I'm trying so hard to mess with their heads with the pokes that sometimes I really miss big oppurtunities here. Mac is a really great Hakumen, I'm happy to say I won 21 out of 22 games, considering how awesome is he. I really do need to try to slow things down a little. I dunno If I'll zone more though, that just doesn't fit me anymore.
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Hey, thanks Mac! In the future, feel free to upload whatever I upload on the boards if you actually enjoyed the match enough, you don't need my permission Thanks bud!
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Alright, here's a few of the matchups with Mac Chaos and I. We had about 22 games so this is just some. Heheheh, he didn't necessarily show the vids of me dominating and uploaded the closer fights, but I'm still really grateful to him for uploading recent stuff with me in it. Fair warning, these were some of the games I made the most mistakes in and had the most flaws, judge kindly. Oh, and also, my Nu looks like a hamster strung up from aderol and or speed. I'm a pretty wreckless Nu player, and still kinda learning how to use spike chasers well for in anticipation for Lambda. Was heavily influenced by Reria but not sure if my style reflects that Game 1:Arcade Fire87 v. Mac Chaos http://www.youtube.com/user/mAcularChaotic#p/u/8/z1ln1HmJrmU Game 2:Arcade Fire87 v. Mac Chaos http://www.youtube.com/user/mAcularChaotic#p/u/5/qzTy8lADlSg Game 3:Arcade Fire87 v. Mac Chaos http://www.youtube.com/user/mAcularChaotic#p/u/4/6qS_s58JKmo Game 4:Arcade Fire87 v. Mac Chaos http://www.youtube.com/user/mAcularChaotic#p/u/3/AgqP4bqIw10
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Oh, yeah, Mac, could you put that video on youtube of me and that Jin on the replay boards, that would be awesome! The Pisces v me thing was kinda expected, I'm really annoyed he uploaded it, because the game before that very one I crushed him so bad I didn't even think it was worth uploading. He refused to rematch me afterwards too. Hahaha, if you could repeat what I said on there that'd be awesome, cause I don't have a youtube account!
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Andy, I know you barely know me, but I just wanna say I'm becoming one of the few proud Nu's who likes to rush in!
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Yo, XDest, saw you online last night. Let's play again sometime My roommate is playing WOW all the fucking time, and combined with sharing college internet it could get a little laggy at certain times. Anyway, hopefully we'll play again soon! P.S-You know Herald O Heady's? Well, he used to kinda suck, especially since I used to spar with you so much that every Tao became a joke. Well, anyway, he really got fucking good, he's going almost half and half with me, he was even doing taunt combo strings I don't think I've ever really seen you do, was a nice surprise. You should try sparring with him, he might really surprise you
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Pretty awesome that you'll upload the fights. Just don't upload the super unflattering videos of me messing up all over the place! I don't really have any youtube vids of how I play now (or even vids where I look like I play well at all!) You really surprised me a few nights ago when we played, I know you knew the combo's, but your patience and strategies were good. I noticed you stopped trying to drive when I pulsar'd/cross overe'd or doing combo strings. The only problem I saw was you overused jump in/grabs, so most of them were really easy to tech out of. You were driving too much at first, but you adjusted pretty quickly and only started driving when I rushed in from too far. The whole matchup is one long footsies/poking game when both players know what they're doing in that matchup What did you think of my Nu in general? How does it compare to some of the better Nu's you played, like Severin and DRK Vice? Are we really different, are their things I need to try doing more, etc?
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Yeah, Mac, those games we've played the past few days have been pretty awesome! Last night, that first game we had I was playing like a dumb ass and you made me pay for it :P I'm trying to add more 214D~C for pressure/mixup, it's still a little new in my strategy so I'm still adjusting to it, I think I just need to start learning when and where to use it more often, so for now you caught me off guard with it. I noticed Inoue did it a lot so I wanna try to do it, plus, it's great for pressure, I just need to be more aware of your 5D, sometimes it just BARELY tagged me so that's also something I gotta adjust to. Also, it's gonna be pretty critical with Lambda so I'm trying to get used to it now in preparation for Lambda
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Alright. Well, last night, Mac and I played a shitload of games, 20 games of 3 rounds, with great connection since we live relatively close. I have to say, Mac was a LOT better than I expected and remembered him to be, and definitely one of the best Hakumen's online. He has the matchup figured out pretty well, I couldn't get a single 5DD>4DD>TK on him once. He was also one of the first opponents I've ever had that didn't fall for a single TK feint>grab combo. Hell, he managed to get out of a lot of 2B>dash>grab. He and I were having moments where we were grabbing and teching multiple times within seconds But I was right about mixing it up with more j.2DD. You should try boxing your opponents in the corner more in general, Mac was under a lot of pressure with that. He had me wondering if I needed to change up some things, but that might be me being very wreckless and predictable. He was nailing me with a lot of 3C's, but it's a double edged sword, he ate damage when blocked. Hopefully he uploads some of the fights. There's a few really unflattering fights in those 20 games where I was messing up TK's right and left and getting frustrated with myself, resulting in more mess ups. I kept more of the pressure on him and stayed close unless I was down in health, then I ran like a bitch
