Lord Pwnge18 Posted January 1, 2013 Posted January 1, 2013 800 isn't low. Tsubaki super min damage is 480. No, that's definitely low enough to warrant not even bothering. 480 is just destitute. Also, pretty sure Omohi's min damage is 600, not 800.
IxisNaugus Posted January 1, 2013 Posted January 1, 2013 (edited) 6a: CH floats less, j2C will no longer connect. 5b: lower hitbox is gone 2b: hurtbox lasts past hitbox being gone 6b: second hit forces crouch, special cancel gone, 6b> 6c connects, recovery increased. 5c: hurtbox comes out faster 2c: hurtbox comes out faster head invincibility is removed CH untechable time is reduced. floats higher, so j2C connects 6c: hitbox is smaller? JC: hurtbox comes out faster, jump cancel on block J2C: FC removed, forces crouch, untech time reduced CA: changed to 5b The bolded are the changes I 'm feeling a bit down about, although I suppose the whole hurtboxes coming out earlier thing might not be as bad as I'm thinking. It could be very minor. I've had shit like this: happen to me on more than one occasion, so our hurtboxes being more... exposed kind of scares me a bit. No prizes for guessing who got counter-hit in that picture :P 6A floating less on CH is fair enough I feel. That move was really easy to confirm. 5B was already too good. It didn't need a lower hitbox. 6B is looking much better. A lot more reward off a confirm, but only if we net both hits. Interesting. I have my doubts about 6C's hitbox being smaller. I could just be seeing things, but from what I've witnessed the hitbox looks intact. J2C I think we can deal with. That forced crouch is pretty nice, it'll especially make the move worth using midscreen Edited January 1, 2013 by IxisNaugus
C0R Posted January 2, 2013 Author Posted January 2, 2013 The bolded are the changes I 'm feeling a bit down about, although I suppose the whole hurtboxes coming out earlier thing might not be as bad as I'm thinking. It could be very minor. I've had shit like this: happen to me on more than one occasion, so our hurtboxes being more... exposed kind of scares me a bit. No prizes for guessing who got counter-hit in that picture :P 6A floating less on CH is fair enough I feel. That move was really easy to confirm. 5B was already too good. It didn't need a lower hitbox. 6B is looking much better. A lot more reward off a confirm, but only if we net both hits. Interesting. I have my doubts about 6C's hitbox being smaller. I could just be seeing things, but from what I've witnessed the hitbox looks intact. J2C I think we can deal with. That forced crouch is pretty nice, it'll especially make the move worth using midscreen Always been there. 6a floats less universally, it won't combo into j.2c period, it's less of a CH change and more of an overall move re-purpose. This likely means that 6a :6c will only barely work. 6c's hitbox is wider and shorter. The old high 6c stuff doesn't work anymore, which is likely the reason most Japanese say it's smaller. All in all, early extended hitboxes are fair. It's something every character with fast long pokes had to deal with, except for µ. Now she's playing the same neutral game as the rest of the cast.
IxisNaugus Posted January 2, 2013 Posted January 2, 2013 6a floats less universally, it won't combo into j.2c period, it's less of a CH change and more of an overall move re-purpose. This likely means that 6a :6c will only barely work. 6c's hitbox is wider and shorter. The old high 6c stuff doesn't work anymore, which is likely the reason most Japanese say it's smaller. All in all, early extended hitboxes are fair. It's something every character with fast long pokes had to deal with, except for µ. Now she's playing the same neutral game as the rest of the cast. Thanks for the insight C0R, those changes make a lot more sense now. So it looks like the length of 6C's hitbox has been retained, but the height is speculated to be shorter? And what kind of practical combo sequences do you think will be possible with midscreen CH 6A and CH 2C?
