[CP] Rachel Alucard Gameplay Discussion

[TD]

that combo looks pretty hard to do... if not character specific

[kirbster]

Wow with SMP on 3c we can't even get a knockdown for oki

While they added meterless comboability to Nu's 3c on normal hit... go figure

[gli]

Nu gets a dp right? I guess we are stuck with wind tech and 2C lol

[Sakaku]

Wow with SMP on 3c we can't even get a knockdown for oki

While they added meterless comboability to Nu's 3c on normal hit... go figure

We should be able to do BBL > 4B > frog as long as BBL fully hits. But uh, when exactly can they tech after 4B ground bounce? And have they adjusted BBLs hitbox so it hits 6 times on all characters?

And Nu obviously was too weak compared to Rachel's zoning, that DP totally makes up for it.

[GaoGaoGao]

You have enough time to get a 3C after a 4B bounce midscreen. Ive seen it a couple times. I think we will just have to save 3C for the end of our combos now. I think we could probably do 6A, 236A, 6A, 4B, 3C into pumpkin/frog + lotus oki.

[tofurr]

We should be able to do BBL > 4B > frog as long as BBL fully hits. But uh, when exactly can they tech after 4B ground bounce? And have they adjusted BBLs hitbox so it hits 6 times on all characters?

And Nu obviously was too weak compared to Rachel's zoning, that DP totally makes up for it.

Here's someone doing 3C, BBL, frog, 4b and it not working. It looks like George should have activated when the opponent hit the ground and bounced up, but I think while George is in the middle of turning around he can't activate? For this one, someone does the same thing but does a dash before the 4b, but whiffs it. Japan's trying to figure it out. :P Edited November 30, 2012 by tofurr

[TD]

l have the funds and the time to go to NEC today... but i'm not going. the grinch stole my holiday spirit. kirbster don't let us down man, you got this.

[Yaaay]

Here's someone doing 3C, BBL, frog, 4b and it not working. It looks like George should have activated when the opponent hit the ground and bounced up, but I think while George is in the middle of turning around he can't activate? For this one, someone does the same thing but does a dash before the 4b, but whiffs it. Japan's trying to figure it out. :P

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K1nT9MIgOao#t=29m9s

4B > Lobelia > Frog seemed to work here but he didn't finish it with 3c for some reason. don't mind the last part.

Edited December 1, 2012 by Yaaay

[Rele]

3C has SMP, they can tech immediately.

[Juraya]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=MxaU1baquHo#t=257s

Hey guys,

I have a little question regarding her 3C. As mentioned before it has SMP, but in the video above Rachel seems to use it twice in the combo.

Do I misunderstand something about SMP or is the info false?

Thanks in advance

[GaoGaoGao]

Was it on Hakumen around 4:15ish? The SMP message popped up, I think the Hakumen player just teched late.

On a side note, the Azrael matchup might be annoying. His DP absorbs projectiles, which means frog, pumpkin, lotus, 5B and 2B. It seems like he gets a fireball per hit, so our frog gives him 6 fireballs...lol.

[samthegreat]

From what I've seen, she doesn't seem to have much trouble. Top Rachel players atm average about 95% win against Azrael, but I guess it doesnt help that he's still new. DPing Rachel's shit isn't exactly as easy as it sounds.

[TD]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=MxaU1baquHo#t=257s Hey guys, I have a little question regarding her 3C. As mentioned before it has SMP, but in the video above Rachel seems to use it twice in the combo. Do I misunderstand something about SMP or is the info false? Thanks in advance

the hakumen player delayed his tech. he definitely flashed blue before he hit the ground, meaning he could tech beforehand. he's probably used to another version of bb. or new at the game.

[kirbster]

I barely made it out of pools, top 8 in losers! Sooooo many fucking killers in this tournament it's insane. Gonna be playing tomorrow at around noon on St1ckbug's stream

[samthegreat]

I'm still proud of you ;_;

[TD]

good you made it. who's in top 8 with you?

[samthegreat]

All 3 Japanese players, huey... not sure about the rest.

I'm sending positive Rachenergy all the way from MTL!!

[TD]

what is this, dbz.... owait

[gli]

kirbster! How was Souji? Souji powah too strong?

Hmm... 3C frog in BBCP seems to not be roll tech safe. One Rachel tried 2A after frog and they just roll past her. 3C frog 3C might work? Might be too slow to come out in time.

Also, 5B is still projectile www

Against Azrael it's a liability versus his Game and Watch move.

Edited December 3, 2012 by glirandly

[kotokot]

kirbster dont drop that combos!:< you could won, but top 8 is fine too i guess.

and confirm that rachel still have real sovietrachel damage:

凛ちゃん ‏@Lin_hime

ふむ。5B始動8200、JB始動7500、JC始動7600、蛙始動7000、蛙>5B>6B~から7600、アイリス始動6500、3C始動忘れた…。そこそこ火力は出たけど状況がなかなかないのでやっぱり6000前後が妥当。実践では大体6000手前ぐらいは出来るようになった♪

frog proration looks better than before with this, iris worse.

Edited December 3, 2012 by kotokot

[samthegreat]

Nice! So hype about BBCP Rachel

[TD]

is it saying we can get up to 8200 damage from 5b and similar damage from her other starters? this needs to be seen.

[samthegreat]

5B starter 8200, j.B starter 7500, j.C starter 7600, frog starter 7000, 7600 from frog>5B>6B, Iris starter 6500, forgot to test 3C starter.

About the rest, I'm really not sure what he meant.

I assume they all use Overdrive, but I might be wrong.

[hakimiru]

For the rest of it, they're saying that each of the cases mentioned do pretty good damage but have conditional requirements that won't happen too often, so around 6000 is probably right. They're also now able to get just under 6000 in actual matches now.

[gli]

That sounds good. What are these requirements? Corner?