stunedge Posted December 14, 2008 Posted December 14, 2008 Left side > right side chipp isnt bad in AC
reaVer Posted December 14, 2008 Posted December 14, 2008 No, anything on the same tier grade are considered equal. So Chipp would be equally strong as Potemkin.
HolyOrderChipp Posted December 14, 2008 Posted December 14, 2008 That list looks fucked up. First off, why is Testament below Eddie? Not saying that it shouldn't be, but Testament and Eddie seemed to be uncontested top two forever. Second, is Jam really that high? Thirdly, I thought Potemkin was top 4... Whatever. Also, isn't Axl pretty damn good? That list is just weird in general. And not as amusing as Flashmetroid's.
stunedge Posted December 15, 2008 Posted December 15, 2008 >#1335 same tier => considered equal implies we need 23 tiers for this game since no two characters are the same this is just about the style ppl make the tier list in this case, leftside > rightside, thats it >#1336 1. ED:TE is 6:4 now according to Ogawa's opinion 2. Yes, Jam is really good 3. Axl has couple bad matchups, SL MI JA
Silmerion Posted December 15, 2008 Posted December 15, 2008 same tier => considered equal implies we need 23 tiers for this game since no two characters are the sameNot true; it merely implies that the relative values of the advantages and disadvantages each character has are too close to order properly within tiers. Axl-Slayer is at least 4.5:5.5, which isn't THAT bad. He has a much harder time with Venom, I believe.
Hintalove Posted December 16, 2008 Posted December 16, 2008 Ogawa, didn't that fool lose to Maruken in sbo? Why aren't we using Maruken's opinion to formulate tier lists???
AtTheGates Posted December 17, 2008 Posted December 17, 2008 Which doesn't explain why Chipp is in the same tier as Potemkin. he's an eddie player, eddie players are scared of chipp. beast getting a shuriken headshot, chipp teleporting all over the place. no, seriously, i'm surprised why nowadays anyone would think chipp is better than D tier together with all the other low tier chars. i'd also like to see the original source of that list. not that i'm suspicious of anything.
bbq sauce Posted December 17, 2008 Posted December 17, 2008 So in other words its SS+ ED S TE JA SL A MI MA BA B PO AB CH SO VE RO OS C AX AN DI FA KY IN ZA BR D JO How does Axl get that Low? lolpuns aside, it seems he should be at least in the same tier as Robo/HOS
Zerite Posted December 17, 2008 Posted December 17, 2008 johnnys better than bridget >:L Ogawa thinks not.
Adelheid Posted December 17, 2008 Posted December 17, 2008 johnnys better than bridget >:L Did Johnny get a 9-win streak going this 23on23?
bbq sauce Posted December 17, 2008 Posted December 17, 2008 Did Johnny get a 9-win streak going this 23on23? What one really good player does with a character can't really speak in tiers. Otherwise Kuroda woulda bumped Q to at least mid-tier in 3S years ago.
Tsak Posted December 17, 2008 Posted December 17, 2008 i think ogawa put chipp up there high cuz the japanese cant block chipp i mean damn you guys ever see samitto vids?
stunedge Posted December 18, 2008 Posted December 18, 2008 >#1338 >>Axl-Slayer is at least 4.5:5.5, which isn't THAT bad. He has a much harder time with Venom, I believe. 4:6 or even worse, u can goto axl thread@GGXXBBS to argue this Venom is bad, as well as Chipp Millia Jam I serious dont get how ppl always complaining Chipp is bad in AC, which he isnt
Koichi>All Posted December 18, 2008 Posted December 18, 2008 sol an chipp as good as potemkin :\ it's like impossible to believe in this, but well, it's only ogawa's opinion.
CrimsonDisaster Posted December 18, 2008 Posted December 18, 2008 Ogawa, didn't that fool lose to Maruken in sbo? Why aren't we using Maruken's opinion to formulate tier lists??? If Maruken posted a list, I'm sure someone on this site would stake their life by it.
reaVer Posted December 19, 2008 Posted December 19, 2008 I'm somewhat surprised that some people here are indirectly stating that Ogawa is (partially) clueless.
Adelheid Posted December 19, 2008 Posted December 19, 2008 In all fairness Ogawa hasn't exactly been relevant news in quite awhile. Though on the other hand he's still way better than most/all of the people here. But on the other other hand that still doesn't make his opinion flawless.
reaVer Posted December 19, 2008 Posted December 19, 2008 From what I've seen, the top level players in Japan have only marginal differences to eachother. It's not like you can say one of those players is waaay better than the other, but some times one player has a slight advantage over the others; sometimes a little more refinement, more originality, etc... So it can be that Ogawa isn't the best in Japan right now, but he's still up there. Of course you don't have to take what he says for granted, but since he's unable to actually defend his opinion over here it might actually be an idea to look for what reasons he made the tierlist like that instead of attempting to discard it.
M.Song Posted December 20, 2008 Posted December 20, 2008 Why haven't robots killed/enslaved all humans and taken over the world yet? I'm sure the world would be a better place with robots in charge rather than fleshy humans.
HolyOrderChipp Posted December 20, 2008 Posted December 20, 2008 Oh no... Not Robo-Ky's presidential campaign again... On the topic of tier lists, I find Ogawa's list pretty weird, because, well, Potemkin is down there with Sol and Chipp... And, of course Ogawa puts Eddie at #1...
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