C0R Posted January 2, 2013 Author Posted January 2, 2013 Thanks for the insight C0R, those changes make a lot more sense now. So it looks like the length of 6C's hitbox has been retained, but the height is speculated to be shorter? And what kind of practical combo sequences do you think will be possible with midscreen CH 6A and CH 2C? To be exact, the minimum range of 6c is closer, so it'll hit nearby opponents better than it did, whereas it lost the top and the tip. The new 6a Ch combo, for now, will likely be a modified version of the current one. I've already speculated a couple new combo routes midscreen, but I can't test them until I have the game. 2c Ch starter will likely be something like 2c CH 2[D] SoD~ 66 }{otg 5c 6c 214[d~] 66~6b 66~5c 623c (stick) 66~5c 6c 5d j.2c
Tecta1Eastside Posted January 2, 2013 Posted January 2, 2013 http://youtu.be/xLhqW5xmh0A?t=15m29s one of my favorite u-12 sisters is back again and i still dont know his/her name:( this will be the 1st vid i'll go through Thanks for answering that question C0r. im starting to update the mu-12 video thread. expect to see some new videos in there in the next hr
Tecta1Eastside Posted January 2, 2013 Posted January 2, 2013 (edited) I pretty much got the video thread up to date again. sadly there's some stack event and I dont know how many parts its gonna have so I'll get it 2morrow aka sometime today when the sun is out and its not black outside my window. 2am Est I'm Pro even when its black outside lol http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJ-d_IPCXik edit:there is 8 parts and oboron is too funny too much u-12 fooatage:( and i cant sleep cuz i oversleep due from being sick and taking medicine Edited January 2, 2013 by Tecta1Eastside
Tecta1Eastside Posted January 2, 2013 Posted January 2, 2013 " I quit blazblue" ?? yep. I'm only doing 1vs1 and 3 man rooms at request now until cp. maybe the occasionally team battle maybe. I'll still do those u-12 mirrors with you but I'd rather do 3 man room so I can see how you play each MU aka match-up. got sick so i couldnt do them with you and I gotta add another at least 10 matches to the video thread again. I wanna focus on TTT2 and maybe buy SFxTK to keep myself busy as far as fighters go atm
Nemesis Posted January 2, 2013 Posted January 2, 2013 no worries -- we'll get the games in when your really feeling it -- no need to fight me when you dont have a resonance for the game anymore -- pointless battles if your not @ 100%
Tecta1Eastside Posted January 2, 2013 Posted January 2, 2013 I can play you now easily. I'm fine now but I just need to know what's your main objective in these mirror matches with me? I know we can take notes from each other but at some point I also gotta add one more person in the room who knows the u-12 match-up so we can watch other u-12 play. We can watch and talk about the pros and cons that we do. maybe other stuff like oki set-ups, mix-ups, mind games, gimmicks, etc we can share.
Lord Pwnge18 Posted January 2, 2013 Posted January 2, 2013 yep. I'm only doing 1vs1 and 3 man rooms at request now until cp. maybe the occasionally team battle maybe. I'll still do those u-12 mirrors with you but I'd rather do 3 man room so I can see how you play each MU aka match-up. Wait, how does that equate to "quitting"? That's like, exactly what I do now
mAc Chaos Posted January 2, 2013 Posted January 2, 2013 I can play you now easily. I'm fine now but I just need to know what's your main objective in these mirror matches with me? I know we can take notes from each other but at some point I also gotta add one more person in the room who knows the u-12 match-up so we can watch other u-12 play. We can watch and talk about the pros and cons that we do. maybe other stuff like oki set-ups, mix-ups, mind games, gimmicks, etc we can share.
psycofang2 Posted January 2, 2013 Posted January 2, 2013 i never noticed how he ground his feet into the ground for footing. thats manly.
Mucky Posted January 2, 2013 Posted January 2, 2013 why is his hair blowing in the wind while he holds his sword up but not while striking a pose? nigga can control the weather
mAc Chaos Posted January 2, 2013 Posted January 2, 2013 Not to mention holding that huge ass sword with just one hand.
C0R Posted January 2, 2013 Author Posted January 2, 2013 Nope, she's just an emo. Is your location a reference to Phyrexia?
Yazumatto Posted January 2, 2013 Posted January 2, 2013 (edited) I remember seeing someone last weekend at a MTG PTQ in Philly with a Murakumo mat. I forgot who was on it but I was surprised that another person on Earth had similar interests as me. Maybe I should get a Blazblue mat. ...I'll stop derailing the thread now. Carry on. :x Edited January 2, 2013 by Yazumatto
mAc Chaos Posted January 3, 2013 Posted January 3, 2013 Is your location a reference to Phyrexia? Yup.
C0R Posted January 3, 2013 Author Posted January 3, 2013 (edited) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QkCsSL7G47A&feature=player_detailpage#t=2378s Edited January 3, 2013 by C0R
bakahyl Posted January 3, 2013 Posted January 3, 2013 (edited) Another thing that i like in cp is that the midscreen dp rapid combo is back. edit: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QkCsSL7G47A&feature=player_detailpage#t=3229s Mu's new counter assault with 5b does not whiff on a crouching bang. Not sure if 5b has actually a better hitbox now or that bang was always that large later edit: so the info that 5b's lower hitbox has been removed seems wrong Edited January 3, 2013 by bakahyl
C0R Posted January 3, 2013 Author Posted January 3, 2013 Another thing that i like in cp is that the midscreen dp rapid combo is back. edit: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QkCsSL7G47A&feature=player_detailpage#t=3229s Mu's new counter assault with 5b does not whiff on a crouching bang. Not sure if 5b has actually a better hitbox now or that bang was always that large later edit: so the info that 5b's lower hitbox has been removed seems wrong Which DP RC combo do you mean? We haven't exactly lost any.
pochp Posted January 3, 2013 Posted January 3, 2013 Another thing that i like in cp is that the midscreen dp rapid combo is back. edit: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QkCsSL7G47A&feature=player_detailpage#t=3229s Mu's new counter assault with 5b does not whiff on a crouching bang. Not sure if 5b has actually a better hitbox now or that bang was always that large later edit: so the info that 5b's lower hitbox has been removed seems wrong Even though 5b and CA have the same animation, they might not have the same hitboxes, this would be awesome.
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