Litherain-XIII Posted December 3, 2012 Posted December 3, 2012 Yeah the video was about a few day ago but i just saw them this morning so im late to seeing them.
Chaoschao222 Posted December 3, 2012 Posted December 3, 2012 Also on a side note, why does it strike me strangely when i seen this happen on the CH 5C hit it looked as if makoto kinda had that one imo especially how she came at a steep angle but noel just hit her out of it entirely with 5C even with makoto pretty much ontop of her head... any comments on this? http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=Dq8MTJ4YZls#t=2171s Are you just referring to 5C's vertical hitbox? Because it certainly comes out before Lightning Arrow was active.
Litherain-XIII Posted December 3, 2012 Posted December 3, 2012 I thought the same thing after a while but just wanted a second opinion on it to be sure.
Ichipoo Posted December 5, 2012 Posted December 5, 2012 Yo we can now do FC j.4D > stuff > 214A now. Wonder if we can do the same off of FC 4D or any CH Drive.
LunaKage Posted December 5, 2012 Posted December 5, 2012 4D launches now so no. Though we should be able to combo into it on a standing opponent same as before.
confusedxphreak Posted December 5, 2012 Posted December 5, 2012 (edited) ^Luna: Ichipoo said j.4D. lol. I misread it the first time too. Watch the new combo video that Ichipoo posted in the video thread to see it. Also, I had no idea that Noel's OD changed her DD. @.@ Edited December 5, 2012 by confusedxphreak
Litherain-XIII Posted December 5, 2012 Posted December 5, 2012 Its not like j.4D change a whole lot or anything...
confusedxphreak Posted December 5, 2012 Posted December 5, 2012 It doesn't look like j.4D changed much to make it a more viable tool, but at least now we know there are damaging combo options for Noel now off a FC.
Litherain-XIII Posted December 5, 2012 Posted December 5, 2012 Well to be honest i figured she always did even in CP :O
LunaKage Posted December 5, 2012 Posted December 5, 2012 ^Luna: Ichipoo said j.4D. lol. I misread it the first time too. Watch the new combo video that Ichipoo posted in the video thread to see it. Also, I had no idea that Noel's OD changed her DD. @.@ Wonder if we can do the same off of FC 4D or any CH Drive. FC 4D =/= j.4D And yeah, first time I saw OD Fenrir I was all ":ooooooo Niggas" Overall the combo video made me extremely hype, I was really curious as to what Noel could do with OD, now all I need is to see some Crush Trigger in action, also more Chamber shot used mid corner combo.
Setsuna Posted December 5, 2012 Posted December 5, 2012 Her OD for Thor must be different as well I'm sure, probably something alittle similar to the unlimited version like Fenrir was Slowly getting more hyped and hyped about CP Noel as the JPs continue to break her in
Chaoschao222 Posted December 5, 2012 Posted December 5, 2012 OD Fenrir's nothing like Unlimited Fenrir ever was, however. U. Fenrir in all version has just been shooting the missile/crossbow three times, whereas this adds more ballistic shots to it.
Setsuna Posted December 5, 2012 Posted December 5, 2012 OD Fenrir's nothing like Unlimited Fenrir ever was, however. U. Fenrir in all version has just been shooting the missile/crossbow three times, whereas this adds more ballistic shots to it. Thats what I was referring to with the multiple shots, I did say alittle similar not exactly the same
Chaoschao222 Posted December 5, 2012 Posted December 5, 2012 And then I said they're nothing alike... but whatever, that much is irrelevant. Would still be interesting to see if OD Thor changed, but for some reason I'm doubtful...
Ichipoo Posted December 6, 2012 Posted December 6, 2012 I wonder if it's possible to perform 6A > 5B > sj.C > j.D > stuff, because if it is, then her pseudo OS will be seeing more use from me.
confusedxphreak Posted December 7, 2012 Posted December 7, 2012 (edited) This new Gamechariot video makes random drives look like the shiz: http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm19523860 Main question: Why are these players respecting Noel's drives so much and not punishing her? @.@ I'm assuming all the other players don't play against Noel often. Seems like we can follow up 6D/d.6D>Bloom Trigger with 5B>5C>stuffs in the corner. Edited December 7, 2012 by confusedxphreak
Demon Wind Bomb Posted December 7, 2012 Posted December 7, 2012 (edited) I'm gonna assume that they haven't gotten used to punishing Noel's drive yet. I remember hearing that Noel's drive follow ups got more invincibility. Do we have any good players representing Noel in CP? Edited December 7, 2012 by Demon Wind Bomb
Crimsonflash27 Posted December 7, 2012 Posted December 7, 2012 (edited) Bullet Dance II Preview http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U3MpngqE4aU&feature=plcp (Courtesy of Kurushii) Edited December 7, 2012 by Crimsonflash27
Litherain-XIII Posted December 7, 2012 Posted December 7, 2012 Well if you guys remember a post i made a page or 2 back there was a video of makoto trying to punish noels drives on point after 5D was blocked going into a d.6B overhead. Makoto attempted twice to punish this string at the d.6B part with a dp and both separate ocassions failed with both moves clashing only with makoto still being in the air with a failed dp and noel recovered with enough time to punish her with a CH 6C > 214A > big damage on makoto's landing frames. That alone should make anyone not wanna attempt to punish it in general instead of allowing her to get free 3-4k damage off of trying to disrespect her drive follow ups. thats probably a reason why some choose to block it instead and gives noel a better viability to be able to use drive pressure/mix-ups.
LunaKage Posted December 7, 2012 Posted December 7, 2012 Maybe they madee drive followups more viable as a pressure tool, with more punish-baiting capabilities and higher priority, maybe more disjointed hitboxes, since Ive seen a lot of Noels space drive presdure in vids and get counter hits. This may have been done along with weakening invuln on drive starters to make Noel more offensive oriented. Hard to say for surr though.
Litherain-XIII Posted December 7, 2012 Posted December 7, 2012 Yeah i'd say they did increase priority on some drives and gave a few some inv frames most notably Spring Raid and d.4D as the primary drive moves that seem to have inv frames since d.4D stopped valks Sturn wolf DD with it and the fact that spring raid has been nailing CHs for noel way more often than in the past even in scenarios that she would normally get hit or atleast trade in. The d.6B im not sure if its inv frames or just priority in general since it "clashes" with makotos dp which i figured would just go through it instead of clashing if it had inv. Hard to say but im gonna be hitting up on her jbb site to see if they have some new stuff regarding properties. Also it is possible to follow up midscreen after Chamber Shot on RC with 5B or 5C as shown in a recent video they both seems to net up to about 2.8K Another side note OD seems to return 2D back to its old self (just incase if anyinw didnt know for whatever reason)
LunaKage Posted December 7, 2012 Posted December 7, 2012 Not sure if that would be worth it since we could probably get more off of stuff > 2C > 66A > stuff Also, Im willing to bet we can combo off of spring raid if we hit fatal 4D. We probably just have to use the right confirm.
Litherain-XIII Posted December 7, 2012 Posted December 7, 2012 Not sure but so far it seems to be decent since she once attempted 236C on a normal block from ragna and he whiffed a 5B as a response trying to punish it and it looked like noel recovered just in time to block afterwards in general. this wasnt off of IB however so im kinda sure it could be punished on IB but both normal and barrier looked safe as far as ive seen
LunaKage Posted December 7, 2012 Posted December 7, 2012 It pushes her really far back on barrier as well. If I had to take a guess, Id say either -4 or -6.
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