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Alright, I watched three of them. Hm, it's not that you have tons of flaws, it's more that you're just missing a lot of things and not utilizing Nu's tools enough to really bring things out of her. For one. You need to seriously mix up D strings. I saw you do some TK wheels, so you got that set. You need to start doing 5DD>4DD>TK wheel. That hits like crazy retarted on people. You also never did 5DD>236. This is such an incredibly useful tool, especially when you have some RC. Once you start doing: 5DD>4DD>236 5DD>236 5DD>4DD>TK wheel and 5DD>4DD>TK feint>move of your choice I also personally love doing some 5DD>4DD>TK feint>5DD/6DD string again Start implementing these. You've now seriously become a mindfuck. Your opponents can no longer be like, "block high, high, low!" You now have them snapped out of auto pilot. It's frustrating, because not a single Nu on XBL has taken this piece of advice that I've give to them. I guarantee just doing this more will win you 10 percent more of your games. Also, you're sorta in the mindset I was a while ago, "I don't need j.2DD~C>j.2DD". Actually, this is really critical, and with Lambda's nerfed drive, you're gonna seriously need to start doing this more, Minori abuses the fuck out of it. Go to training, and don't leave it until you have your j.2DD's set perfectly If you can mix it up with j.2Ds, you now have options to do: j.2dd~C>j.2dd>236D j.2dd~C>j.2dd>dash>2C>pressure string of your choice j.2dd~C>j.2dd>3C>4500 meterless damage combo j.2dd~C>j.2dd>5DD>combo pressure of your choice j.2dd~C>j.2dd>6DD (For the one's wising up to your mixups) Hmmm, also if you're ever pinned in the corner like that, do NOT do 3C, that shit will get you kicked in the face at times if they block up close while your backed into a corner, use a 2B>2C or some sort of string that will be able to get you out of that corner from pulsar. Also, trying doing more 2C's>Back dash>j.2DD combo pressure/mixup stuff. Hmmm. What else? Oh! Rush up with some 6A's! 6A>2C/TK wheel 6A>2C/3C I liked that you did the oki TK wheel. Try doing some more of that (sometimes gets me in trouble too, of course). Ummm, rushing with an oki TK feint into 2C gets nets me some CH's too. Or ya could try oki TK feint>3C>big ass meterless combo Oh! Mix in tons of oki grab ups in your pressure. Try doing more 2B's while they're laying down, if they roll forward or don't tech you can hit them with 2B>j.C>j.2C>236 or extent it with RC>6C>j.DD>j.236 And just advice against Haku, don't even bother doing 236236 unless hit confirmed with 5DD first, it's such a waste on him. Also, I wouldn't really follow up with the pulsars against him, just back off. Smart one's will counter you, it's really not worth it, keep the pulsar>3C/2C/6C to a minimum against Hakumen players. I wish youtube didn't have videos of me playing terribly, I didn't use any of the advice I gave you at the time I played with those videos up. Changed my entire playing and mixup pressure it, for the better too
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Litchi's attacks are also fairly slow, and some of them are real punishable if she continues certain combo's without hit comfirming. You have to be kinda careful while she has the staff, but when she doesn't go nuts on the oki game, she has no DP. I dunno, I personally do a lot of air grabs, doesn't mean sometimes you won't just get straight kicked in the face with a combo though
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No, we'll definitely see less Lambda's. I think at first she won't be too rare, but a lot of people reliant on her cheaper tactics will move on to someone else. She's not hard to play, but now there's a lot of thought that's required to play well with her Truthfully, I believe quite a few current Nu players will move onto Hakumen and Ragna. Those two are now high tier and easy to play as, so there's more reward. Beyond a technical level, Lambda doesn't look all that easy to play as now. She'll most likely be one of the rarer characters to see online. I feel like I have seen a lot less pro players use Lambda too
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Minori is the Black Lambda, I believe. I watched Rereia v a Carl player and cringed, it must have just been an unflattering video of him I do 21478 for TKs, can do it consisitently if there's minimum lag
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Good to know Keir. I imagine all of us will feel like she's stiff and odd to play, seeing as how vital 5DD>4DD>jump cancel was. I imagine you can do some mind tricks using 5DD>spike chaser>5DD>236C (expecting chaser and jumps to avoid it). Seems like TK feints have now become more vital than ever after watching Minori's Lambda fights (who in my opinion looks like the best Lambda right now). I gotta agree though, I think Lambda will be one of the least played characters in CS, which means less scrubs giving the few good players a bad rap for that character. She doesn't seem hard to play on a technical level, but it looks like she requires a shitload of strategy and forethought now, compared to online Nu's who could do 5DDDDDDDD over and over again and get far
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Yeah, but then that leaves them for no barrier burst when you get another combo off, so you breaking their guard can force them into bursting, which helps for later. So, in that aspect, it's useful. But...it seems pointless. I haven't really seen any vids where she broke barrier guards
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Nah, not offended, Japanese tournament players are ages better than net players like me. I did watch the video this time, the player used it three times in a row, but that was pretty much the extent of it. To be honest, even though they're probably players way superior to most of the Nu's and Hakumen's here, it was a really unimpressive fight by both players and I've seen way better playing online :8/: Gravity in a matchup like that is good, and you're right, there's a reason it has a meter now in CS, I never said it wasn't overpowered, I just said it's simply not spammed and used a lot. The figh is known to be pretty unfair for other reasons though, not purely from just zoning and putting down gravity every other sword Besides, can't Hakumen Shippu past gravities and punish Nu real hard at closer distances?
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I couldn't watch all that, was too bored. Still, it's not really something you see spammed against in that fight too often (not from my experience of watching or playing, anyway)
